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whitelime vs. pr1nnyraid: Lime Slicer Episode Two

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whitelime vs. pr1nnyraid: Lime Slicer Episode Two by KRANTZ

Part 1 of 3: whitelime and KRANTZ explore the differences between 5/10 and 10/20 and develop detailed reads on their regular opponents over a long session at 2000nl. Winner of the challenge is whoever wins the most money over 500 hands and neither is allowed to monitor how the other player is doing.

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Clash of the titans. whitelime and KRANTZ battle each other in a series of high-stakes, daring challenges designed to explore what it takes to move beyond solid winning TAG play into the mindset of an elite No-Limit player. Immerse yourself deep within their thought processes in whitelime's half, "Stuffing the Penguin," or KRANTZ's, "Lime Slicer."

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 48 minutes long
  • Posted over 5 years ago

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TheMetetron

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Joined 05/2007

Krantz,

I look forward to seeing the range you think is going to reasonably call you there. You are certainly a better player than me, but questioning better players is a good way for one to improve. No attitude here - though I can see how my comment about you misreading the hand could be construed as that - I'll try to keep a closer watch on that in the future. I do respect your play quite a bit. Keep up the good work as this is certainly one of the best video sites around.

Posted over 5 years ago

TheMetetron

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Also, I agree your image was probably looser than I was thinking, and I was thinking about the river bet with a more tight image which I would usually have.

Posted over 5 years ago

KRANTZ

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Krantz,

I look forward to seeing the range you think is going to reasonably call you there. You are certainly a better player than me, but questioning better players is a good way for one to improve. No attitude here - though I can see how my comment about you misreading the hand could be construed as that - I'll try to keep a closer watch on that in the future. I do respect your play quite a bit. Keep up the good work as this is certainly one of the best video sites around.



Thanks and no hard feelings - will definitely go over this hand with whitelime in the results clip.

Posted over 5 years ago

diatty

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Joined 01/2008

GREAT video ( as whitelime also).

Actually really really great valuebet w\ 98s. Though i think this concept is pretty hard for medium players nl400-600, who doesn't know what is it to be agressive player and how to use your image. I think after this one hand i add +1%-2% to my poker skill Smile

Posted over 5 years ago

Constantine585

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Joined 01/2008

This is a Norm McDonald joke.

Guy luckboxes an event at the WSOP for the biggest score of his young career. The ESPN guy runs over to him, congratulates him, and asks him what he's going to do with the money.

"Well," he says, "There are a few people I have to pay off some debts to."

So the announcer says "Okay, well, what will do with the rest of the money?"

The kid thinks for a second and says "They'll have to wait."

Posted over 5 years ago

hooked

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Krantz, you talked about the player flawless victory in your first video can you please post some links of his articles/strategy guides he has, thanks.

Posted over 5 years ago

jgunnip

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I'm really enjoying this series and looking forward to watching the next two in this part of the series. It'll be interesting watching a 2-3 hour session and how reads and meta are used.

Only thing I didn't like was you railing on that guy in the J8 hand after you misread the action.

Posted over 5 years ago

superlee

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Not that it makes any difference now. But in the pot with Crush And Kill, versus random numbers and letters-guy, he doesn't call a shove on the river, he donks turn when the flush hits after calling the re-raise on the jtt flop, then he bluffs the river with the rest of his stack (except 50) which he calls with, when random numbers and letters-guy puts his stack in. I'm guessing that your note on him wouldn't look quite the same if you noticed. Nice video though.

Posted over 5 years ago

KRANTZ

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Not that it makes any difference now. But in the pot with Crush And Kill, versus random numbers and letters-guy, he doesn't call a shove on the river, he donks turn when the flush hits after calling the re-raise on the jtt flop, then he bluffs the river with the rest of his stack (except 50) which he calls with, when random numbers and letters-guy puts his stack in. I'm guessing that your note on him wouldn't look quite the same if you noticed. Nice video though.




As I noted earlier in this thread, I misread the hand. It's still a very bad play and doesn't change my note much at all.

Posted over 5 years ago

superlee

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Not that it makes any difference now. But in the pot with Crush And Kill, versus random numbers and letters-guy, he doesn't call a shove on the river, he donks turn when the flush hits after calling the re-raise on the jtt flop, then he bluffs the river with the rest of his stack (except 50) which he calls with, when random numbers and letters-guy puts his stack in. I'm guessing that your note on him wouldn't look quite the same if you noticed. Nice video though.


As I noted earlier in this thread, I misread the hand. It's still a very bad play and doesn't change my note much at all.



My bad, I missed those posts but I saw them now. And I agree, the play is terrible. I'm assuming that he either thought the guy was bluffing or that he could get him off trips if the flush-card fell.

Posted over 5 years ago

RushingOver

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Joined 02/2008

Great video man. Like the first 1. Your also a Funny guy, makes it even better to watch.

Posted about 5 years ago

tufts

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x-posted from high stakes:

Hey Krantz-

Really like the site so far, looking forward to new content.

In the second episode of lime slicer, you mention that you used to be really "paranoid" and would spew off a lot of money 5 bet bluffing but you learned to get over it. I feel like this is my biggest leak- when I'm playing other good, aggressive players I get impatient and I don't wait for hands. I tend to assume everyone's bluffing at me so I overadjust and really start spewing whether it's 5bet bluffing or making ridiculously loose calls. I rationalize it as a solid adjust in my head when I do it, but when it comes down to it, it's just bad tilty -ev poker. Can you give any advice on how you managed to get past the paranoia and/or feeling like you were always getting outplayed? Thanks.

Posted about 5 years ago

vancouverspecial

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Hi Krantz,

Regarding clarification of the KQo hand.

My question is how does your line change if the hand was CO/MP vs BU? Seems like the line you took in the video would then play much better, or do you feel the same principles apply as you discussed after (bet/check/bet)?

Thanks,
Mark

Posted about 5 years ago

Ulysses

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Joined 07/2008

Great vid, learning a ton here.

One comment on the AJ hand. You raise in EP, villain calls BTN. You c-bet a T77 flop, he calls. The turn is a 9. You check, he bets. You then say something like: he will check his pocketpairs behind, so he must have a big T or better. But i think it isn't unlikely that he bets pp 22-66 here for protection, since another T or 9 will counterfeit his hand, which is 6 more outs for him to lose the hand against A-high.

Posted almost 5 years ago

ulikemehpokaface?

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Time Link to 00:07:00

w/89s on 10 high flop you opt to value bet river even though you previously stated you figured him to have a PP (one that i assume lower than a 10) or a 10. Well the board came with a 6 and an 8, excluding the combo of 88 he can have for probability reasons, what worst hands do you figure him to call you off there that didn't improve by the river? Pocket 7's? You sure did rep an OP well by tripling so I'd expect all worse to fold, and considering you're an unknown raising UTG we're hoping he can find a fold here with J10 or something alike to the triple.

My problem isn't with the bet, it's that you figure it to be for value where it's clearly a bet to capitalize on the dead money already in the pot, FE obviously being another contender here given our very strong pre and post line.

Posted almost 3 years ago




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