iluv68
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Andrew and Kristy - thanks for two great series! I would like to say the Coaching Kristy series were the two most helpful series I have watched. I play 25/50/100nl 6-max player and 1/2 live and this was perfect to give me edge I have always worked for! Best thing I can take from the series was the "monsters under the bed syndrome" which refers to villain possibly having a better hand, but after constructing a corresponding range the most +EV play is to still value bet (instead of being scared they have those better hands resulting in loss of value
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Kristy - you are lucky to have had this opportunity, and it was fun watching you evolve as a player. Hope you run good and play well in the future
Andrew - Thanks for the great coaching! I really enjoy your teaching strategy of "why?" as the fundamental question to actions in poker. I hope you continue to make series as I enjoy watching yours the most.
Hopefully online poker in the US becomes legal and we can all have fun smashing fish again with no fear of our money freezing up
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runners23
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Can you explain a bit more with the 56s hand. Im actually with Kristy on this one I tend to fold here alot as well. Now you were saying we can bluff raise rivers vs villian, because its very hard for him to make the nuts but do you really think he needs even close to the nuts to call us? Ive been in spots where i sorta used your logic and have been called pretty light IE 10s on 278Q3 when villian 3barels. You see what im saying? How villian can put us on a draw and call off with things that are way worse than nutted hands. So with my bad experiences with hands like i normally just fold them pre. But maybe I just ran into variance over x amount of hands and that has percieved my judgement. Or i could be picking bad spots to bluff jam or bluff raise. Any more explanation on this topic would be greatly appreciated, TY!
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runners23
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I dont understand when you say if we call turn we never ever can fold river, other wise we should just fold turn. How is this true when I see so many 1/2 regs that will barrel two times alot and give up on river since they dont think your folding. Another example is when regs 2barel draws and they brick off, I see alot check giving up on river. Again because they believe there fold equity is not high enough to continue aggression.I think saying that can confuse some players at least it did for me when I heard this in another video by a diff instructor Where i kept paying off in spots where villians didnt have bluffing ranges, because all I had in my head was once I call turn Im commited. I removed that thought process after donating alot of money.
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runners23
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Baluga I really do love you man and I love the way you teach. But im really getting confused with your logic here, your saying most players will 3barrel K10 BVB on 1072dd yes I agree. What I disagree with is you saying hes going to fold it on the river, Example all draws miss he 3barrels he is rarely folding in that spot.
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runners23
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1more? you say with 810 on that board we were going to call Flop on 1072dd then bluff raise turns with no reads vs villian. Cant we assume in most cases our hand is best on flop given the positions and stats?
If so why are we planning on turning out hand into a bluff when villian still has a ton of draws and worse pairs he can be barreling 7x hands 8s 9s. So we are bluffing the turn because we are scared to play a river? Im not assuming thats what your teaching here at all Im just letting you know thats what it looks like to me. As i said in a previous post this spot fits it perfect he 2barrels here with draws and weaker pairs im sure we would both agree with that. Now what do we think he does with missed draws on river bricks? Clearly most of the time hes done its just way to likely hes getting called down. Now the other half of his range are the pairs 7x,8s 9s those hands as well checks hoping for a cheap showdown, unless this guy is one of the 2percent of extremely higher level thinking players at this limit.
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runners23
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Fresh_David
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Hye andrew,
You said our hero seems to 3bet randomly. What's wrong with 3betting the Top of our folding range (as a bluff) A2s A9s T7s, when obv our opponents seems to open a fairly wide range IP and fold a lot to 3bets ?
(it is EV+ when they fold >60%, whereas folding is EV0)
His opponents seems to not adjust well by calling/raising to his wide weak 3betting range.
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BalugaWhale
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Hye andrew,
You said our hero seems to 3bet randomly. What's wrong with 3betting the Top of our folding range (as a bluff) A2s A9s T7s, when obv our opponents seems to open a fairly wide range IP and fold a lot to 3bets ?
(it is EV+ when they fold >60%, whereas folding is EV0)
His opponents seems to not adjust well by calling/raising to his wide weak 3betting range.
3betting weak things like T7s or A2s are fine vs a guy like that, but with stronger things like A9s, KQ, AT, etc, we should flat to keep his weaker hands involved.
Andrew
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BalugaWhale
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pumpui
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i dont understand the T8 hand discussion on T7xs board, its a semi wet board , so villain would expect us to play our strong hands faster, so if we do call call jam river over his bet hes snapping with all the value hands since all the draws missed, only hands hes folding are busted draws that he 3barreled and we beat those, and not so many 3barrel busted draws anyways, i believe its a call call fold or call call check back spot in our shoes, or maybe im missing something 
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Ass Get to Jigglin
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vs someone who check/folds a lot of flops though, when they do bet the flop and especially on that drawy board, they will usually have either a good hand or a draw, both of which are betting at least twice. So how can we take a call flop fold turn line vs them if we expect to see a 2nd barrel a large% of the time?
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Ass Get to Jigglin
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But wouldn't you say that most regs expect us to raise our sets on the flop? so when we raise river they've already taken them out of our range and therefore click call with KT?
Kristy's question didn't seem to be a matter of worrying about her actual range being balanced balanced, but rather a matter of being perceived to be unbalanced and therefore not getting our desired outcome (a fold). i.e. she's not saying, "we wouldn't play sets like this, so bluffing like this makes me exploitable, so I shouldn't do it," she's saying, "our opponent wouldn't expect us to play sets like that so why won't he call?"
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