Time Link to 00:25:23
I felt like in button vs small blind nobody is going to fold a hand like 99, that why i decided not to bluff.
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Time Link to 00:25:23
I felt like in button vs small blind nobody is going to fold a hand like 99, that why i decided not to bluff.
Time Link to 00:29:47
Now it seems like doesn't have anything, so i'm just betting to take down the pot.
I felt like in button vs small blind nobody is going to fold a hand like 99, that why i decided not to bluff.
i feel like people usually fold to 3 barrels here-- if they don't, i'd just make a note and move on to it.
Andrew
Now it seems like doesn't have anything, so i'm just betting to take down the pot.
well, at this point there's not that much equity to collect (i.e. there's only one card left to come, you dominate all A's, etc etc).
It's not *terrible* to bet the turn there simply because the guy is giving up so often, but I think betting the flop with the intention of continuing is better than checking all the way down is better than checking back flop firing turn. but the last two are close, its true.
Andrew
Hey Andrew,
Just watched your video, took a ton of notes. Some of the stuff that RagequitPlease was doing is what I would do so I learnt heaps. I had a few questions about a couple of the hands.
1. You were saying that on the As6s that you'd bet/click it back with KJ hoping he then shoves in with JcTc. Are you worried about the extra combos of 66 the villian in villians range because you have no blockers? Would KJ play better as a chk behind and bluff catch if you think he might try to barrel us with a large % of his range? If not, is there a range of hands which would be good to bluff catch with?
2. In the hand where we have AQ on the K33Q4 board what do we do on the river if we have a mid pair?
Cheers,
Pete.
Time Link to 00:29:32
Q9s hand: kristy says u 3bet for value. what worse hands do we expect to get called by? do we 3bet Q9s every time here?
Is it out of the question that we can get some $ on merge or something and have kristy play?
Q9s hand: kristy says u 3bet for value. what worse hands do we expect to get called by? do we 3bet Q9s every time here?
he can call with JTs, whatever suited he wants to call
you also need to think postflop, even when he calls preflop with lets say AJs (and is obv ahead) and the board comes QJx we are likely to get more value than we would pay off when the board comes AQ4.
so even if preflop is thin, postflop we have edge and position which makes the thin 3bet preflop a +ev spot
@bw: wanna see the hand history with the 5bet bluff 250bb deep at nl100? :-)
@bw: wanna see the hand history with the 5bet bluff 250bb deep at nl100? :-)
This.
I would say that people at NL100 already got used to 5bet shipping things like A5s or pocket pairs.
Q9s hand: kristy says u 3bet for value. what worse hands do we expect to get called by? do we 3bet Q9s every time here?
the terminology is a little off-- its really a 2-way bet. we get value from things like suited connectors and can bluff him off of things like Ax or 33 postflop.
Andrew
This.
I would say that people at NL100 already got used to 5bet shipping things like A5s or pocket pairs.
i think you're crazy. and i have plenty of students at nl100 so i see the stakes regularly.
Andrew
Is it out of the question that we can get some $ on merge or something and have kristy play?
probably, but ill look into it
Andrew
probably, but ill look into it
Andrew
Okay cool, i like the series still but it was better imo when kristy could explain her reasoning for things and also she is aware of the gamy dynamics in that session. One more things please make some mid/high stakes online vids soon go to canada or something
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in general, if you could use the timestamps that'll help me find the spot. been a while since we recorded this
1) sure, not having blockers is worse. but, if our opponents range is only draws+bluffs+sets, we can pretty comfortably consider sets to be the rarest of them all. things only get tricky when our opponent can have K's as well. that said, there are so many draws there that it's almost def better to just click it back with KJ than to just flat and bluff catch, simply because A) our opponent won't necessarily bluff when he misses and B) we let him roll on the cheap to his outs. when your opponent has a lot of draws, its almost always better to raise now (unless your hand is pretty draw-proof and/or they bluff like crazy on later streets)
2) not sure where this hand is, link me?
Andrew
Hey Andrew,
Just watched your video, took a ton of notes. Some of the stuff that RagequitPlease was doing is what I would do so I learnt heaps. I had a few questions about a couple of the hands.
1. You were saying that on the As6s that you'd bet/click it back with KJ hoping he then shoves in with JcTc. Are you worried about the extra combos of 66 the villian in villians range because you have no blockers? Would KJ play better as a chk behind and bluff catch if you think he might try to barrel us with a large % of his range? If not, is there a range of hands which would be good to bluff catch with?
2. In the hand where we have AQ on the K33Q4 board what do we do on the river if we have a mid pair?
Cheers,
Pete.
depends how high our midpair is, only question is whether we bluff riv or not. wouldn't with TT, would with 44.
Andrew
Time Link to 00:50:40
Table#2 KT on J96r. Check/folding seems pretty weak given that we have a ton of equity and especially vs a halfpot stab from button against which we need around 50% folds if our jam gets called with us having 25% equity. If button is a stabby aggro fish I guess check/jamming is best and vs passive fish we bet flop and barrel AKQT87 turns (in both cases assuming sb folds)?
Table#2 KT on J96r. Check/folding seems pretty weak given that we have a ton of equity and especially vs a halfpot stab from button against which we need around 50% folds if our jam gets called with us having 25% equity. If button is a stabby aggro fish I guess check/jamming is best and vs passive fish we bet flop and barrel AKQT87 turns (in both cases assuming sb folds)?
its pretty borderline either way, i dont know how much FE we have vs the shortstacks bet (i'd assume passive), and obv in a 3 way pot our FE is way decreased.
that said, I think I usually bet there.
Andrew
Time Link to 00:10:35
i understand that K8s would be an excellent bluffspot against a REG who opens UTG, but why can be K8s a 3bet for value against this villain. I mean he just raises 8 %. I think his 3betcallingrange does crush us.
if we expect that QQ+,Aks,Ako would 4bet us than we play ca. aginst this range:
JJ-88,AQs-AJs,KJs+,AQo-AJo,KQo
and we just have about 34% equity aganst this 3betcalling range with K8s
Where is the mistake in my toughtprocess?
Time Link to 00:48:15
table #3 AQo on K33r, Qo, 4o
Without reads, I'd never expect a reg on these stakes to valuebet a worse hand on river. So what do you think about betting ~5-6$ here?
Time Link to 00:45:35
Is there any merit to donking the turn b/c there is now a flush draw? VIllain may read our bet as a semi-bluff and villain may peel with flush draws.
Should the idea that we also 100% prevent bluffs from this villain enter my head at all in this spot?
i understand that K8s would be an excellent bluffspot against a REG who opens UTG, but why can be K8s a 3bet for value against this villain. I mean he just raises 8 %. I think his 3betcallingrange does crush us.
if we expect that QQ+,Aks,Ako would 4bet us than we play ca. aginst this range:
JJ-88,AQs-AJs,KJs+,AQo-AJo,KQo
and we just have about 34% equity aganst this 3betcalling range with K8s
Where is the mistake in my toughtprocess?
+1
Time Link to 00:42:44
Would u 3 bet Mr. G w/ AQo if he openraises? He is a 14/7 so I guess he wouldnt call much worse like KQ AJ QJ If fish is folding. I assume he would 4bet or fold vs us most of the time and if he 4bets he has us crushed. So the value from your 3bet is comming from the fish that could call and then the nit has to come alonge with those weaker hand?
Would u 3 bet Mr. G w/ AQo if he openraises? He is a 14/7 so I guess he wouldnt call much worse like KQ AJ QJ If fish is folding. I assume he would 4bet or fold vs us most of the time and if he 4bets he has us crushed. So the value from your 3bet is comming from the fish that could call and then the nit has to come alonge with those weaker hand?
Ohh I see Vilian is not that nitty guy ![]()
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