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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by KRANTZ (High Stakes)

ghey.. vid wont load at the campus i'm in..

Time Link to 00:43:59

i am thinking of trying out the BvMcb stat.
which stat is that exactly ?? bet vs missed flop cbet oop ??

4st!

oh ship it

Is this worth watching for someone who hasn't seen series 1 and 2 or should I start with series 1 and go from there?

Is this worth watching for someone who hasn't seen series 1 and 2 or should I start with series 1 and go from there?

you could start with this and go back. there's a lot of great stuff in the previous two series that we won't cover here, but we're designing this so if you haven't watched either of them you'll still be able to understand it and get a lot out of it.

Time Link to 00:39:21

Is it possible to download your hud?

i am thinking of trying out the BvMcb stat.
which stat is that exactly ?? bet vs missed flop cbet oop ??

yep thats it

Is it possible to download your hud?

http://plusevpoker.com/default.xml

Be sure to right click/save as or if you click the link, save it as xml.

Also be careful when you import it because it will overwrite your "default" configuration (it's my default). So if you have a default config you want to keep, be sure to export it first so you have a back up.

Mega Man analogies are brilliant. I think this is a breakthrough in poker training - putting things in relate-able terms like 80's video games!

Great start - can't wait for more vids.

Is their a difference between weak/tight and tight passive or am I just using a different label name for the same player type?

I think I meant, whats the difference between weak/tight and tight passive or are they they same

Mostly the same although you could differentiate based on their vpip in or oop. So you could have a guy who plays loose/passive or tight/passive. The tight/passive guy might be also called "weak/tight" however we can't really apply that to someone who plays every hand and plays them passively... so instead we'd just say loose/passive.

But yea tight/passive and weak/tight are basically the same.

Hey whats up WoT, can you post the graphs for the stats of different player types (time: 14:30). I want to glue them to my desktop... So glad you guys did this series

Time Link to 00:23:48

Also these opening hand ranges.

Time Link to 00:27:53

And these. Haha, sorry but I am about to start playing HU and know basically nothing about starting ranges

as usual top notch fellas...been well worth the wait.

kgbmiked, here you go:

Hand Charts:
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/3bet.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/3x-defend.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/minr-defend.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/open-exp.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/open-noob.png

Sexy MS-Paint Floating Bar graphs
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/3bet-graph.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/checkraise.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/steal.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/vpip in bb.png

Hud down load doesn't seem to be working.

Hud down load doesn't seem to be working.

Right click on the HUD link and hit "Save As"

http://plusevpoker.com/default.xml

Be sure to right click/save as or if you click the link, save it as xml.

Also be careful when you import it because it will overwrite your "default" configuration (it's my default). So if you have a default config you want to keep, be sure to export it first so you have a back up.

Will it overwrite the default configuration for just the HU HUD? In other words, HEM separates your HU HUD from your 6max/Full Ring HUD, right?

Oh, and like everyone else, really looking forward to this series. Great job guys.

Omg they're back!

This is going to sound real lame, but would you mind uploading the HUD as something other than "default"?

This series looks awesome. Love the range-graphs for player types. Comparing this to PR 1 and 2 is going to be like comparing HEM to Pokertracker 2.

OMG.My favorite series is back. Thank you guys !!!

Will it overwrite the default configuration for just the HU HUD? In other words, HEM separates your HU HUD from your 6max/Full Ring HUD, right?

sorry i have no idea. back up your stuff to be safe

This is going to sound real lame, but would you mind uploading the HUD as something other than "default"?

This series looks awesome. Love the range-graphs for player types. Comparing this to PR 1 and 2 is going to be like comparing HEM to Pokertracker 2.

maybe someone who is a hem ninja can hook everyone up with this. i have no idea how to do it

Excellent! So stoked If you need someone for live play during this series, I'm available!

Hi, I edited the HUD to WoT.xml

so its safe to import, unless u have a layout called "WoT" lol

Link: http://www.itminfo.com/WoT.xml
Right click.. save as


Thx for this amazing stuff,

Hi, I edited the HUD to WoT.xml

so its safe to import, unless u have a layout called "WoT" lol

Link: http://www.itminfo.com/WoT.xml
Right click.. save as


Thx for this amazing stuff,

Thanks buddy

Anyone else find it annoying that certain people seems to sit just to try to steal your initial blind or 3bet your first open and then immediately sit out? I feel like some people are ridiculous enough to be doing that on purpose.

I don't know how often this is happening to other people, but it's happened to me more than a few times. It's not really a big deal but I wish more people would post a ptr comment about that stuff when it happens.

I'm very glad to see continuation of this series. Have some qeustions.
1. do you open 70-80% from SB vs loose/passive guys. I just don't ideate how it can be possible to play lowest ~20% of 80% open range gainfully.
2. same vs lags and maniacs who 3bet relentlessly. do you open same 70-80% but minraising or tight your open range?
3. when I play my 1st hand vs regs/lags they 3bet very often and if I 4bet they often snap call, so maybe it make sense to wide 4bet for value in 1st hands of matches? it seems to me that without any reads it's better to play with initiative then to call 3bet with wide range and try to outplay on postflop. and when I just fold it looks like I spend much money just raising/folding in that situations

great start, really looking forward to the remainder of this.

Glad to hear about making this also a shorthanded series rather than just heads up. I'm like a deer in the headlights when I have like queen eight suited or TJ off and I'm in the big blind facing a button raise in a 6 max game from a tight 30% button stealer or a laggy hijack. But these ranges happen in heads up also. I'm fairly certain I leak money when the button raises just 50% by defending too loose out of habit, and then there are the button limpers who only raise 10-40% of buttons - a six max player is more used to dealing with these tight ranges, although a heads up specialist is better able to figure out how these ranges change dynamically based on game flow.

Epic Megaman and pirate ship illustration.

Pawn!

Heads up is dying. Please stop trying to finish her off.

Heads up is dying. Please stop trying to finish her off.

Ship builders need not apply.

Ship sinkers, right this way for your cannon balls and gun powder

Anyone else find it annoying that certain people seems to sit just to try to steal your initial blind or 3bet your first open and then immediately sit out? I feel like some people are ridiculous enough to be doing that on purpose.

I don't know how often this is happening to other people, but it's happened to me more than a few times. It's not really a big deal but I wish more people would post a ptr comment about that stuff when it happens.

Yes it is super annoying but it's part of the game we have to deal with. The sooner you can get yourself immune to being tilted by it and the other forms of hit and running, the better you will be.

I'm not saying that I don't ever get irritated when I get hit and run...i do, but the pain is less over time.

Part of the adjustment to this is to be more cally in the first several hands of the match.

Ship builders need not apply.

Ship sinkers, right this way for your cannon balls and gun powder

haha love it!

I'm very glad to see continuation of this series. Have some qeustions.
1. do you open 70-80% from SB vs loose/passive guys. I just don't ideate how it can be possible to play lowest ~20% of 80% open range gainfully.
2. same vs lags and maniacs who 3bet relentlessly. do you open same 70-80% but minraising or tight your open range?
3. when I play my 1st hand vs regs/lags they 3bet very often and if I 4bet they often snap call, so maybe it make sense to wide 4bet for value in 1st hands of matches? it seems to me that without any reads it's better to play with initiative then to call 3bet with wide range and try to outplay on postflop. and when I just fold it looks like I spend much money just raising/folding in that situations

Good and valid questions, let me try to answer the best I can.

1. We need more info to answer well. It's tempting to say something like "these guys play every hand, how can i profit raising J5o vs them?" and I understand the frustration, but look to his postflop stats. Many of these guys who play like 65 vpip oop might call a lot of flops really wide but they are forced to play more straight up on the turn. I mean, heck, if you are going to peel every 56o on 98Kr, there just aren't a lot of ways you can call the turn (and ofc many more similar examples). 2 barreling becomes super profitable vs these guys even if it seems like they never fold (flops). This is an area where a lot of people leak, they want to try to open a lot of buttons but they don't think past the cbet. Alternatively, some of these guys just play too fit or fold to begin with. Maybe they start with 65% of hands but they are only looking to continue with pairs and good draws. Now your preflop steal + flop cbet is just printing $. In short, try to look at the whole picture to judge profitability and not just the isolated stat.

2. Similar answer but now different consideration. We're opening 3x 80%, what's his vpip in bb? if it's like 33 we're still profiting. Similar consideration for the minraise. More importantly, how is he playing postflop? How balanced is his cbet range? his checking range? Is he just firing once then giving up a lot? Is he 2 barreling and giving up a lot? Is he going bananas? How does he react to 4bets? These are all questions I'd want to try to get answers for to know how wide I can be opening. You can absolutely still open 90% vs a guy who 3bets 28% provided you get a the schematics of his ship. SINK HIM!!!

3. "First Time" dynamics are interesting and hard reg on reg. Definitely some levelling going on with first hand, first 3bet, first 4bet, first donk, first checkraise, etc. There is no easy answer here unfortunately, but I think your adjustment is my natural inclination as well. Early in the match, just be way more inclined to get to showdown both for future reads and because people go nuts early in the match trying to be the boss and take control.

We need a Prequel to Pr1nnyraiding!

We need a Prequel to Pr1nnyraiding!

What would you like to see in a prequel?

Ship builders need not apply.

Ship sinkers, right this way for your cannon balls and gun powder

I was in a sub. Now DC is draining the water from the ocean.

[quote]I was in a sub. Now DC is draining the water from the ocean.

If poker ignorance is your water, the lake is slowly draining, and that's just a fact of poker.You're always going to find deep water in the microstakes, but further you go out in stakes, the shallower the water is going to get. If you got caught on a sandbar because you never figured out how to make a boat that can maneuver in shallow water, maybe it's time to put down the wamburger and french cries, and start building a solid boat (they teach you how to do that here). If all the water dries up, that doesn't mean that poker is dead, it just means that high stakes will be playing old school twisted metal instead of battleship. I think this series is going to be awesome and I love the aggressive mentality here. Maybe in season 4 you guys can start talking about tires and NOS.

I was in a sub. Now DC is draining the water from the ocean.

Just because great HU information is put out doesn't mean you can't profit. It's still up to the player to study and integrate the information better than his opponents, and to apply it better when it counts - at the table. Further, like Haseeb said in Dog is Heads Up, they can teach you as best they can, but at the end of the day it's up to you to put in the work to build your own ship (or these days to build your own ship destroyer).

[quote][quote]I was in a sub. Now DC is draining the water from the ocean.

I think this series is going to be awesome .[/quote]

Of course it is. Badugi here I come.

Just because great HU information is put out doesn't mean you can't profit. It's still up to the player to study and integrate the information better than his opponents, and to apply it better when it counts - at the table. Further, like Haseeb said in Dog is Heads Up, they can teach you as best they can, but at the end of the day it's up to you to put in the work to build your own ship (or these days to build your own ship destroyer).

Also many ppl interpret the logic behind these lessons incorrectly and end up playing very exploitably or spewy

Saying poker of any kind is dead because of the information available now is stupid. Look at chess. You can find everything analysed to the upteenth degree and get tonnes of training and coaching. You still have to be able to sit across from somebody and be able to use that information better than they do.

http://plusevpoker.com/default.xml

Be sure to right click/save as or if you click the link, save it as xml.

Also be careful when you import it because it will overwrite your "default" configuration (it's my default). So if you have a default config you want to keep, be sure to export it first so you have a back up.

Would you want to upload your 6 Max HUD? Old computer crashed so I have to redo my HUD's on a new computer...

hey kgbmiked, here's my 6max hud. i think its a good start but it could use some work though so feel free to modify it as you see fit. I've been meaning to go back over it and look for some additional stats to use or revamp the popup window (i'm not sure how to do it yet).

http://plusevpoker.com/sixmax.xml

hey kgbmiked, here's my 6max hud. i think its a good start but it could use some work though so feel free to modify it as you see fit. I've been meaning to go back over it and look for some additional stats to use or revamp the popup window (i'm not sure how to do it yet).

http://plusevpoker.com/sixmax.xml

Thanks a lot, let me know if you need help with figuring the popup out, I'd be glad to show you.

Time Link to 00:32:24

I have a question about your 3bet defense ranges. I noticed (the one for normal open anyway) that your 3bet value range is 10% and your 3bet bluff range is 5%. Did you make this 2 to 1 on purpose? And if so why? And do you also balance your calling range in some way or does it matter? What I mean by that is do you want your 3bet bluff : 3bet value : call to be 5 : 10 : 20 as it roughly is here or would it be okay if it was 5 : 10 : 15 or 25? I hope that made sense.

Having the 3bet range be 2:1 value:bluff is good as a starting spot but vs each opponent you should look for ways to better shift it either to be more value heavy (thinner value) or bluff heavy depending on how much he is defending.

Similar for the 3Bet defense range where we flex our strategy based on his. These examples are just a default starting point

Great vid guys, Airman is a better example than woodman imo

Time Link to 00:07:47

Besides showdown at buffalo ridge what other buffalo series did you do wilt?

Would you say that, generally, the more passive your opponent the more hands you can play out of the bb?

Besides showdown at buffalo ridge what other buffalo series did you do wilt?

where the buffalo roam

Would you say that, generally, the more passive your opponent the more hands you can play out of the bb?

yes definitely, if you can realize your equity more often, then it makes sense to play more hands

kgbmiked, here you go:

Hand Charts:
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/3bet.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/3x-defend.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/minr-defend.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/open-exp.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/open-noob.png

Sexy MS-Paint Floating Bar graphs
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/3bet-graph.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/checkraise.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/steal.png
http://www.plusevpoker.com/prinny3/vpip in bb.png

These links no longer work. Do you have another link, or did anyone save them and can repost?

Time Link to 00:29:41

With respect to the minraise strategy ......... yes our opponent might be profiting immediately from the open preflop (if we fold more than 50%), but thats just preflop and I don't think its a big concern. The reason I want to point this out is because I think too many people these days get caught up in a particular play 'exploiting' them without considering how things play out in the whole hand or even the whole session. For example let's say we check our database and see that we fold to small check raises too often and our opponent's are "immediately" profiting from that.... when most people see that, they get really uncomfortable and think "how do I stop him from making money off me, I'm leaking". Well the thing is, there's more to it than that... your check raise might make a small profit against me, but when I do call that check raise from you I'm making a lot of money because you play poorly after that point... so the net result is that I'm winning. In fact you can build a profitable strategy around making a slightly -EV play because it causes your opponents to adjust poorly. For example playing really loose poker can make weaker players get out of line and make very stupid bluffs against you.... its not that your loose style is unexploitable, in fact it is quite exploitable, its just that your opponents are not adjusting well to it (which is what matters).

That said, obviously you want to defend wider to a minraise, but my philosophy is always to think of the bigger picture, much of which is postflop (or sometimes metagame for longer HU matches).

you make some good points, but a small leak that is repeated every single hand is no longer a small leak in the big picture

Hey I echo the post re: the hand range charts etc... could we please get these re-posted?

Bump. Would really be fantastic if we could get the charts please Wilt?

Bump. Would really be fantastic if we could get the charts please Wilt?

try this

http://membervideos.deucescracked.com/WiltOnTilt/14862/pr1nny3%20images.zip

Fantastic,

Thanks a lot Wilt

http://plusevpoker.com/default.xml

Be sure to right click/save as or if you click the link, save it as xml.

Also be careful when you import it because it will overwrite your "default" configuration (it's my default). So if you have a default config you want to keep, be sure to export it first so you have a back up.

The link doesnt work, is it possible to get your HM2 hud?

The link doesnt work, is it possible to get your HM2 hud?

i still haven't fully configured HEM2 but here's what I have so far:

http://membervideos.deucescracked.com/WiltOnTilt/14982/default-hem2.xml

yeah I see, it looks like the imported HUD from HM1, Im changing it to a good HM2 hud, because some stats like 4bet stats are not working for HM2. And the size of the stats is to small. If you want I can send it to you when it's finished, because I don't know how to make a link with the HUD like you did.

ya i just noticed that a lot of these stats dont work. really irritating

To what can I send the file, because here at DC I cant send attachments

Anyone got a link for HEM 2 hud?