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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Grindcore (Micro/Small Stakes)

great start for the week, insta watching

Cant wait to watch this!

Sick, I had two threads of mine put in videos in two days

Got an exam in an hour or so but when I'm done I'm going to watch this ASAP. Really looking forward to your series GC.

Welcome back Bart

thanks for another grindcore series, I love it

one point of feedback: when making a movie it might be good to shut down the sounds, all those bleeps and beeps are pretty distracting from the video.

can't wait for episode 2

nice to have you back!

good video so far, but one big complaint:
can you please turn off the sounds while making a video?
it's soooo annoying to hear all those different sounds, especially those beeps every time you do have to act.
and while running 4 tables there is always some noise in the background and you aren't talking really loud so the sounds are sometimes louder than you are.

When u do the pokerstove in the end of the video, you only have th e flop typed in as "board" in pokerstove, and not the turn. I guess you are in worse spot vs that range on turn card, not have the time to do the pokerstove right now.

nice to have you back!

good video so far, but one big complaint:
can you please turn off the sounds while making a video?
it's soooo annoying to hear all those different sounds, especially those beeps every time you do have to act.
and while running 4 tables there is always some noise in the background and you aren't talking really loud so the sounds are sometimes louder than you are.

+1 to sound off its a bit anoying haha

I really wanted to see some spots where the villains calls down. They always raise cbets or folds and that makes the decision much more easy. My biggest leak is at the river, never know when to bet or just ck/behind in position. or when to ck/call, ck/fold, bet, ck/raise OOP (mostly with air, with the nuts I know what to do aha). But ok, I know that's not in your hand what they do.
Nice ep.

snap watch, what a way to start the day, looking forward to this series and i dont know what its about yet.

will trade sc2 coaching for poker coaching ^^

I JUST CAME

Seriously, my keyboard needs cleaning now, thanks 'a lot' man......

Time Link to 00:06:30

this is minor but I like your robot examples. Since this in NL shouldn't we be flexing our bets and bluffing this random bot with like min bets and betting really large for value?

I enjoyed watching this video. Thanks man!

Saw you typing in those .25 bets and wanted to let you know that there is a much easier way which is already built-in to the FTP client.

In the FTP lobby go to Options/Bet Slider Options.../Mouse Click Action + Mouse Wheel Action

Here you can set to increase bet amount by big blind or small blind. Makes opening .5x amounts a lot easier. It also helps sizing post-flop bets a lot more accurately.

Time Link to 00:48:51

Here on bottom right. What if he's betting ? Why are we calling the turn with the read that he bets middle pair (like TT on Khigh board) ? With that read we could think that he is betting TT-88 , Kx, Qx or TJ. And if he's betting 88-TT isn't it better to bluff river?

Wahay, I featured in a video and didn't make an ass of myself! Great success!

Time Link to 00:27:46

Hi Grindcore! It's good to have a new series of yours.

Why do you want to c/r the flop on top left? If you get 3bet you're probably in tought decision. Do you think you can be called by pocket 7's here? Don't you think donking is better? Would you consider donking headsup?

Time Link to 00:16:16

if he didnt bet that big, what was your plan?

Sorry about the audio levels, they were fine in the video I produced but seem enhanced in the final video. I'll remove the table sounds completely for the rest of the series.

Time Link to 00:28:06

it was hard to tell because of the noises, but did you say your plan was to c/r and get it in with the TT on t1? if so, do you think they will be willing to stacking off with 55-99?

Here on bottom right. What if he's betting ? Why are we calling the turn with the read that he bets middle pair (like TT on Khigh board) ? With that read we could think that he is betting TT-88 , Kx, Qx or TJ. And if he's betting 88-TT isn't it better to bluff river?

It's a new player. I said that against the guy that was betting the range you give above there I'd even fold to the flop cbet!

Against this guy I call flop because he's new/unknown so he's likely to be cbetting polarized. I call turn because of his betsizing tell. Raising is an option too, followed by a river check, as he might be bet/folding something like AQ with that size and he might call the raise with a turned draw. You can actually see me consider the play but I had like 3 seconds left so I just clicked call

Hi Grindcore! It's good to have a new series of yours.

Why do you want to c/r the flop on top left? If you get 3bet you're probably in tought decision. Do you think you can be called by pocket 7's here? Don't you think donking is better? Would you consider donking headsup?

Yeah I wasn't very clear on that hand. I mostly meant against button, as he'll likely bluff his air when checked to (which is why I didn't donk), and also bet all his overpairs which he won't fold to a c/r. BB never has JJ+ because he'd squeeze. I'm assuming the guy that called in position probably also 3bets most premiums, so against a range of overpairs on that board I'm ahead. If the PFR cbets his range is actually a lot stronger and I'd probably c/c that.

if he didnt bet that big, what was your plan?

c/c, pray for ace.

It's a new player. I said that against the guy that was betting the range you give above there I'd even fold to the flop cbet!

Against this guy I call flop because he's new/unknown so he's likely to be cbetting polarized. I call turn because of his betsizing tell. Raising is an option too, followed by a river check, as he might be bet/folding something like AQ with that size and he might call the raise with a turned draw. You can actually see me consider the play but I had like 3 seconds left so I just clicked call

aah my bad sorry. I have a leak with the english too lolol. I love that reads based on bet sizes ^^.

it was hard to tell because of the noises, but did you say your plan was to c/r and get it in with the TT on t1? if so, do you think they will be willing to stacking off with 55-99?

I just replied to something similar at the same time you posted this so check out that reply, but I'd like to add that this is also NL50 based. I'm assuming people are less likely to fold hands with good absolute value (overpair in this case) as their hand reading isn't good enough yet. At NL200 I'd assume a reg would mostly fold, so I might do some more c/r bluffing there.

c/c, pray for ace.

are you planning on c/r turn on an offsuit A? what about on a brick?

Just watched to beginning and felt compelled to write already

Just love the way you described the difference in stakes, v well put.

Time Link to 00:11:57

First of all,
great that you make another series for DC - loved already your thin RedLine-series

@hand:
I am not sure tbh if it is readless a solid assumption that someone calls in this spot a 3bet with small pocketpairs.
When you think about a standard-3betcallingrange , the flopcbet seems imo to pretty close.

are you planning on c/r turn on an offsuit A? what about on a brick?

It depends

If I feel he's bluffing I c/c. If I feel he has a hand he really likes I'll c/r as he probably won't fold despite how strong my line looks.

It depends

If I feel he's bluffing I c/c. If I feel he has a hand he really likes I'll c/r as he probably won't fold despite how strong my line looks.

so what about in this specific hand when we are readless? what would be your standard with no information, assuming he bets a standard amount on the turn, say between 2/3 and 4/5 pot?

Time Link to 00:19:38

the 2ndBarell seems ok, given your assumption on his preflopcallingrange and hence his flopcallingrange.
But i would prefer to do it when we would have any EQ vs. his callingrange like a club in our hand.
The reason is b/c i think that the 2ndbarell is in a vacuum even though your given assumption pretty close.
I mean,
half of the time his pocketpairs will have a onecardFD -> who know if he will peel it on the turn or not...
He could flat pre some combos of Ak and has also KQ, KJs... in his range.

First of all,
great that you make another series for DC - loved already your thin RedLine-series

@hand:
I am not sure tbh if it is readless a solid assumption that someone calls in this spot a 3bet with small pocketpairs.
When you think about a standard-3betcallingrange , the flopcbet seems imo to pretty close.

At NL200 I'd c/f there as there's a higher chance of an unknown being a TAG reg, and also a higher chance that a TAG reg folds small pps pre. A NL50 unknown has a wider callingrange so boards that are normally bad for cbetting can become cbettable again, like here. Note that a $7 bet only has to work ~36% of the time there on itself, and my EV for him calling isn't 0 so in practice it has to work like 30%. And for all I know he might be calling with all suited aces, all pairs and suited connecters.

so what about in this specific hand when we are readless? what would be your standard with no information, assuming he bets a standard amount on the turn, say between 2/3 and 4/5 pot?

c/c as that's not an indication that he's in love with his hand.

c/c as that's not an indication that he's in love with his hand.

so im assuming you will be c/r'ing a psb? what about vs a half pot bet?

the 2ndBarell seems ok, given your assumption on his preflopcallingrange and hence his flopcallingrange.
But i would prefer to do it when we would have any EQ vs. his callingrange like a club in our hand.
The reason is b/c i think that the 2ndbarell is in a vacuum even though your given assumption pretty close.
I mean,
half of the time his pocketpairs will have a onecardFD -> who know if he will peel it on the turn or not...
He could flat pre some combos of Ak and has also KQ, KJs... in his range.

If he's calling turn with club pockets and Kx, I can probably fire every river profitably, which adds to the EV of the turn bet. If he has AK in his range which is bad for us, then he also has QQ and JJ in his range which is good for us. QQ/JJ also have an equal ammount of combos on this board, and my bluffs have to work less than 50% of the time since I'm not potbetting. He also doesn't necessarily have to be 100% fit or fold. He could have called AQ AJ AhTh on the flop, which is very common. And if I 3barrel and get called down and he sees my equityless hand, it's gonna set up a nice value play in the future too, so there's even some hidden EV in losing this pot.

When u do the pokerstove in the end of the video, you only have th e flop typed in as "board" in pokerstove, and not the turn. I guess you are in worse spot vs that range on turn card, not have the time to do the pokerstove right now.

Yeah he did that wrong but it's even more of a fold then

so im assuming you will be c/r'ing a psb? what about vs a half pot bet?

Yes, and no.

When u do the pokerstove in the end of the video, you only have th e flop typed in as "board" in pokerstove, and not the turn. I guess you are in worse spot vs that range on turn card, not have the time to do the pokerstove right now.

Oops, my bad. I have 18% vs that range on the turn. Definitely a fold. Though you should never underestimate the spazzfactor, this particular kind of spot is so consistently for value that I should disregard it largely.

Time Link to 00:47:54

t3 when you raise the limper-is 6xing it oop your standard?

Time Link to 00:48:29

t-4 the other board where he double barreled TT had some draws on it tho, so do you think that that read will carry over to this dry board when hes oop with no draws on board? (i know this is a different player now, but if it was the same player)

Time Link to 00:35:15

What would be your action on the flop if Villain would have checked here on the flop?
Just stab b/c he will often give up with OCs which have decent EQ vs. you?
btw.,
would you have make this pseudo-thin Valuebet on the River also vs. a thinking REG of a higher limit?

One additional question on the KK-hand (Min. 35):
Do you think it is a shame to fold on the turn even readless?
I mean the fish_line "Call Flop - Minr. Turn" has imo rly most of the time (just on average experiences) a onepairhand beat, imo.

If you want to adjust your betsizing more easily, there is an option to use your mousewheel to adjust betsize by small blind. That's pretty useful if you want to 2.5x preflop for example.

You can find it under Options - Bet Slider Options - Mouse Wheel Actions

t-4 the other board where he double barreled TT had some draws on it tho, so do you think that that read will carry over to this dry board when hes oop with no draws on board? (i know this is a different player now, but if it was the same player)

Yes, perhaps even especially on dry boards as he's less likely to get raised there.

t3 when you raise the limper-is 6xing it oop your standard?

The less potential my hand has the more I wish to take it down pre. With a hand like 85s I don't mind a call as I can often barrel with equity. With a hand like KQ I also want a call so I can get value. So I raise trashy hands a bit larger. Standard is 4-5bbs depending on his stacksize.

What would be your action on the flop if Villain would have checked here on the flop?
Just stab b/c he will often give up with OCs which have decent EQ vs. you?
btw.,
would you have make this pseudo-thin Valuebet on the River also vs. a thinking REG of a higher limit?

One additional question on the KK-hand (Min. 35):
Do you think it is a shame to fold on the turn even readless?
I mean the fish_line "Call Flop - Minr. Turn" has imo rly most of the time (just on average experiences) a onepairhand beat, imo.

Depends on how much higher. At NL100 or 200 probably yes. At 400+ regs are trickier on the river and could still be going for a c/r, especially if they know I'm aggro on the river. At 400+ 3betting is also more rampant and getting a red on their 3b ranges is important so the value of a showdown goes up. And they're also more likely to have been 3b bluffing with A9 K9 Q9 or so that could c/c here.

I review the KK hand at the end of the video.

Yes, perhaps even especially on dry boards as he's less likely to get raised there.

right, but his value would be a lot thinner on a dry board since there are no draws to get value from, no?

Depends on how much higher. At NL100 or 200 probably yes. At 400+ regs are trickier on the river and could still be going for a c/r, especially if they know I'm aggro on the river. At 400+ 3betting is also more rampant and getting a red on their 3b ranges is important so the value of a showdown goes up. And they're also more likely to have been 3b bluffing with A9 K9 Q9 or so that could c/c here.

I review the KK hand at the end of the video.

Super thank you, for all your answers

Shortly coming back to the 88-hand.
Would you have stabbed on the flop if he would have not cbet the flop for my mentioned reasons in my previous post?

right, but his value would be a lot thinner on a dry board since there are no draws to get value from, no?

You're seeking too much reasoning behind his play. He's simply a player that barrels medium pairs, and that's it. I strongly doubt his 2barrel with a medium pair was board/image/whatever specific, since he was readless on me and it wasn't a good spot to do it the first time around. Fish also don't limp pre because of the table dynamic or something, they just limp because they want to see a flop. And this guy just bets because he has a pair.

Super thank you, for all your answers

Shortly coming back to the 88-hand.
Would you have stabbed on the flop if he would have not cbet the flop for my mentioned reasons in my previous post?

Hands with equity against me are very likely to cbet the flop, so I would not be betting for protection as I'll simply run into his bluffcatchers which are higher in number than his equity-air hands. However, I'd probably 3barrel to get him to fold his likely 2nd pair. Readless he's unlikely to call me down.

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Grincore reproduced the video without the annoying sounds, it is now posted in mp4 and wmv formats. Enjoy.
-Rusty

Time Link to 00:02:40

He might call pre with AA and KK (standard against a villain with a polarize 3 betting range), and follow the turn shoving line.

To me this seems perfectly possible. Am I wrong?

He might call pre with AA and KK (standard against a villain with a polarize 3 betting range), and follow the turn shoving line.

To me this seems perfectly possible. Am I wrong?

Why would you shove the turn though? The entire point of flatting premiums vs a polarized range is to keep the air in his range. Same logic goes for the turn. Why not call and hope he shoves river? The hands that call you if you jam turn will valueshove themselves on the river anyway.

But yeah it's possible he does. Which is the point I'm making in the intro. It's hard to know exactly what's going on at microstakes, so you beat it by playing fundamentally sound and getting strong hands to showdown.

Why would you shove the turn though? The entire point of flatting premiums vs a polarized range is to keep the air in his range. Same logic goes for the turn. Why not call and hope he shoves river? The hands that call you if you jam turn will valueshove themselves on the river anyway.

But yeah it's possible he does. Which is the point I'm making in the intro. It's hard to know exactly what's going on at microstakes, so you beat it by playing fundamentally sound and getting strong hands to showdown.

ok ty, nice stuff there.

I was about to cancel my DC sub but, because of this series, I won't cancel anytime soon. Kind of lame how excited I am for this. /grindcorefanboy

I was about to cancel my DC sub but, because of this series, I won't cancel anytime soon. Kind of lame how excited I am for this. /grindcorefanboy

standard

Time Link to 00:43:17

on table 1 with the kjs why are we betting the turn here? i mean i know we have more equity b/c of the heart, but what hands do we really expect villian to fold on the turn here. should we take the free card? isn't this kinda spewy to bet the turn here? what do we do if we don't get bailed out on the river?

on table 1 with the kjs why are we betting the turn here? i mean i know we have more equity b/c of the heart, but what hands do we really expect villian to fold on the turn here. should we take the free card? isn't this kinda spewy to bet the turn here? what do we do if we don't get bailed out on the river?

You're right, I was talking about a different hand so kinda just clicked a button there. A check is significantly better.

thanks for the quick reply i appreciate it. I just heard ur deuce plays podcast. i'm only playing 4 tables now.

Time Link to 00:29:27

The guy you give a green lable too'mark him not a winning player' is actually prety good, I know him from HU , he's winning something like 20K over 200k hands, 6max is winning 4bb/100+.

Do you think at times we can make too much out of reads we make at the table/given that if we had the info that he was infact good that prob makes our bet sizing read on him untrue (big bets=big hand /small bets=small hands)given this read can get us in a lot of trouble ,do you think if might be bettor to only make deffinate note like this about players when we see some hands at SD.

The guy you give a green lable too'mark him not a winning player' is actually prety good, I know him from HU , he's winning something like 20K over 200k hands, 6max is winning 4bb/100+.

Do you think at times we can make too much out of reads we make at the table/given that if we had the info that he was infact good that prob makes our bet sizing read on him untrue (big bets=big hand /small bets=small hands)given this read can get us in a lot of trouble ,do you think if might be bettor to only make deffinate note like this about players when we see some hands at SD.

I probably have an extremely biased view where I expect anything that might be fishy to actually be fishy as I'm playing so much below my normal level. If he intentionally made that raise to make me think he had a jack (which is something especially a HU player would be capable of) then it's actually a really good play and I jumped to conclusions too soon. But if he's really that good, why hasn't he moved up?

Time Link to 00:34:28

You say your willing to stack off there 'because they are so random' then when we see that this is the nuts we can adjust and not make this mistake again.
I actually disagree with this, We should use good logic and fold here imo, until we see villian do this with the non nuts and then adjust.
This is a typical feature of microstakes where villian calls flop and minraises turn where its always going to be bettor for us to fold as its so often the nuts, if its not and we can make a note somewhere that we see him do this with less ,I think then we make our adjustments without having to ever stack off in this 'lol spot'.
Although Beluga threorm may be a gross generalisation , i think its more +ev to stick to it in the micros unles villian gives us reason not to.(ie some regs are starting to bluff this way vrs other regs)


Edit. You address this at the end of the Vid, so no need to comment here.

I probably have an extremely biased view where I expect anything that might be fishy to actually be fishy as I'm playing so much below my normal level. If he intentionally made that raise to make me think he had a jack (which is something especially a HU player would be capable of) then it's actually a really good play and I jumped to conclusions too soon. But if he's really that good, why hasn't he moved up?

I just checked to see it was deffo the same guy and it is.
winner at 50/100/200 6max/HU nl
winner at 100/200/HU plo.
Got no idea why he was playing 50nl that day I guess he game selects between stakes but Obv wasnt doing good in his game selecting that day,ha ha

thanks for the quick reply i appreciate it. I just heard ur deuce plays podcast. i'm only playing 4 tables now.

Could you please give a link to that podcast? Would be great. Somehow i can t find it.

Thanks in advance

Could you please give a link to that podcast? Would be great. Somehow i can t find it.

Thanks in advance

http://podcasts.deucescracked.com/deuceplays/Deuce_Plays_-_Episode_108_-_2-1-2011_-_Bart_on_Bart_-_Grindcore.mp3

Thank you. I am blind.

Time Link to 00:14:18

Still don't get the point of the fold with the 88. The flop is really dry because it is a paired board, and because the board is paired, it is even less likely that he's got something.

Still don't get the point of the fold with the 88. The flop is really dry because it is a paired board, and because the board is paired, it is even less likely that he's got something.

I explain it right after. Sure it's less likely that he has something, but because the board is paired and my pair is lower than the board, I can get counterfeited which adds to the equity of his air.

Board: Ks Jc Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.934% 60.48% 00.45% 14370 108.00 { 88 }
Hand 1: 39.066% 38.61% 00.45% 9174 108.00 { A9s }


Board: Ks Jc 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.644% 70.64% 00.00% 16785 0.00 { 88 }
Hand 1: 29.356% 29.36% 00.00% 6975 0.00 { A9s }

played 4 tables instead of 8 today and did well!
i was taking way more notes and reads

I explain it right after. Sure it's less likely that he has something, but because the board is paired and my pair is lower than the board, I can get counterfeited which adds to the equity of his air.

Board: Ks Jc Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.934% 60.48% 00.45% 14370 108.00 { 88 }
Hand 1: 39.066% 38.61% 00.45% 9174 108.00 { A9s }


Board: Ks Jc 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.644% 70.64% 00.00% 16785 0.00 { 88 }
Hand 1: 29.356% 29.36% 00.00% 6975 0.00 { A9s }

The equity sample explains everything, tnx a lot.

Goede serie!

Time Link to 00:31:35

Hey, how do you know that sb and bb would be betting a K here?
Should we be betting all of our K's if we were in their spot?

Hey, how do you know that sb and bb would be betting a K here?
Should we be betting all of our K's if we were in their spot?

SB folded pre, so only BB could really have Kx (or set). So to win the hand I only need to get through one person. If BB calls I'll likely shut down, hope to spike river, but if any of the other players c/c I'll barrel away as their ranges are likely capped at weak top pair at best. I guess the PFR could have KK but that's about it.

Time Link to 00:13:10

When he raises from 2.5x or 2x in this case from the button are we doing that with our entire range? Same for premiums as well as small pocket pairs??

When he raises from 2.5x or 2x in this case from the button are we doing that with our entire range? Same for premiums as well as small pocket pairs??

Who? What table? What was my holding? Please be more clear about that stuff.

Who? What table? What was my holding? Please be more clear about that stuff.

My apologies, I provided a time link just before you said you prefer to min raise in spots where there is no small blind.

So my question is, if we are on the button and it gets folded to us, are we opening our entire range 2.5bb (in this case it would be 2 due to no small blind)

You generally want to be consistent with your sizing to not give away your hand strength, unless you feel you can get away with it. There's no way of him knowing my default is minraise when there's no SB, so I could probably do my normal raise size with a stronger hand there. Or if I'm very new to the table and he hasn't seen me 2.5x yet, I can even 3x or pot. But always lean towards consistency unless you have a reason not to.

You generally want to be consistent with your sizing to not give away your hand strength, unless you feel you can get away with it. There's no way of him knowing my default is minraise when there's no SB, so I could probably do my normal raise size with a stronger hand there. Or if I'm very new to the table and he hasn't seen me 2.5x yet, I can even 3x or pot. But always lean towards consistency unless you have a reason not to.

thanks, great advice! one last question, aside from spots that you mentioned, would you say that your "standard" would be to 2.5x every button?

thanks, great advice! one last question, aside from spots that you mentioned, would you say that your "standard" would be to 2.5x every button?

Yes, as you can see in all my videos

Yes, as you can see in all my videos

kk thanks again! first day as a subscriber

Time Link to 00:34:49

Classic case of Baluga Theorem?

Classic case of Baluga Theorem?

I review the hand at the end of the video.

Great video, can't wait to watch #2 in your series!

You say in the video that you will be starting out with opening the SB 100% against everybody because people in general folds too much in BB.
Which player types (in BB) are best / worst to open against in the SB? Isn't it better to try and steal blinds from Tight players instead of loose players?

You open 4 x BB from UTG (with suited connectors). Is it always 4 x BB from UTG?

You opens UTG+1 with ATo, and folds to a SB 3Bet. Which Range should be Open-Folding / Open-Calling / Open-4Bet?

You calls in BB against a BTN steal (3 x BB) with pair 88. Do we call with all pairs? How loose will does the opponent have to be before we start to 3Bet him?

At the beginning of your session you have just argued that it is better to C-Bet closer to Pot size when you are up against a fishy player. After 21:45 minutes you only C-Bet ½-Pot, is that because this is a 3Bet pot?

After 31:30 minutes you play a multiway hans and you seems to believe that the only player who are able to trap is the player that are first to act. The other players would have bet the flop if they have connected with the flop.
Question: How much of this depends on how wet/dry the board is. Do people tend to be more trappy on dry boards and Value Bet on wet boards or the other way around?

Close to the end of the session you got dealt AJo in the CO, UTG opens (3½ x BB). You say: "If you don't call it 3Bet it, cause it is the best hand that you folded otherwise". I do not understand that sentence?
Could you please explain it a little further?

Great video, can't wait to watch #2 in your series!

You say in the video that you will be starting out with opening the SB 100% against everybody because people in general folds too much in BB.
Which player types (in BB) are best / worst to open against in the SB? Isn't it better to try and steal blinds from Tight players instead of loose players?

You open 4 x BB from UTG (with suited connectors). Is it always 4 x BB from UTG?

You opens UTG+1 with ATo, and folds to a SB 3Bet. Which Range should be Open-Folding / Open-Calling / Open-4Bet?

You calls in BB against a BTN steal (3 x BB) with pair 88. Do we call with all pairs? How loose will does the opponent have to be before we start to 3Bet him?

The answer to these questions: it depends... In my other series, The Thin Red Line, I talk general theory and focus on adjusting in the first episode, so that'd probably be a good watch. However, all my videos are geared towards players that already have all the fundamentals down, with as goal to help them expand beyond that. If you start expanding beyond the fundamentals without having them down yet, you'll do more harm than good to your game, so it might be better to watch some series by other instructors first. Don't underestimate the importance of what I just said, as many people did and proceeded to lose a lot of money and complain my videos made them spewy. I'd say when you're capable of beating NL50 would be a good time to start watching my series. But you're obviously free to watch whatever you want

At the beginning of your session you have just argued that it is better to C-Bet closer to Pot size when you are up against a fishy player. After 21:45 minutes you only C-Bet ½-Pot, is that because this is a 3Bet pot?

You should cbet close to pot for value and close to half pot as a bluff, as fish will fold anyway with air and will call anyway if they've hit. To a regular this strategy could be face up and you risk giving away your hand, but a fish won't adjust to it. In general I cbet half pot in 3bet pots as that works out well with stacksizes (river is a half pot shove this way). But I'll cbet larger (or smaller) vs fish in 3b pots too.

After 31:30 minutes you play a multiway hans and you seems to believe that the only player who are able to trap is the player that are first to act. The other players would have bet the flop if they have connected with the flop.
Question: How much of this depends on how wet/dry the board is. Do people tend to be more trappy on dry boards and Value Bet on wet boards or the other way around?

Yeah people are more trappy on dry boards, as there are less action killing cards, or cards where their opponent can suck out on them. On wet boards there are also more hands that can call you if you fast play.

Close to the end of the session you got dealt AJo in the CO, UTG opens (3½ x BB). You say: "If you don't call it 3Bet it, cause it is the best hand that you folded otherwise". I do not understand that sentence?
Could you please explain it a little further?

I extensively cover this in the first episode of The Thin Red Line. Keep the disclaimer in mind though.

Oops, my bad. I have 18% vs that range on the turn. Definitely a fold. Though you should never underestimate the spazzfactor, this particular kind of spot is so consistently for value that I should disregard it largely.

hey grindcore, any reason why you don't consider calling his minraise and either c/c or c/f river?

hey grindcore, any reason why you don't consider calling his minraise and either c/c or c/f river?

I know he's not bluffing. Call turn x/c river is the worst, because if he has a hand like AJ, he might check back a Q river while he'll call a turnshove, so if you're calling river anyway, you should shove turn. And calling turn x/f river is also no good as he's never bluffing and thus always betting river. Might as well fold turn and safe yourself some extra money.

ah ok, that makes sense. never thought about it like that

don't know about "definitely a fold" in this spot though. if I were in this spot I'd always just think that he could be spazzing out like you said and doing this for value with a lot of Jx hands, mainly cause he doesn't have a full stack since I won't have any other reads. Is this type of thinking a bit of a leak?

Don't get me wrong. They do spazz. That's why you generally shouldn't fold strong hands against unpredictable opponents, as explained at the start of the video. But this particular line is just so consistently for value. Run a filter on your database "facing turn raise = true" or something, and throw the hands in a replayer. Look for the ones where you got minraised on the turn by a fish, and see how many of them were a spazz and how many the nuts.

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Hey Grindcore, I am sorry for not commenting earlier, I didn't have time because of uni, I might have lost my status as your no1 fan

This discussion comes up so often in micro stakes forums, an unknown or someone we don't have not completely stellar reads, but has a fullstack, autorebuy and decent VIP level on on opens in CO or OTB, and we find ourselves in the blinds, without a squeeze happy villain in BB, or let's say we are in the BB ourselves.

I am a huge fan of flatting mid strength hands like KQo AJo KJs ATo... and AQ too if the villain seems pretty tight and 3bet not much and when we do do it with a polarized range as we have a totally clean image (and there is 0 emotional attachment towards us as we are totally unknown). Then basically with out pretty much always 6+ outs I go ahead and check raise a decent amount of flops and float oop some small % of the time (like on obvious KXXr boards that people cbet and c/f with weak hands a ton on turn+ river). Because he is unknown reg but so are we people usually give us credit and 3betting will not get us a ton of value with those hands, but also when we attack him in single raise pot when his range is weak it should work a lot more than when we have history or villain has any reason to have an emotional intuitive response towards us.

I think with this approach I am open to a ton of mistakes and can bluff people that can't be bluffed at NL50 which happens a decent amount and am forcing play oop , but then again I find out right there and build an image and when e.g. someone re-pops me when I don't rep much on a dry board when I c/r and I snapfold I will be able to shift my range strongly towards value and if he does give me credit, great I got myself a weak spot (again with added complexity of estimating when he will feel threatened by our actions and will get pissed and start playing back).


Would you agree with this a lot less straightforward approach that seems optimal to me but that doesn't allow us 3bet, cbet and be done with the hand and avoid making mistakes, or would you say it's best to just 3bet unknown regs with these mid strenght hands and avoid making mistakes?

TY for your answer in advance I hope you see this after such a long time <3

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I copied your note taking style pretty much, but I found out it gets complicated a lot when you have a ton of notes so I split it into 3 categories, e.g:

4/11 NL25 6MAX
*PRE*
-call AQo in BB
*3B*
*POST*
-check raise 2.6X AQ QXXs+stack off
-minraise TP+FD and ship

1) How do you manage to keep up when you have large amount of notes? I know you do a lot of refining and put the notes together and generalize patterns when you have blank periods, but I find a lot of the time that I am left with too many notes on various spots clumped together and I just ignore them.

2) Would you say this is good/logical categorization (PRE, 3B, POST) and would you add/refine some categories or add turn and river possibly once I move up to higher stakes where I have 5k+ hands on frequent regs?

Again I hope you see this
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbgb1qcr6o1qafrh6.png

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Again one of the common spots you were talking about. You say most regs wouldn't cbet Jx on KJXr and the KJJ adds audacity to his air. From the perceptive of the regular against unknown regish looking TAG, would you recommend going ahead and cbet JX, and does it depend on the strength of the kicker?

It feels like when I check it turns my hand face up, and when it gets showed down my cbets lose a lot of credit in a decent reg's eyes on similar boards, and I am left with a decision whether I check (turn+rvr) or bet (raise where he reps nothing+river when it goes bet check and he bets). What would you say is best until we get reads?

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On the J32s with 33, you say you don't want him to check back a Jack on the turn. Is call flop lead rag turn an option, and why do you think it isn't?
Would you agree that unknown regs are more inclined to fold to a c/r than to a call-lead line?
Are there any other hands that you would take that line with (flush draws, Jx etc.)?

I never do it, and it would be fun to know if I should

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Wow now you were squeezing OOP with A5o to $6 into 2 people against the same $1.5 raise PF, and earlier in the video you squeezed a $1.50 iso raise to the same size also oop. Is there any reason why using these sizes or you just 3bet to $6 as a standard oop (I thought the small iso-re pop was quite big, and this size would be standard for me when squeezing).

When I re-pop iso raises, and I do it a ton I just make it 3x+1bb usually, as their range is so weak I think I don't have to bake it bigger even oop, is that wrong thinking?

Hey Grindcore, I am sorry for not commenting earlier, I didn't have time because of uni, I might have lost my status as your no1 fan

This discussion comes up so often in micro stakes forums, an unknown or someone we don't have not completely stellar reads, but has a fullstack, autorebuy and decent VIP level on on opens in CO or OTB, and we find ourselves in the blinds, without a squeeze happy villain in BB, or let's say we are in the BB ourselves.

I am a huge fan of flatting mid strength hands like KQo AJo KJs ATo... and AQ too if the villain seems pretty tight and 3bet not much and when we do do it with a polarized range as we have a totally clean image (and there is 0 emotional attachment towards us as we are totally unknown). Then basically with out pretty much always 6+ outs I go ahead and check raise a decent amount of flops and float oop some small % of the time (like on obvious KXXr boards that people cbet and c/f with weak hands a ton on turn+ river). Because he is unknown reg but so are we people usually give us credit and 3betting will not get us a ton of value with those hands, but also when we attack him in single raise pot when his range is weak it should work a lot more than when we have history or villain has any reason to have an emotional intuitive response towards us.

I think with this approach I am open to a ton of mistakes and can bluff people that can't be bluffed at NL50 which happens a decent amount and am forcing play oop , but then again I find out right there and build an image and when e.g. someone re-pops me when I don't rep much on a dry board when I c/r and I snapfold I will be able to shift my range strongly towards value and if he does give me credit, great I got myself a weak spot (again with added complexity of estimating when he will feel threatened by our actions and will get pissed and start playing back).


Would you agree with this a lot less straightforward approach that seems optimal to me but that doesn't allow us 3bet, cbet and be done with the hand and avoid making mistakes, or would you say it's best to just 3bet unknown regs with these mid strenght hands and avoid making mistakes?

TY for your answer in advance I hope you see this after such a long time <3

If you think checkraising is +EV vs the average unknown, go for it. If you think it's not, then don't. Obviously vs some unbluffable players it's gonna be horrible. Vs others it's gonna be great. You don't know it yet. So just do what you think is best based on the way you feel unknowns play on average.

If you're gonna play fit/fold with strong hands postflop you should just be 3betting pre though imo. And aside from that kinda making intuitive sense, it also makes sense when you think about it. The only reason to play fit/fold post is if you think the guy hates folding. And if you think the guy hates folding, you can 3b for value pre instead of flatting.

I copied your note taking style pretty much, but I found out it gets complicated a lot when you have a ton of notes so I split it into 3 categories, e.g:


1) How do you manage to keep up when you have large amount of notes? I know you do a lot of refining and put the notes together and generalize patterns when you have blank periods, but I find a lot of the time that I am left with too many notes on various spots clumped together and I just ignore them.

2) Would you say this is good/logical categorization (PRE, 3B, POST) and would you add/refine some categories or add turn and river possibly once I move up to higher stakes where I have 5k+ hands on frequent regs?

Again I hope you see this
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbgb1qcr6o1qafrh6.png

Have a clear distinction between observations and conclusions. I seperate them with a line. When in a spot, you only have to look at the conclusions in general, which won't be much. Anytime you write down a new observation, instantly compare it to the rest and see if there's a conclusion to be drawn based on the new info. As soon as you've drawn conclusions from observations, you can delete the observations to keep your notes clean. Re-watch TRL episode 3 if this isn't clear.

Again one of the common spots you were talking about. You say most regs wouldn't cbet Jx on KJXr and the KJJ adds audacity to his air. From the perceptive of the regular against unknown regish looking TAG, would you recommend going ahead and cbet JX, and does it depend on the strength of the kicker?

It feels like when I check it turns my hand face up, and when it gets showed down my cbets lose a lot of credit in a decent reg's eyes on similar boards, and I am left with a decision whether I check (turn+rvr) or bet (raise where he reps nothing+river when it goes bet check and he bets). What would you say is best until we get reads?

Even at midstakes a lot of regs don't adjust to you not cbetting Jx on those boards. Don't worry about being exploited. It just doesn't happen. If you think a check turns your hand face up, then check your air and go for delayed cbets instead. If he's putting you on Jx and is gonna bet, then he'll have to fire multiple barrels in his eyes, so his bluffing frequency n the flop will drop as people are less willing to bluff when it doesn't look like you're folding. If you feel he's betting a lot when you check to him, then just go ahead and c/c Jx and Kx+ even, and just cbet air.

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The Ajo hand on KXXsX when the reg 2 barrels TT bu v sb and you call 2x, now that you have the read would you be inclined to turn the bottom of your range (A high?) into a bluff and c/c flop c/r turn and see how he reacts (assuming you do it say 100 hands later and he won't have many reasons to think you are spewing against him), or what is the proper adjustment?

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Great video thanks Grindcore,
I don't know if there were less spots or if I became tired in the second half, I had just 4 hours of sleep last night . Thanks a lot for the replies I think I saw some already, and I will compose them later.

I hope you don't mind if I set up a stalker file on you just like on TalentedTom from Liquidpoker and Giggy where I write down and analyse everything you guys say or post anywhere on the internet. Having 24/7/365 for poker for the first time ever is fun

The Ajo hand on KXXsX when the reg 2 barrels TT bu v sb and you call 2x, now that you have the read would you be inclined to turn the bottom of your range (A high?) into a bluff and c/c flop c/r turn and see how he reacts (assuming you do it say 100 hands later and he won't have many reasons to think you are spewing against him), or what is the proper adjustment?

From a theoretical point of view: if a guy is 2barreling a lot, you should play a bit tighter pre (as the average potsize postflop will be larger thus postflop equity becomes more important than defending your SB) and play more fit/fold on the flop for the same reasons.

From an exploitative point of view: depends on what he'll do with his medium/weak made hands when facing heat. You can either wait for a strong hand and find out, or just do it with air and obtain the read faster + possibly trash your image which is always good if you plan to play tighter/more fit/fold vs a guy. If he doesn't fold the medium hands to heat, 3b him pre with your medium hands and only flat strong ones (including premiums) and just c/r and stack him with top pair.

It also depends on how he plays his air. OOP floating might still be fine if he just gives up on the turn and fires every pair (100% honest). If that's the case you can start getting incredibly out of line to exploit his honesty.

You're right, I was talking about a different hand so kinda just clicked a button there. A check is significantly better.

do you think that a triple barel could be good here ? because vilain would have check raised the flop with sets and his range is pretty much draw, pair+draw or some over pair. You dont think that a triple barel could make him fold all his pair+draw and draw that miss the river ?

I understand the point of checking back but I just want to know if it can be a good spot for 3barel.

(43:15 in the video)

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table 4: QT

Can you explain your play ? Why dont you cbet this flop for protection/value ? and when the tight player bet, you expect him to only bet an ace and check all other pair, draw, etc. ?

Table 2: AK

why dont you cbet this dry flop ? is it a reason or its because your attention was on the table 1 action and you just click check btn? because even into 2 players, T42tt seems a good flop to cbet with 2 overs IP imo.

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Table 3: J7o

Is there any read/reason to call turn and river with 3rd pair on a connected board ? Is it because you expect him to bet when he hits ? I tend to put player who limp/call on small-med PP, suited connector and random hand and I think this flop hits his range a lot. And him checking back the turn doesnt necessarily mean that he has nothing imo. Am I wrong ?

Table 4: 77

If his turn bet size was bigger (75-80% pot), would you call the turn bet ?

do you think that a triple barel could be good here ? because vilain would have check raised the flop with sets and his range is pretty much draw, pair+draw or some over pair. You dont think that a triple barel could make him fold all his pair+draw and draw that miss the river ?

I understand the point of checking back but I just want to know if it can be a good spot for 3barel.

(43:15 in the video)

What hand are you talking about? The AKs?

table 4: QT

Can you explain your play ? Why dont you cbet this flop for protection/value ? and when the tight player bet, you expect him to only bet an ace and check all other pair, draw, etc. ?

Table 2: AK

why dont you cbet this dry flop ? is it a reason or its because your attention was on the table 1 action and you just click check btn? because even into 2 players, T42tt seems a good flop to cbet with 2 overs IP imo.

QT is an extremely standard check. Cbetting there is a pretty big leak. There's no way I'm ahead when a cbet gets called. And there's only 1 overcard to my hand, I don't gain much by protecting.

AK is kinda like QT. Though their air has more equity vs me here, they might have dirty outs to compensate for that. I'd rather cbet a low pp than AK.

Table 3: J7o

Is there any read/reason to call turn and river with 3rd pair on a connected board ? Is it because you expect him to bet when he hits ? I tend to put player who limp/call on small-med PP, suited connector and random hand and I think this flop hits his range a lot. And him checking back the turn doesnt necessarily mean that he has nothing imo. Am I wrong ?

Table 4: 77

If his turn bet size was bigger (75-80% pot), would you call the turn bet ?

J7o sure him checking back doesn't mean he has nothing. But he's not checking 9x on the flop and then suddenly betting the overcard turn. Same for 8x. When he bets the Q he's way more likely to now be taking a stab with air than to have spiked a Q becuase his preflop limping range is mostly low cards. The fact that our pair is 3rd doesn't matter. Any bluffcatcher is the same there as he's polarized. There's no reason to bet the turn because he's folding everything we beat, so it's better to check and give him another chance to bluff.

77 yeah, probably fold. Raising turn and checking back river might have been better if I have the betsize tell confirmed as I get value/protection vs his likely draws/air.

What hand are you talking about? The AKs?

KJs table 1

QT is an extremely standard check. Cbetting there is a pretty big leak. There's no way I'm ahead when a cbet gets called. And there's only 1 overcard to my hand, I don't gain much by protecting.

AK is kinda like QT. Though their air has more equity vs me here, they might have dirty outs to compensate for that. I'd rather cbet a low pp than AK.

Does it change something that you were 3ways with AK ? HU are you cbetting?

Maybe I missed something but are you not cbetting because you have showdown value or because yo uthink you wont get called by worst hands?

thx

Does it change something that you were 3ways with AK ? HU are you cbetting?

Maybe I missed something but are you not cbetting because you have showdown value or because yo uthink you wont get called by worst hands?

thx

I'd check both. Checking back is better HU than multiway I think, but it kinda depends on your opponents.

Both.

J7o sure him checking back doesn't mean he has nothing. But he's not checking 9x on the flop and then suddenly betting the overcard turn. Same for 8x. When he bets the Q he's way more likely to now be taking a stab with air than to have spiked a Q becuase his preflop limping range is mostly low cards. The fact that our pair is 3rd doesn't matter. Any bluffcatcher is the same there as he's polarized. There's no reason to bet the turn because he's folding everything we beat, so it's better to check and give him another chance to bluff.

100% right.. I didnt think about that before. I was just thinking that you got 3rd pair on a low connected board and an overcard comes on the turn so its a fold.

And I have another question about cbetting from my last post ( 43:27, Table 4 QT). You said checking back is standart wQT. I understand that you have nothing to protect from (because just one overcard). And by cbettting you cant really get called by worst. But if you had second pair on a low flop and there was a lot of overcard that can come on the turn, would you cbet ? I mean, If you cant really have value by betting, is protection a good reason to cbet ?

do you think that a triple barel could be good here ? because vilain would have check raised the flop with sets and his range is pretty much draw, pair+draw or some over pair. You dont think that a triple barel could make him fold all his pair+draw and draw that miss the river ?

I understand the point of checking back but I just want to know if it can be a good spot for 3barel.

(43:15 in the video)

No, because he has a ton of Ax in his flop calling range that made a straight. And there's no reason to assume he's checkraising a set on a rainbow baby board.

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Grindcore, you convinced me obviously to play 4 tables from now on, but what do you think about brm? My only goal is to play winning 200nl asap and i am thinking about very aggro brm. I dont need to live from it or whatever.

Something like this is my idea. Fitst limit, second when to start, third when to move down.

20 200 140
50 600 450
100 1300 1000
200 2800 2200

Some friends tell me this is stupid, but if you improve and are not too proud to move down after losing, i don't really see why i shouldnt try. So, what is your opinion on this? Tnx man

Grindcore, you convinced me obviously to play 4 tables from now on, but what do you think about brm? My only goal is to play winning 200nl asap and i am thinking about very aggro brm. I dont need to live from it or whatever.

Something like this is my idea. Fitst limit, second when to start, third when to move down.

20 200 140
50 600 450
100 1300 1000
200 2800 2200

Some friends tell me this is stupid, but if you improve and are not too proud to move down after losing, i don't really see why i shouldnt try. So, what is your opinion on this? Tnx man

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/26-Tool_Time/6631-WiltOnTilt_Bankroll_Management

Tnx man!

funny, table 1 at 29:10, you assume that 'player bets' is not a winning player, but he has won a decent amount actually :-)

http://www.pokertableratings.com/fulltilt-player-search/player+bets

Hmm. Odds of a 40/20 guy over a few hands that showed fishy smelling betsizes being a winning reg are low though. Gotta be realistic.

true no complaints, just comical

Very nice video.

At 33 min bottom right table-88 hand,after checking turn if villain lead outs the river then till what bet size are we calling????Would it be correct to call almost any bet size <pot size because he cant really have much value hands there???I am talking of the low river cards as I think we should fold on any J+ river card.Not sure though.

At 48 min 77 hand when you called the turn I interpreted it as:Villain mostly wont be barreling any Qx as the board is fairly dry.So his betting range is Kx and stronger and air.We put more air in his range because of his sizing but the board is dry so he may very well be betting smaller with his strong hands too.This means that he mostly has a polarized range so we call with 77.On the river when he checks you said that a bet is also +EV.Is the reasoning behind it that we want him to fold weak Kx,88,TT,JJ??Is my thought process correct??

Very nice video.

At 33 min bottom right table-88 hand,after checking turn if villain lead outs the river then till what bet size are we calling????Would it be correct to call almost any bet size <pot size because he cant really have much value hands there???I am talking of the low river cards as I think we should fold on any J+ river card.Not sure though.

There's always a chance that he was going for a value checkraise on the turn so he could still show up with good hands on the river. If he checked with air presumably it was to give up so it wouldn't make sense to suddenly bet river again. He'll mostly check river, but when he doesn't he's probably valuebetting. So we should probably fold unless he bets 2bbs or something so we can just call for info+potodds.

At 48 min 77 hand when you called the turn I interpreted it as:Villain mostly wont be barreling any Qx as the board is fairly dry.So his betting range is Kx and stronger and air.We put more air in his range because of his sizing but the board is dry so he may very well be betting smaller with his strong hands too.This means that he mostly has a polarized range so we call with 77.On the river when he checks you said that a bet is also +EV.Is the reasoning behind it that we want him to fold weak Kx,88,TT,JJ??Is my thought process correct??

Yes. But betting there is better at higher stakes where people are more capable of folding top pair.

thnx man.Your posts always help me clear my doubts.

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Hi Grindcore,

do you really think Cbetting here is good with AQs? You are OOP, you don't know how much he will call etc. Most of time fishes are callingstations obv. I think with most of his range he will continue on this board, something like 80%. (gutshots,BDFD+overcards, pairs etc).

Your plan is to double barrel a lot or? I think only when you 2barrel a lot of cards (value from draws) and c/f river, cbetting is good here. But you dont know if he barrels a lot on river when you chk to him, so you have to look first, if you think hes an aggressive player, and think about if he will bet river when you check to him with missed draws? Because only then you can barrel lot of turns to get value again out of draws EV+.

Hi Grindcore,

do you really think Cbetting here is good with AQs? You are OOP, you don't know how much he will call etc. Most of time fishes are callingstations obv. I think with most of his range he will continue on this board, something like 80%. (gutshots,BDFD+overcards, pairs etc).

Your plan is to double barrel a lot or? I think only when you 2barrel a lot of cards (value from draws) and c/f river, cbetting is good here. But you dont know if he barrels a lot on river when you chk to him, so you have to look first, if you think hes an aggressive player, and think about if he will bet river when you check to him with missed draws? Because only then you can barrel lot of turns to get value again out of draws EV+.

3.5 into 5 only needs ~41% folds. Yes he'll hit this board with something more often but he still only has to fold a minority of the time. And that's the amount of folds we need if we instantly lose the hand when he doesn't fold, which is obviously not the case. If I check and he bets I can't really call and then I don't get to realize any of my equity, I can bluff him more credibly, etc. The board is also only 8 high so there will be a lot of profitable 2/3 barreling spots as his calling range can very infrequently play a big pot without improving. All that taken into account I need way less than 41% folds.

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AJo Table 2: would you call a 3barrel here? On one side it weakens his range because he don't 3barrel all his Kx, but on the other side people on 50nl doesnt 3barrel bluf that much I think. But all the draws miss, so I would prefer the call for information + I think we are enough times right, you?

AJo Table 2: would you call a 3barrel here? On one side it weakens his range because he don't 3barrel all his Kx, but on the other side people on 50nl doesnt 3barrel bluf that much I think. But all the draws miss, so I would prefer the call for information + I think we are enough times right, you?

He probably expects me to fold my 77 hands etc on the turn a good % of the time, so I probably have a king quite often there in his eyes. Also the 5 pairing is not a good bluffing card, and all draws missed. I think this is a bit too spewy of a spot to call. Also it's NL50 and people do random things. He could be 3barrel bluffing with the best hand or something. Though I am a big fan of herocalling for info early on in sessions so if you think it's close you should definitely call light, I just don't think this particular spot is close enough for it. There's a very similar hand later in this series where I do get 3barreled and call (though it wasn't for info ).

Time Link to 00:14:22

@table 4 A7o

do you isoraise here a really large range because it's a fish and try to win the pot with a cheap cbet or double or tripple barrel good barrel cards?

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JJ table 2: against this type of player, pbb a fish with his not 100bb stack, im comfortable to c/c one street. But I feel like when I play against regulars/unks nowadays (100bb stack) then C/F is the best option because when you c/c once, your hand is pretty face up. If somebody c/c vs me on flop I 3barrel a lot for this reasons, and other players are doing that also now a lot I think. (I play 50nl)

(offcourse when I have this read vs someone I start c/c a lot with my middle pair hands, but without reads it's difficult)

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A7o table 3: I 3betted here also last couple months with A7o but when you get called you always flop bad, So I started 3betting only with hand with equity OOP. IP its a good hand because you dont get called that much and you have blockers.

~my range here: pbb also 3betting Q6s etc, for dont letting him play with the fish ofc. but still postflop playability:
A9s-A2s,KTs-K9s,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,65s,54s,43s,32s

Or do you think that isnt that necessairly and 3betting here with A7o is fine, because you dont let him play with the fish, you have a blocker and you barrel a lot on dry flops? I have a really hard time with knowing when to barrel and when not to barrel when I get called. So barreling when having equity is obv easier. But I think when you only barrel with equity that isnt also good. Because when he calls I think he has a lot of TT,JJ and AQ so you barrel a lot of dry flops to get him fold that hands. And when you see him calling light down than you adjust. Your thoughts ?

@table 4 A7o

do you isoraise here a really large range because it's a fish and try to win the pot with a cheap cbet or double or tripple barrel good barrel cards?

Yes. Or just hit a flop. There's nothing wrong with playing tight and just folding though. As long as you don't complete

JJ table 2: against this type of player, pbb a fish with his not 100bb stack, im comfortable to c/c one street. But I feel like when I play against regulars/unks nowadays (100bb stack) then C/F is the best option because when you c/c once, your hand is pretty face up. If somebody c/c vs me on flop I 3barrel a lot for this reasons, and other players are doing that also now a lot I think. (I play 50nl)

(offcourse when I have this read vs someone I start c/c a lot with my middle pair hands, but without reads it's difficult)

It depends on how the average reg plays in the games you're playing. If they're always 3barreling then maybe you should triple check call JJ here as most people don't fire the 3rd barrel with hands like A5 as they expect you to fold all worse hands.

A7o table 3: I 3betted here also last couple months with A7o but when you get called you always flop bad, So I started 3betting only with hand with equity OOP. IP its a good hand because you dont get called that much and you have blockers.

~my range here: pbb also 3betting Q6s etc, for dont letting him play with the fish ofc. but still postflop playability:
A9s-A2s,KTs-K9s,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,65s,54s,43s,32s

Or do you think that isnt that necessairly and 3betting here with A7o is fine, because you dont let him play with the fish, you have a blocker and you barrel a lot on dry flops? I have a really hard time with knowing when to barrel and when not to barrel when I get called. So barreling when having equity is obv easier. But I think when you only barrel with equity that isnt also good. Because when he calls I think he has a lot of TT,JJ and AQ so you barrel a lot of dry flops to get him fold that hands. And when you see him calling light down than you adjust. Your thoughts ?

You're not making your money when you get called. You're making your money when he folds. Ax has a good blocker so it's more likely he folds to A7o than to 65s. The hands you're suggesting to 3b with are actually good hands to just flat with and keep the fish in and play 3way. If you 3b and you get called, your default play should be to check-fold. Don't even bother cbetting unless you're sure it's +EV.

You're not making your money when you get called. You're making your money when he folds. Ax has a good blocker so it's more likely he folds to A7o than to 65s. The hands you're suggesting to 3b with are actually good hands to just flat with and keep the fish in and play 3way. If you 3b and you get called, your default play should be to check-fold. Don't even bother cbetting unless you're sure it's +EV.

okay thanks, but what if the fish was a regular and opened 4bb, UTG+1 called, do you now prefer 3betsqueezing the hands I mentioned like 56s,J9s,T8s,97s or Axo? When you get called you can fire a lot more now with draws.

And my 2nd question on this: when you 3betsqueeze here and get called do you only want to fire with equity or do you also want to 3barrel a board like K32r | 7 | 8 with QJs (hand doesnt really matter) because I think their callingrange will be a lot of AQ,TT,JJ,99 (some AK) which you can let him fold on a tripple barrel, except AK offcourse. So I think I can be sure that this is an +EV 3barrel

It all depends on your opponent. If you think his range is 99+/AQ+ with KK+/AK discounted, then 3barreling is good if he calls twice with QQ- but folds to the third. If he already folds QQ on the turn you should probably give up on the river.

Opinions on whether to 3b suited connectors or big card hands differ. Do what you think makes most sense.

9:30 Table 4. 67o
If you try get him off Jx then Q and K are also good card to bluff, right?

35:47 Table 1 QTo
Is 10bb 3bet on SB ur std against 2.5x open? Same for BB?

Great video, could've been less timeouts...