Time Link to 00:19:18
Great video.
In the J8 hand where you click it back, do you think there's any merit to 3betting bigger to price out his draws?
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Time Link to 00:19:18
Great video.
In the J8 hand where you click it back, do you think there's any merit to 3betting bigger to price out his draws?
Time Link to 00:33:32
You're betting 1/3 pot which means that your bluff has to be successful 25% of the time. What part of his range to you want to fold out? He has many queens like AQ,KQ,QJs,QTs, some Tx, KJs so only hands which will probably fold are AJs (2 combos), AJo (if he has any) and what more?
Thank for your responses.
Great video.
In the J8 hand where you click it back, do you think there's any merit to 3betting bigger to price out his draws?
Thanks man.
Nah I think CiB is best. What draws can he really have? I think his bluffing hands are mostly the Ax wheel draws and AJ which i really just think are folding pretty comfortably to the min 3b.
Time Link to 00:24:35
great video so far!
could you expand a bit on why you want to call with 75s vs this 4b? I see a few issues with it but i would like to hear you talk a little bit more in dept about it.
Thanks
Time Link to 00:19:22
I assume u clickback most of Qx and stronger hands here also? What abt draws?
Which river u r shipping if he calls turn and checks river and why?
Table 4
What's bottom of your calling range in that spot?
i def call 66, maybe 55 depending how he's playing
You're betting 1/3 pot which means that your bluff has to be successful 25% of the time. What part of his range to you want to fold out? He has many queens like AQ,KQ,QJs,QTs, some Tx, KJs so only hands which will probably fold are AJs (2 combos), AJo (if he has any) and what more?
Thank for your responses.
it sounds like people peel the min 4bet a lot more than you think. he can def have AJ, 97s, J8s, K9s, 99/88, A4s, etc etc. i realize we beat some of these hands, but in a 4b pot situation like this im just really happy taking the pot down right now.
great video so far!
could you expand a bit on why you want to call with 75s vs this 4b? I see a few issues with it but i would like to hear you talk a little bit more in dept about it.
Thanks
I've talked about this spot before in one of my ghost videos. It's a really complicated spot that I don't think anyone can be really sure about. But I'll post some food for thought below.
With a hand like 75s and are up against a range of TT+, AK:
Villain will flop < TP about half the time
On a flop like A82r he'll have an underpair about 61% of the time
And on a flop like Q83r he'll have no pair 37% of the time, and an underpair about 28% of the time
Also, a hand like 75s is pretty ideal since the A high flops are decent ones for us to attack, since as noted above, villain will usually have < TP and we'll just have air, potentially w/ some BD draws. Another thing to consider is that TT+, AK isn't his actual range..he'll also have some 4bet bluffs like KT, A4s, etc.
We need about 27% equity to continue here pf, and if you plug a 4b range into pokerstove, you'll see that we clearly do (even if we include zero bluffs). So the question is really are we making money or losing money postflop. And like I said before, I'm really not sure since it's such a complicated subject, but against people that I feel really comfortable playing against, I'm peeling here w/ a decent frequency w/ hands like this. Then of course I'll also be flatting AA/KK in this spot sometimes as well.
Table 1.
What r u doing if UTG (shorter) opens?
with AA?
I assume u clickback most of Qx and stronger hands here also? What abt draws?
Which river u r shipping if he calls turn and checks river and why?
No, im def not doing this w/ KQ or something. Also not doing it w/ legit draws like FDs or OESDs..that would be pretty terrible given that we're getting an awesome price IP and he's totally polarized to nuts/air here.
Oh and I'm not really planning on shipping any rivers since I really don't expect him to have any medium strength type hands that will continue vs my 3b.
Table 3.
R u betting small w TT, JJ? What abt AK?
Yeah def. I think in a vacuum checking TT/JJ can be good there vs this player tho fwiw.
Time Link to 00:07:37
I know this is a really general question but what is your 3 bet calling range IPO 100bb deep? 78s on the bottom right is definetley not in my calling range but what are your reasons for calling here? Do you need history with an opponent before calling with this sort of range?
Time Link to 00:08:06
I like seeing this bluff raise spot because I have been trying to work on having a bluff raising range when IPO in 3 bet pots. Here your value range is pretty much sets and slowplayed overpairs so I always assume that I am going to get played back at in these spots. What sort of board texture do you like making these type of plays on? Would you make the same raise size with all your value hands in this spot?
Time Link to 00:00:00
Sorry im bombarding you with questions but do you always just Pot your squeeze size when squeezing from the blinds? I usually just 4x it because It gives me a better price when I have weaker hands and I think has the same amount of fold equity
with AA?
Yes. Would u often just flat here? How often?
No, im def not doing this w/ KQ or something. Also not doing it w/ legit draws like FDs or OESDs..that would be pretty terrible given that we're getting an awesome price IP and he's totally polarized to nuts/air here.
Oh and I'm not really planning on shipping any rivers since I really don't expect him to have any medium strength type hands that will continue vs my 3b.
So, if some of ur opponents read this/saw video they can easily exploit u in similar spots?
Maybe I should deposit on merge ![]()
I know this is a really general question but what is your 3 bet calling range IPO 100bb deep? 78s on the bottom right is definetley not in my calling range but what are your reasons for calling here? Do you need history with an opponent before calling with this sort of range?
i mean that's def the bottom of my range there and im not always defending it. but when im minraising and he makes it 8x, im defending a good amt unless i think he's a tough player.
I like seeing this bluff raise spot because I have been trying to work on having a bluff raising range when IPO in 3 bet pots. Here your value range is pretty much sets and slowplayed overpairs so I always assume that I am going to get played back at in these spots. What sort of board texture do you like making these type of plays on? Would you make the same raise size with all your value hands in this spot?
yeah my value range also contains some 4xdd, A2dd/A5dd, 65dd. yeah i mean esp w/out history people just don't go too crazy on you on these types of boards imo. i just look for spots where his range is fairly wide and not much of it hit the board..it's also nice to be able to rep some draws that can be raise/getting it in cause then he can't just CiB on you cause you'll shove it in his face.
Sorry im bombarding you with questions but do you always just Pot your squeeze size when squeezing from the blinds? I usually just 4x it because It gives me a better price when I have weaker hands and I think has the same amount of fold equity
yeah you might be right that that sizing is better. people are just always suspicious of me because of my image so i try to make it a bit more expensive for them to mess around w/ me.
Yes. Would u often just flat here? How often?
yeah i honestly don't know..i might flat like half the time or so.
So, if some of ur opponents read this/saw video they can easily exploit u in similar spots?
Maybe I should deposit on merge
haha i suppose so. ur welcome in my games anytime ![]()
Nice video, but maybe a video without god run would be nice ![]()
And about the A7s hand.. I call the turn as well. There are like no sets/2ps in his range. JJ 4b a lot.. 22/33 fold.. you have 7 blocker so.. But I guess u should make a note of it
Are you thinking about checking hand like AJ+ in the future against him?
just started watching videos for the first time since black friday. seeing you play on merge makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. thanks for this, solid video/series.
Time Link to 00:39:38
I know the obvious first impression here is that he never does this with a jack, but there are a few really key factors at play here (first off let me admit that something like KQhh is in his range):
First of all, you would never ever stop betting any jack (top pair) or better on the turn given what the board is (and with your image, but even without that, you'd still bet) .... and I think this is very obvious to even a player thats not great at reading hands. I guess maybe sometimes you check a set but lets be realistic, sets are a small part of your range, and you probably don't do that often. So he can assume you don't ever have a jack beat with a very high level of confidence. Second, he saw you make that big shove with A6s and can see you 3betting like crazy (your stats are high on all of the tables I think, not sure if you realized that). Shoving in the A6s hand earlier might be normal for you given your opponents high 4bet%, but I assure you that more often than not players will A) not notice that your opponent had a high 4bet% (they might not even have the stats on the guy that you do) and B) may think you are prone to making big plays and calls cause they can't see *themselves* ever doing that.
A third consideration (something I was thinking about while I was pseudo tanking) is that he could be thinking that his stack size is awkward and if he chooses to bet anything he is forced to go with it and might as well just ship instead. If thats going through his mind then we need more info about him to know whether he'd just ship a hand like KQhh or take a free card. So we still have to include some of the pretty good draws ....... but the thing is even with a decent amount of those in his range we're nowhere near getting the right odds to call since this is an overbet... if he has just a few value hands he's crushing us miserably, and if he has a good draw he could have quite good equity.
I guess the reason in the end that I think this is a jack really often is just because of what I've seen throughout my own experience, especially against players that have demonstrated they're capable of making big / hero plays. I'm not so much ruling out the possibility of draws as I am increasing the weight of possible Jx hands, if that makes more sense. You probably don't have to include very many Jx combos at all before it becomes a fold with our poor pot odds.
Time Link to 00:46:54
on top left i thought this was the type of spot u advocated floating with two overs that he's likely to barrel and a bdfd, is the check fold player dependent because of his nitty stats altho over a small sample..therefore do u think it was still a call pre?
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