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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (Mid Stakes)

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zomg 7game HU.

zomg 7game HU.

Yep, you somewhat inspired this btw!

6:35

standard, I just want to know how high can DJ's door card get before you reraise your (62)9, I think I am reraising this versus a 6+ door, assuming opponent is raising any 3 there of course.

9:15

yup I like a raise with DJs hand because that's such an autobet (but a good bet for sure) type of board situation for joe, and DJ has a monster.

I def agree that it's the river situations in hurazz that will usually determine who has the edge, you have to know how light your opponent likes to look you up, and it's quite tough when you only see 10 hands an orbit and maybe 8 or 9 don't get past 4th.

12:00

A good spot for DJ to c/r if he had some sort of made high, but with only the doublegutter to go with the 3rd nut low i c/c turn, lead a 2 riv, c/r a 6 riv.

13:29

this is so close, i'm lost whether to 3bet or call with DJs hand. I guess it hinges on how aggro opponent is. If I have 95A3 I'm ista3betting. Course most of the guys I play against don't raise this riv with the 8hi straight without also having at least 3rd or 2nd nut low.

14:47

absolutely agree with raising the KKA on 4th, lot of opponents will check behind 5th. with DJs hand I think I would peel 4th and probably fold 5th unimproved. Any faults with that line? Joe shows a lot of strength, and trying to draw to 2pair versus a pair of Aces usually doesn't pan out so well.

20:50

yeah during 7game PLO I like to raise a little wider on the button because most opponents aren't really comfortable at PLO and err on the tight side OOP. Can't really fault them too much, but you gotta get the extra button value.

21:45

ooh boy, hulhe, my game. I'm not sure about this flop peel, give yourself backdoor clubs and I don't mind. When he checks the turn I give up here. If he has the part of his 3bet range without SD value he is certainly barreling, so a turn bet has no FE imo.

22:14

if you are going to bluff this Q9 I prefer c/r flop. c/c c/r turn doesn't really make sense for a strong hand on this board, as a lot of your straight draws with c/r flop, and you will be c/ring TP the majority of the time i'd think.

24:52

joe, what are your thoughts on calling the bringin HU? I generally go with a raise or fold strategy in all the stud variants. Seems like something you'd have to mix up versus thinking head readers, so I wouldn't think it good against them, but maybe it has merit versus fish?

25:18

along the same line as the last comment, I never open complete either. Also wondering if I can borrow your luckbox if you'd be so kind Joe. thx in advance.

26:57

as much as I love bluffing it's damn hard in stud facing a river bet. You really have to be playing a good hand reader for it to work, as most opponents I face just will not fold for 1 more bet regardless of what I'm repping. But on the flipside, I get paid off, so it's all good.

razzhu is about as boring as hunl imo. Only gets exciting when both people make a hand.

31:17

I actually like the c/c river with DJs 7hi flush versus a good vbettor like Joe. We are getting raised by FHs and the nut flush most likely if we lead. We also might induce him to turn a weak made hand into a bluff. Against most the passive fish I play I b/f this all day.

34:00

def agree about watching nightmare on 7th videos, good stuff and very applicable to HU stud as well as FR.

34:39

I'm not the best at hunl but I think folding the A2s to a 3bet is just fine, mainly because of having to find a fold postflop on an Ahigh board is rough stuff.

41:48

c/r/f isn't too bad on some boards, but even against joetall I think I have to call the 3bet, just in case he has something like 87, diamonds, or even Qhi with 2 diamonds. The only thing that tips it towards a fold is the timing, but even then some people are capable of the insta3bet bluff (I use it with great success against certain opponents).

42:23

I'm usually 3betting the turn with the Qs7c here. Usually TP is going to raise flop, but even if they are the type to wait for a nonspade turn to raise TP I still have decent equity. I would also expect flopped flushes to sometimes fastplay flop, and flopped flushes aren't really too big a portion of the range. If I get capped i sigh and c/f riv unimproved.

43:03

I think enough of our range is c/ring this flop for value/semibluff that I don't really like adding in bottom pair to that range. I think it plays pretty well as a bluff catcher with a c/c c/decide c/decide line.

As played I like a b/f turn, at best we are up against a decent draw with overs so I'm not liking our equity and RIO here.

45:29

hehe I can't believe how much success DJ is having with the opencomplete bluff. I don't know if it's enough though laying 20 to win 6.

47:23

calling down nut low is fine of course, if possible I'd like to sometimes find a good turn to raise to try to shake off weak high hands, but of course that has more value when you do have at least some sort of high draw. With DJs exact hand I like just calling down, but if he had some counterfeit protection or more than just overs to second pair I like a raise somewhere.

49:26

(Js Ad) 6s versus joe's K, how do you feel about a reraise here with the 6? My thinking is that AJ high is ahead of a random K, we have a somewhat deceptive hand. if we get capped (unlikely, as I think split Ks will often flat anyways) we can definitely call.

IDK, maybe I'm too aggro with steals in this structure but I think this is a spot where a reraise is good for balance.

50:19

double bets on paired 4th, hmm I used to think it was good to offer the fish better odds but still not good enough to try to outdraw my single pair, but I guess if they are going to make that mistake, it's not too much of a stretch to assume they'd call a double bet as well.


56:35

AJ is close here getting 5:1, I prob peel and then fold unless i catch the straight, A or J. You probably get 2 bets out of a 6 on the riv when you catch the T so I think that helps cancel out the ROI of the times you catch an A or J and call.


Really good video overall, it's cool how you can teach each other your strong games.

I'm just one of the lucky 7 people who enjoys HU stud.

So now that I totally know all your weaknesses you still gonna sit at my 8/16 tables? jk, I probably owe you a few rounds of play for this video, particularly the stud and stud8 advice.

And DJ had some good HUPLO nuggets in there too.

I gotta say though, the weirdest game in the mix has to be LO8, it's just so many weird spots in a HU context.

I'm just one of the lucky 7 people who enjoys HU stud.

So now that I totally know all your weaknesses you still gonna sit at my 8/16 tables? jk, I probably owe you a few rounds of play for this video, particularly the stud and stud8 advice.

And DJ had some good HUPLO nuggets in there too.

I gotta say though, the weirdest game in the mix has to be LO8, it's just so many weird spots in a HU context.

Glad you enjoyed the video.

Also, I see all your responses but...aiya! going to take forever to get through them.

Watch this short video: http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/866-Using-the-Flash-Video-Player and leave a time link next time!

Great Vid!! More 7 game or 8 game plz!!

I would have left time links but I couldn't get the vid to play in my browser for some reason .

Doh, it works now....sigh.

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Joe - I really like a c/r on the river here with the nut flush. Give DJ a chance to bluff at it because if you check your hand looks like it might be like Ax or aces up that will fold a decent amount, and if he does have a flush he will definitely value bet.

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Would you ever consider simply folding this junk to the raise?

Joe - I really like a c/r on the river here with the nut flush. Give DJ a chance to bluff at it because if you check your hand looks like it might be like Ax or aces up that will fold a decent amount, and if he does have a flush he will definitely value bet.

He preemptive clicked CHECK/FOLD! No offense to DJ but after a few hands I realized O8 was his weakest spot and playing straight up was likely to get more value.

Would you ever consider simply folding this junk to the raise?

YES, I missed it. DJ should 100% fold there after trying to steal.

I DJ

...and Joe is pure awsome!

He preemptive clicked CHECK/FOLD! No offense to DJ but after a few hands I realized O8 was his weakest spot and playing straight up was likely to get more value.

The important thing to take from this video is that O8 is the worst game ever