n0whereman
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Jason I am just curious (and because I respect your opinion): if you had to pick one diet book that best encapsulated your thoughts on what a good and balanced diet is for general living?
I'm not really sure tbh. I'd have to look over a few to really know what's in them. FWIW my general eating strategy (the one I follow at least) is pretty simple:
- Eat stuff that was alive (meat, fruit, veggies, dairy, nuts)
- Stick to the outer ring of the grocery store (generally follows the first point) with the possible exception of frozen versions of products from the first point
- Eat as little processed food as possible
- If you run/work out a lot, eat rice/oatmeal - you won't die
- When you do eat processed/bad food, do it right, enjoy it, DO NOT DWELL ON IT, and move on. In other words, if you're going to eat a dessert, don't eat low-carb ice cream or paleo brownies or whatever. Eat goddamn pot de creme or something.
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CDA
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- When you do eat processed/bad food, do it right, enjoy it, DO NOT DWELL ON IT, and move on. In other words, if you're going to eat a dessert, don't eat low-carb ice cream or paleo brownies or whatever. Eat goddamn pot de creme or something.
Amen. I saw whole grain baked donuts at a coffee shop the other day. Why in God's name?!?! Healthy junk-food?...I just don't get it...you're doing it wrong!
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DeathDonkey
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there are 4 types of fat. 2 good and 2 bad. The good fats are mono & polyunsaturated fats, the bad are trans and saturated fats. Mono & Poly are very good for the body and are drastically less likely to be stored as actual fat with the body.
The FDA food pyramid is not exactly the gold standard anymore
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Acombfosho
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I agree with low carb high fat diet, it makes a lot of sense to eat as much as we can the same types of foods eat ate and evolved eating over millions of years. (meat, fruit, veggies, dairy, nuts)
What is astounding to me is how can the NHS have it so wrong? http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/1124.aspx?CategoryID=51&SubCategoryID=167
Is it basically a myth put out by processed food companies? Who has funded most of these studies that say high saturated fat is bad? I'm sure there's a conspiracy in there some where
and boy do I love a good conspiracy theory!
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n0whereman
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I agree with low carb high fat diet, it makes a lot of sense to eat as much as we can the same types of foods eat ate and evolved eating over millions of years. (meat, fruit, veggies, dairy, nuts)
What is astounding to me is how can the NHS have it so wrong? http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/1124.aspx?CategoryID=51&SubCategoryID=167
Is it basically a myth put out by processed food companies? Who has funded most of these studies that say high saturated fat is bad? I'm sure there's a conspiracy in there some where
and boy do I love a good conspiracy theory!
Most of this is based off of one terrible study done in the 50s or 60s. Since it was a landmark study that basically everyone on earth bought into at the time, it's had a very difficult time subsequently escaping the nutrition community.
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Acombfosho
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How well do you think a bulgogi/kimichi diet would do for losing weight?
They're both everywhere here and its quite nice tasting (at first I hated it, but now im much more used to the spices) plus it's cheap as hell. My gut has come back since moving here, so if i cut carbs (beer) would these be my go to foods?
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Tuneman07
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If you want to lose weight calories are all that really matter, read about the twinkie diet guy- the dude ate nothing but twinkies and lost like 50 lbs lol.
Avocado FTW, I wish I were an Avocado, but if you are what you eat I will be one soon. I can only hope...
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nawhead
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bulgogi has a lot of sugar and soy sauce. i'm trying to avoid most marinated meats like this nowadays since i seem to react more to soy now.
as far as kimchi, i don't know why people think it's health food (well i do know why but i disagree). it's basically spicy pickles. and chili peppers only entered the human diet very recently, but it's good if you have constipation imo. and there's possibly a link to some cancer in large amounts, but there's a need for clinical trials.
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/may/21/world/fg-kimchi21
http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v101/n9/full/6605372a.html
so even tho asian foods have the reputation of being healthier (cause asian people are skinny/smaller than westerners, etc.), i think these foods get far more credit than they deserve.
Is it basically a myth put out by processed food companies? Who has funded most of these studies that say high saturated fat is bad? I'm sure there's a conspiracy in there some where
and boy do I love a good conspiracy theory!
it's a theory that became common knowledge that became a belief. you only need to accept that our minds find it very difficult to discard old beliefs. no conspiracy needed. 
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nawhead
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- When you do eat processed/bad food, do it right, enjoy it, DO NOT DWELL ON IT, and move on. In other words, if you're going to eat a dessert, don't eat low-carb ice cream or paleo brownies or whatever. Eat goddamn pot de creme or something.
amen +2
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DeathDonkey
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If you want to lose weight calories are all that really matter, read about the twinkie diet guy- the dude ate nothing but twinkies and lost like 50 lbs lol.
Avocado FTW, I wish I were an Avocado, but if you are what you eat I will be one soon. I can only hope...
Sure but there is a diff between losing weight and being healthy.
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DeathDonkey
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Also, how bad is beer really? What should I be limiting to. Is it just a no go? Any alternatives?
It's pretty bad mostly because people drink a lot of it at a time, I think if you drink it in moderation its no big deal at all, but if you have to drink alcohol you'd still be better off with liquors not mixed with sugary drinks (say gin and tonic compared to rum and coke)
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nawhead
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If you want to lose weight calories are all that really matter, read about the twinkie diet guy- the dude ate nothing but twinkies and lost like 50 lbs lol.
clinical trials (biased ones at that) of low fat and high fat diets show similar weight loss if the low fat camp restricts calories. but when you restrict calories like this (Twinkie diet was a calorie restricted diet), you will get hungry and not be able to eat. you can lose weight, but you don't feel well doing it, and probably don't want to keep doing it for the rest of your life.
LCHF is not a weight-loss fad imo. it's a way to enjoy eating and maintaining health long-term.
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pavman
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I was looking at the point made a few days ago about people in Asian nations being generally skinny and eating a load of rice in their diet.
If people in the poorest regions of Asia are primarily eating rice why aren't we seeing an obesity epidemic? Similar to when native Americans were put into the reservations and had to live off US government grain.
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