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A Nightmare on 7th Street: Episode One

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A Nightmare on 7th Street: Episode One by Joe Tall

Joe Tall outlines the series and jumps right into Stud game structures, ante-stealing, and some basic odds to help you become a complete Stud Hi player.

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Joe Tall continues where he left off in his mix-game videos to bring you a comprehensive guide to Stud Hi. This full series is geared to turn you into a Stud player starting at the intermediate level.

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  • Game: mixed
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 35 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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AdriennesRevenge

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DeathDonkey

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Time Link to 00:15:27

re: discussion of getting reraised by the jack and just folding right there. Do you conclude that when you are the guy with the jack there that people don't really re-steal enough in that spot? You gave him a range of like split jacks and buried big pairs, but that's a pretty tiny range of hands overall. Seems like there is a ton of merit to reraising with the jack door and any small pair in the hole, and 3 clubs, or even like TJQr. Thoughts on this?

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DeathDonkey

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Ah should have watched more before commenting, but I do it as I go. You discuss when to play back at the jack next, and makes sense that we will have enough value hands that the jack can't just re-steal mercilessly without facing some consequences. So its just a feel / balance issue that requires some adjusting to the guy behind you.

That does make me think of another question, I assume I know the answer but you try to get seat positions at stud tables where the guy on your left is a straightforward / tight player? Does that have as much impact as at a LHE table?

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TecmoSuperBowl

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hahahaha Title + Intro ftw!

If the intro is this good, imagine what the content will be! Drooooollsss

Posted over 2 years ago

delcrossb

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This is really cool, I like a lot of the concepts. This has also potentially convinced me to stop playing 1-5 spread limit.

Posted over 2 years ago

Raist0000

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Sometimes i play in the stars 30/60 and certainly no one is folding a 3flush or a small pair or QJT when you try an obvious steal with an ace, but well that game is pretty loose aggressive.

Hmmm the video example QT8 with 7762 behind you, or the example 33A with J2 behind are pretty strong hands. I see them more as legitimate raising hands than ante steals. The A65 example was much better i think.

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delcrossb

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I think it might be helpful to include short handed strategy for 7 card stud in these videos. I am almost always playing 7CS six handed as part of a mixed game.

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Joe Tall

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I think it might be helpful to include short handed strategy for 7 card stud in these videos. I am almost always playing 7CS six handed as part of a mixed game.



I do plan on touching on that but it's not that difficult of an adjustment as Full-Short Hold'em. In fact, I gave you something really important to think about as an adjustment to be made for short handed in this video........

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Joe Tall

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That does make me think of another question, I assume I know the answer but you try to get seat positions at stud tables where the guy on your left is a straightforward / tight player? Does that have as much impact as at a LHE table?



3rd St is very important in Stud and seat selection is often overlooked. You know the answer! Pretty easy to think about the impact on a winrate of having loose/passive players to isolate on your right and tight/straight forward players on your left for 3rd street, over and over again.

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Joe Tall

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Hmmm the video example QT8 with 7762 behind you, or the example 33A with J2 behind are pretty strong hands. I see them more as legitimate raising hands than ante steals. The A65 example was much better i think.



Yeah, I had to be sorta careful where I drew up these simple examples. The series is meant to give a stud player some things to think about and some tools to add to their own game. Stud is massively situational, as you know, so there are no preflop-charts, etc. My goal is to give some of the concepts I have learned and developed, so that we all can continue to grow as stud players.

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Joe Tall...

I really like your video style. I thought the reference video slide was key , and i think you guys should do that alot more with holdem (LHE & NL) video series and with other game videos as well. Anyway rock on with Stud Hi.

Posted over 2 years ago

yeahthatsme

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Joe, is that best hand chart based on just any random hand or 8 handed likelyhood?

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Joe Tall

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Joe, is that best hand chart based on just any random hand or 8 handed likelyhood?



8 handed likelihood.

Posted over 2 years ago

kyotoisok

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what kind of winrates do good players have at midstakes in stud?

i see that ft and stars only seem to have 8handed + hu games, no 6max or less Frown

nice video, looking forward to watching more

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Joe:

Nice video. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the series.

Sarah

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i see that ft and stars only seem to have 8handed + hu games, no 6max or less Frown



Try the mixed games. Those can run 6 handed.

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Ok, I'm a Hold'em limidonk, so perhaps you can explain folding the [5h6h] As to a Jc re-raise again.

In LHE, if I steal light in the CO, I will ALWAYS have the odds to at least see a flop to a 3-bet from the BTN.

Here getting antes, bring-in + 5SB, don't I have the odds to at least see 4th street with our mediocre holding? Is it a function of us just drawing one card at a time? Can you go on a bit deeper on the RIO bit?

Thx.

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Joe Tall

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Ok, I'm a Hold'em limidonk, so perhaps you can explain folding the [5h6h] As to a Jc re-raise again.

In LHE, if I steal light in the CO, I will ALWAYS have the odds to at least see a flop to a 3-bet from the BTN.

Here getting antes, bring-in + 5SB, don't I have the odds to at least see 4th street with our mediocre holding? Is it a function of us just drawing one card at a time? Can you go on a bit deeper on the RIO bit?

Thx.



Episode 2 will be out in another week, and I will bring what you need for this, you basically outlined my plan!

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I completed 37Ar on a steal and folded to a raise. It felt strange, but good. I think I sealed a leak. Thanks Joe.

Posted over 2 years ago

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When this season was announced, I understood this series would start a couple weeks later, but otherwise like all the other ones in a weekly fashion. Since last week there was only a tool time vid and today I keep hitting the refresh button without success, am I mistaken?

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Joe Tall

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When this season was announced, I understood this series would start a couple weeks later, but otherwise like all the other ones in a weekly fashion. Since last week there was only a tool time vid and today I keep hitting the refresh button without success, am I mistaken?



Sorry about this, I'm actually busy working on Episode 2 right now and I put up a thread last night: http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/13-Videos/27135-Nightmare-on-7th-Street-d

I had to adjust my schedule as I'm busy with many projects in order to maintain the high quality content. What I plan on doing is an episode every other week at this time.

Posted over 2 years ago

Easy Squeezy

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I am new to stud and must say that I am pretty excited to see a full video series on stud hi only. I was even more excited when you said that plans include all the HORSE games at some point because I hope to learn them all.

You definitely included concepts here that I had not read/heard before and I appreciate that...especially the chart of average top hands.

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