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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by sthief09 (Micro/Small Stakes)

I see yours logic in call turn and bluff river when checked to sthief, but I asume if you call turn, you're always calling a river shove getting 2:1?

Thanks..

I usually don't like to do this, but my gut says that he won't bluff the river. My first thought was that the turn pairing would make him think that he could chase us off mediocre 1 pair hands, possibly including TP. our turn call should be pretty strong and we'll be getting pretty good pot odds against a river shove. if he bets a river undercard it feels strong to me.

lots of assumptions there. it's dicey.

Something to consider doing here is min betting ...... I know it sounds horribly fishy but that's kind of the point. You might get marked as a fish instantly by some people which is of huge value to you later. Also, you really don't expect to get money from this hand unless he spazs out, and you aren't worried about any rivers, so your bet size isn't really of critical importance here. Min bets piss some people off and theyll randomly check raise you here to some stupidly small amount like $20 which is great for us... more value plus some metagame / image benefits.

I remember lolotrickedu, who won millions and millions pre-UIGEA, would occasionally minbet but iirc he did it out of position. my only point is that it's good to try things out like this. just because no one else does it doesn't make it wrong. it's not something I do but thanks for the idea. I may play around with it in spots like this. it has a lot of the same merits as betting 1/4 pot.

I never went anywhere

I try to have as wide a target audience as possible. I'm not sure how the stakes will vary for the series yet, but usually they tend to span 25NL-200NL, maybe 10NL as that seems to be a popular game among members on the forums.

Cool. How is this series going to be different then Search and destroy? I see you are going to analyze databases and do hand reviews.

haha I must have been away then. I thought it was a while ago since you made a series. Search and destroy the latest one.

I usually don't like to do this, but my gut says that he won't bluff the river. My first thought was that the turn pairing would make him think that he could chase us off mediocre 1 pair hands, possibly including TP. our turn call should be pretty strong and we'll be getting pretty good pot odds against a river shove. if he bets a river undercard it feels strong to me.

lots of assumptions there. it's dicey.

Under which assumptions you thinks that he won't bluff river? To me in Villians shoes, it's a pretty good spot to 3br All-in epecially if we are inknown to eachother. He also seems pretty agro OTR and WTSD is 24% not that high.

Thanks..

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I like the shove, because it protects heros equity and denying Villian to make a correct call OTT and correct fold OTR.

Firsthand (AQs):
agree with those who said that checking back is best.
I just think it is best for maybe your actual range (if you flat pre sometimes KK and hands like 99, TT) and also for your perceived range which should include often the mentioned hands when you check back OTT.
The thing is that you have perceived no air by taking your choosen line and hence you cannot rly got called by worse...

Alternatively, you can underbet to protect your PotEQ like Josh has adviced.
But technically it is imo pretty clear that a xb OTT is >>> all and certainly much better than a jam.


@preflop:
It is not a spot where you can check his average SQZ-stats and go from there b/c with those posis most ppl certainly do not sqz light.
Also there is still a coldcaller behind you who will in a decent %-tage have a hand to backjam over (depending on your tendencies).
I know AQs is a beautiful hand to call, but imo not in this spot -> when you think you get eough folds combined with you EQ, then I would jam here - otherwise a fold is weak, but with those posis imo legit...

Firsthand (AQs):
agree with those who said that checking back is best.
I just think it is best for maybe your actual range (if you flat pre sometimes KK and hands like 99, TT) and also for your perceived range which should include often the mentioned hands when you check back OTT.
The thing is that you have perceived no air by taking your choosen line and hence you cannot rly got called by worse...



Alternatively, you can underbet to protect your PotEQ like Josh has adviced.
But technically it is imo pretty clear that a xb OTT is >>> all and certainly much better than a jam.

I wonder if this is a spot where we can even bet something like 5 or 10% pot.

@preflop:
It is not a spot where you can check his average SQZ-stats and go from there b/c with those posis most ppl certainly do not sqz light.
Also there is still a coldcaller behind you who will in a decent %-tage have a hand to backjam over (depending on your tendencies).
I know AQs is a beautiful hand to call, but imo not in this spot -> when you think you get eough folds combined with you EQ, then I would jam here - otherwise a fold is weak, but with those posis imo legit...

yeah I think you're absolutely correct.

I wonder if this is a spot where we can even bet something like 5 or 10% pot.

yeah,
I rly think that this is such a spot b/c Villain cannot do much bout it (we have perceived overall a pretty strong range there) and it is hard in this spot to get value anyways, once he checked...

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Could you explain this comment: "He's lost the ability to bluff so I don't think he's making any thin value bets"

When turn goes check/check and we check the river does that not invite thin value bet us? We kind of don't have many very strong hands in our check/call flop check turn check river range. I'd imagine this invites both bluffs and thin value bets since villain will consider himself rarely behind.

Am I misreading the situation?

Could you explain this comment: "He's lost the ability to bluff so I don't think he's making any thin value bets"

When turn goes check/check and we check the river does that not invite thin value bet us? We kind of don't have many very strong hands in our check/call flop check turn check river range. I'd imagine this invites both bluffs and thin value bets since villain will consider himself rarely behind.

Am I misreading the situation?

Well maybe it's presumptuous of me to say that. The reality is we don't have any specific reads. There's always the possibility that villain tries to level hero ("he knows that I shouldn't bluff so I'm going to") but I doubt it. He should expect to get looked up.

I guess it depends how thin is thin. I wouldn't consider KJ to be a thin value bet. maybe QQ can make a thin value bet. Anything worse is probably value cutting itself. It's not an attractive spot to bluff because hero's range is pretty clearly defined as something with showdown value and villain's range is mostly capped around those very same hands. I think in theory, his overall bet% should be low mostly because of his range.

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What do you guys think about overbet on the flop? like 30. i mean i just dont see this guy folding any pair/draw to just one bet.... so i think this would do the trick )

What do you guys think about overbet on the flop? like 30. i mean i just dont see this guy folding any pair/draw to just one bet.... so i think this would do the trick )

I would be ok with overbetting if the SPR were a bit deeper and pot-pot-pot couldn't get us all-in. I'd also prefer doing it with AT or T9 since we have blockers to top or 2nd pair.