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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by BigBadBabar (High Stakes)

Time Link to 00:23:51

Epic. Didn't know about Birdman-ing.

Oh, and no way I retire if I'm Peyton. I've already won a Superbowl so I'm locked up for the hall of fame. Now I'm just straight making that guaranteed money--like probably 40 mil. I'd probably birdman while I'm signing the new contract.

Don't tell me money isn't the most important thing here. It's the only thing.

Even though I don't know his medical history, I'd imagine he's had enough medical people tell him he's going to be fine. Oh, and since we already know he's signed with the Broncos, that team is stacked. Like way better than the Colts have been over the past 2-3 years.

Time Link to 00:24:13

Eli sucks and I don't care what Danzasmack thinks. The kid made two lucky passes and now everyone thinks he's baller. Eli looks like a lamer version of Eeyore from Winnie-the-Pooh.

Time Link to 00:25:56

Lol, had I been in his spot, I think I would have bet 99 and realized I had no idea why I bet. I mean, he only beats 5x, 6x, 77, 88 right? Maybe you snap off a bluff w/ King high? So that sounds like a good argument for x/c? Especially given what's in your call down range, betting seems like suicide.

Just looking at how you played the hand, is your call down range only pp lower than Aces here? Idk, how often do you play Ax the way you played this hand? Do you differentiate and put in a raise with stronger Aces vs weaker Aces? Is this opponent specific?

Oh, if he had like KK-JJ, and the board came A T xxx (or some situation where BBB more likely makes a second best hand) then its an easier x/r b b the way he did right?

Time Link to 00:22:13

you mention that you probably fold a river here if he bets again. this is a pretty big mistake i think. messing around with the EV calculator, if he plays his draws this way > 35% of the time, then you are making a mistake by folding.

Time Link to 00:54:26

I think I wait for the turn with all my flushdraws, but from what I'm starting to see in other video's I don't think I'm right. The things that cross my mind right now are which hands to semibluff with (either the Ace high or smaller flush draws), when to x/r (either the flop or turn), whether board texture matters, and how do we balance our play (if our opponent is capable of noticing).

As for raising the smaller flush draws, we're targeting the King/Queen/Jack high hands and trying to get them to fold. Well, if anything folds we're happy. So it seems appropriate to semibluff right? As for the Ace high draws, we have have some showdown value, so we run into problems when we start folding out worse hands (whereas that might not be too bad if the pot is larger).

Here there's a paired board, and I think if we x/r the flop with the Ace high flush draw we don't realize the fold equity with regards to the better hands we are targeting. If we x/r the Ace high draw on the flop, then the preflop raiser/c-bettor pretty much never believes the flop x/r as trips and instantly thinks "flush draw." That's basically what you did right? So we don't get any made hands to fold, and probably get peeled light on the turn as well. Then do you continue firing the river? Just thinking about river actions, don't all worse hands fold, and only sometimes/rarely will we actually make a better hand fold?

I'm thinking if a King or Queen is on the flop [i.e. K84, Q97] by the time we hit the river maybe we get fourth pair to fold. Maybe a small pocket pair. I don't know if that happens as much on a 996xx flop. Thoughts?

As for picking between the flop and turn to semibluff, you're firing two barrel's right BBB? So then shouldn't we wait to raise the turn? Maybe that depends on whether the pfr'r auto two barrels and what if any scare cards force him to shut down on the turn.

Oh, and does all of this mean we have to wait for the turn with all of our value hands? (And assuming we're playing against someone who is a thinking "red chip" player). Do that mean we take our trips/strong pp's and wait to raise the turn with them as well?

I'm tired. I should have answered/responded two weeks ago to the other video. I'll try to do that tomorrow.

Eli sucks and I don't care what Danzasmack thinks. The kid made two lucky passes and now everyone thinks he's baller. Eli looks like a lamer version of Eeyore from Winnie-the-Pooh.

Ohhhhh guess who picked the right time to start watching LHE videos again!

Ohhhhh guess who picked the right time to start watching LHE videos again!

That's right folks, take note that in no way did Chuck defend his sorry excuse for a quarterback.

Sincerely, a bitter Falcons fan.

That's right folks, take note that in no way did Chuck defend his sorry excuse for a quarterback.

Sincerely, a bitter Falcons fan.

You're right. The 4,933 regular season passing yards he threw and the 0 points your QB put up against us in the playoffs speaks for itself.

You're right. The 4,933 regular season passing yards he threw and the 0 points your QB put up against us in the playoffs speaks for itself.

Yeah I got nothing. Still.

Time Link to 00:16:19

Wow nice fold with the rockets! I totally agree its a fold, I hope I would have made it myself but I'm not so sure.

Time Link to 00:06:38

looking at this again i prefer a flop bet for sure

Wow nice fold with the rockets! I totally agree its a fold, I hope I would have made it myself but I'm not so sure.

ty, seems like i can find a better 'i'm gonna call this for the sake of the video' spot

you mention that you probably fold a river here if he bets again. this is a pretty big mistake i think. messing around with the EV calculator, if he plays his draws this way > 35% of the time, then you are making a mistake by folding.

on the Q9dd hand on the left? yeah you're right, i'm getting a reasonable price and what else is he going to do if he does have a busted draw? c/r flop and barrel ui is a pretty standard line, and i've already pointed out that he's pretty c/r happy on the flop so likely his range does have a lot of draws in it

thanks

Epic. Didn't know about Birdman-ing.

Oh, and no way I retire if I'm Peyton. I've already won a Superbowl so I'm locked up for the hall of fame. Now I'm just straight making that guaranteed money--like probably 40 mil. I'd probably birdman while I'm signing the new contract.

Don't tell me money isn't the most important thing here. It's the only thing.

Even though I don't know his medical history, I'd imagine he's had enough medical people tell him he's going to be fine. Oh, and since we already know he's signed with the Broncos, that team is stacked. Like way better than the Colts have been over the past 2-3 years.

just spent a while looking for relevant clips on youtube, but really it's any video that he's in, ever

birdman, not peyton

also, i still don't get why tebow didn't go to a florida team.

Lol, had I been in his spot, I think I would have bet 99 and realized I had no idea why I bet. I mean, he only beats 5x, 6x, 77, 88 right? Maybe you snap off a bluff w/ King high? So that sounds like a good argument for x/c? Especially given what's in your call down range, betting seems like suicide.

Just looking at how you played the hand, is your call down range only pp lower than Aces here? Idk, how often do you play Ax the way you played this hand? Do you differentiate and put in a raise with stronger Aces vs weaker Aces? Is this opponent specific?

Oh, if he had like KK-JJ, and the board came A T xxx (or some situation where BBB more likely makes a second best hand) then its an easier x/r b b the way he did right?

well i think checkraising 99 to begin with there is kinda bad. i guess if i did do it it would be expressly as a bluff. i'd play a fair bit of my Ax hands the same way here (the same way i played the JJ) - something like A9s is actually pretty similar to JJ - it's wa/wb in that i beat flush draws and most else, and lose to most of the Ax combos he has. and if i raise turn he folds a lot of stuff that might have barreled, or 3bets me with better stuff (or even 3bets flush draws, which would then be a disaster if i fold, but that's too much money going in now for my hand strength)

it's opponent specific a little bit but i'd guess i'm usually like AJ+ or AQ+ for turn value raises with my Ax hands in this spot

I think once he gets to the river the bet is probably better than check/calling, since his c/c lets me play really well vs him - valuebetting good stuff and checking back weak sd stuff that might have called if he had bet (i mean ideally from his point of view maybe he's making a video also, plays it this way, and i call down KQ high ((targeting the flush draws in his range)) and he owns me)

Ohhhhh guess who picked the right time to start watching LHE videos again!

why hello there

Wow nice fold with the rockets! I totally agree its a fold, I hope I would have made it myself but I'm not so sure.

PS. nice avatar

I think I wait for the turn with all my flushdraws, but from what I'm starting to see in other video's I don't think I'm right. The things that cross my mind right now are which hands to semibluff with (either the Ace high or smaller flush draws), when to x/r (either the flop or turn), whether board texture matters, and how do we balance our play (if our opponent is capable of noticing).

As for raising the smaller flush draws, we're targeting the King/Queen/Jack high hands and trying to get them to fold. Well, if anything folds we're happy. So it seems appropriate to semibluff right? As for the Ace high draws, we have have some showdown value, so we run into problems when we start folding out worse hands (whereas that might not be too bad if the pot is larger).

Here there's a paired board, and I think if we x/r the flop with the Ace high flush draw we don't realize the fold equity with regards to the better hands we are targeting. If we x/r the Ace high draw on the flop, then the preflop raiser/c-bettor pretty much never believes the flop x/r as trips and instantly thinks "flush draw." That's basically what you did right? So we don't get any made hands to fold, and probably get peeled light on the turn as well. Then do you continue firing the river? Just thinking about river actions, don't all worse hands fold, and only sometimes/rarely will we actually make a better hand fold?

I'm thinking if a King or Queen is on the flop [i.e. K84, Q97] by the time we hit the river maybe we get fourth pair to fold. Maybe a small pocket pair. I don't know if that happens as much on a 996xx flop. Thoughts?

As for picking between the flop and turn to semibluff, you're firing two barrel's right BBB? So then shouldn't we wait to raise the turn? Maybe that depends on whether the pfr'r auto two barrels and what if any scare cards force him to shut down on the turn.

Oh, and does all of this mean we have to wait for the turn with all of our value hands? (And assuming we're playing against someone who is a thinking "red chip" player). Do that mean we take our trips/strong pp's and wait to raise the turn with them as well?

I'm tired. I should have answered/responded two weeks ago to the other video. I'll try to do that tomorrow.

yeah that's the thing, with low flush draws you don't have showdown value, so you'll usually want to go on the attack to try to win the pot unimproved (or you can make a flush). with the ace high flush draw you often have showdown value and don't necessarily want to reopen the betting which means a better hand or a semibluff can pop you, and a worse hand can stop bluffing/fold

as far as balancing and whether you want to do your plays on the flop or the turn, that depends on your opponent, the board texture, and a lot of other stuff. if your opponent always 2barrels then it's fine to c/c c/r both made hands and draws some of the time imo. if your opponent doesn't bet the turn all that often you'll want to c/r the flop with both made hands and draws. and other important factors are things like how showdown bound is your opponent, what's your image, etc

looking at this again i prefer a flop bet for sure

Were you planning on folding at any time if raised? If your comfortable folding at some point I guess betting is probably good.

I think generally against an unknown in this spot I prefer a defensive line that let me gets to showdown the first time I see this play. Once we develop a read that his check is either weak/ace hi or a screwplay monster it becomes pretty easy to play against. I think players that take this line are extremely unbalanced and a sample size of 1 is probably enough to make an adjustment.

Time Link to 00:23:11

I don't think I like his river C/R. Your range is very weak at this point and I don't think you have many hands that will bluff when he checks or make a thin river value bet. Hands like KQ or 55 your just happy to check down and Ax/99+ and T9s type hands are generally just raising the turn.

The river is interesting because I imagine a lot of players defensive check their marginal made hands, but barrel a lot of their bluffs, making there range fairly bluff heavy.

Time Link to 00:54:26

(Discussion the left table) Lately I've playing the style of Ch/Calling most of my nut flush draws, but C/R my strongest ones like AK/AQ/AJ where I think they also have value unimproved. For example, in the hand with the 996FD board, I think C/R'ing a hand like AQdd is good. If we don't get raised again on the flop or the turn we probably have the best hand and can value bet a lot of rivers. If we hit an Ace or Queen we can consider bet/3-betting for value, and if he does have a strong hand we still have lots of equity.

I think C/R all our nut flush draws is probably bad. It hurts our call down range and doesn't allow us to have any flush draws in a flop Ch/C range.

With regards with the hand where villain C/R 99 on the Axx flop. I think his thought process probably was I'll C/R the flop and fold out most of his broadway hands that have reasonable equity against me either right away or on the turn and get some value from a few of his worse pairs.

I still think his play is probably pretty poor and I don't understand his river bet. Honestly, he can probably just Ch/Fold the river. I don't think anyone bluffs in button's shoes after seeing this line.

I guess the other possibility is he thought you were just a complete showdown monkey.

Were you planning on folding at any time if raised? If your comfortable folding at some point I guess betting is probably good.

I think generally against an unknown in this spot I prefer a defensive line that let me gets to showdown the first time I see this play. Once we develop a read that his check is either weak/ace hi or a screwplay monster it becomes pretty easy to play against. I think players that take this line are extremely unbalanced and a sample size of 1 is probably enough to make an adjustment.

I took the defensive line in the video, and then afterward was thinking about it and i don't really think you see monsters here too often at all (with the flop check line). i think i'm willing to risk getting raised one time, meaning i'm planning on getting to showdown if the board doesn't run off really grossly. i think since they're (imo) really polarized toward air, i can skew toward being sd bound the first time.

all that being said, i could certainly be being results oriented here