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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by whitelime (Mid Stakes)

great old school vid! this guy is a class act.

whitelime,

Can you comment on your standard bet sizing in single raised pots?

You were mainly c-betting $10 on the flop and $28 on the turn, even on very dry boards. Most other coaches I've seen use 1/2 pot or 2/3 pot sizing like $8 -> $22, or $8 -> $24.

Do you have any particular reasons for c-betting larger than what I would consider "standard" at these stakes?

Cool video btw

Thanks

From a GTO perspective, you'd want to vary it based on stack to pot ratios and how draw heavy the board is. However, depending on the opponent, there are other considerations as well. You might be playing a really stationy fish. Maybe you're playing a guy who isn't adjusting to you c-betting smaller amounts and is still folding the same amount. There are a lot of things to think about when considering bet size. This match didn't go on long enough for me to start varying bet sizes to see how he'd react. I was more focused on trying to figure out if he was a total psycho based on how aggro he was early on and how I was going to combat that.

Yes, but we can represent all sorts of other made hands here.

what other made hands check turn/bet river?

'luke, i am your father'

heh, nice vid and v good discussion but keep the mic a bit further from your mouth

what other made hands check turn/bet river?

I don't think it's unreasonable to go for a c/r or c-c w/ either flush draw on the turn. If you bet and get raised, it really sucks as calling and folding are very close in EV. With that said, I would normally still be betting these on the turn way more often than not. Other than that, it's really just a Kx suited type hand or KJ/KQ (which I would normally c/c but c/r against him b/c of his barreling frequency).

On the flipside, I have very few bluffs too. Probably just A2-A6. I think it's really close between bluffing this and c/f. I'm pretty sure I bluff 67 but it gets close w/ J7.

Other than that, it's really just a Kx suited type hand or KJ/KQ (which I would normally c/c but c/r against him b/c of his barreling frequency).

Can you talk about this some more? I think that I would c/r these K high overs+ gutter against most opponents as a default. Are you planning on trying to get to showdown with K high, and having more disguised outs/them barreling the cards that make your hand?

Vs someone that is only 2barreling 50% you're opting to c/c instead?

What kind of equity do you need against his range to make a call on the turn here profitable? Assuming he's 2barreling all the flush draws, oesds, some overs as well as his made hands. Given how the match is going now, how often is he going to complete a 3 barrel bluff on missed draws/bad bluff cards. I feel that there are too many river cards that we'll have to fold to if we call the turn.

Do you think a river brick is more of a reason to fold to a 3rd barrel than say a card that will complete draws, given these current game/opponent dynamics?

Thought I'd repost, you probably missed it.
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Can you talk about this some more? I think that I would c/r these K high overs+ gutter against most opponents as a default. Are you planning on trying to get to showdown with K high, and having more disguised outs/them barreling the cards that make your hand?

Vs someone that is only 2barreling 50% you're opting to c/c instead?

Most players are content to check A high on that board texture so if they bet, we either have them beat w/ KJ/KQ, or they have a hand that will continue against a c/r. I'd c/r only against excessive c-bettors or double barrelers.

Thought I'd repost, you probably missed it.
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Middle pair is more than good enough to call the turn against almost anyone on this board texture. The thing about the river is you're going to just have to close your eyes and call, even if a flush making card comes. You'll be getting a price from the pot and even if he has us beat more often than not, we should win more than the 25-30% we have to to make calling profitable.

Excellent point! Thanks!

wow, i just wanted to say this is one of my fav videos on dc
great job whitelime and 2four offsuit

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Imperessive fold here, this is a situation I use to call down to much in.
Ur at the toptop of your range, the turn & river totaly bricks off.

I would call and usually get pretty tilted here. I think if this was a 50/50 situation the fold is still better because the times Im right Im guessing and the times Im wrong I get tilt mood on.

Very Good video so far!

wow, sick video, i've watched it twice today

how you responded to his early aggression was inspiring to me, as i like to go into crazy spew mode vs that type of aggression.

Something to note in the 33 vs A7 hand on A77 11m30sec

He Cbet $6 instead of the standard $10 which he has been doing every other time up until now. Alarm bells would be going off for me at that point!

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Something to note in the 33 vs A7 hand on A77 11m30sec

He Cbet $6 instead of the standard $10 which he has been doing every other time up until now. Alarm bells would be going off for me at that point!

This was actually more of a function of the board texture than hand strength. If you look at the 3:13 timestamp, I cbet a wetter board JT2 on the right larger than the A74 board on the left. On a very dry board like the A77r I ended up cbetting only half pot, because it was so dry.

When looking to develop reads on your opponents' bet sizing, make sure that you're factoring board texture into the equation. Someone full potting a JT9 board and 1/2 potting A33 might not actually tell you much about their hand strength.