July 22, 2011

Better Grinding

Jared tendler notes
making supernova elite aka how to grind like a madman (while keeping your sanity)
the overall aim is to play in the zone more frequently and to increase your capacity
these concepts covered are the big stuff, focusing on the highest priority, most bang for your time
goals for the series:
increasing mental endurance
automate poker decisions
increase poker skill easily
reduce mental game weaknesses
resetting your mind
goals and planning
1.mental endurance
adding tables
adding hours
start with what you can do
have a goal, not an expectation
work your way up to x amount of tables, slowly.
Look back what you can do already, over hours a day, month and years and number of tables
so I can reasonably do 4 tables and 4 hours in a day a goal would be 6 tables and 6 tables a day for a 50% overall increase.
Mix it up, light work up slowly
day 1 increase each session by 10min
day 2 increase by 1 table
day 3 increase each session by 10min
day 4 increase by 1 table
day 5 increase by 10min and 1 table
day 6 increase by 10min and 1 tables
all of this relies upon an already pre established routine of tables and session length, dont have one? That is probably a problem. Establish a routine!
Mix it up, heavy workout
day 1 increase each session by 20min
day 2 increase by 2 tables
day 3 increase by 1 hour and 1 table
day 4 DAY OFF
day 5 increase by 20min and 2 tables
day 6 increase by 1 hour and 2 tables
day 7 DAY OFF
bottom line is that you are growing your endurance and also trying to push yourself
the gain is in the last reps.. the end of your run, the end of your workout, no pain no gain..
you can make massive gains, AS LONG AS YOU REST.. if you do not you burn out
proper rest means sleep, vacation time, time away from poker
1 day of mass grinding 14 hours a day max and on the best day – Sunday!
Take scheduled time off. Put it off your mind, put poker down
2.more automatic = more endurance
automatic decisions require very little energy, so get things to become part of your procedural memory by building up tables and sessions slowly and also constantly reviewing hands, this will make things to the state of instinct
the idea is that you get a degree of knowledge that is ingrained so deep that it exists below your emotional level of thinking
remember, more volume = more mistakes, so build up slowly
when you increase your volume without adding more automatic skills, you have more to think about and less time to do it. Always aim to get the procedural memory.
In procedural memory you have stuff that is solid and stuff that sucks. What you need to constantly work on is the stuff that sucks. This is why having your videos reviewed is a good idea, you will do things you don’t even know you are doing (as you do things you think are normal but are not)
analyse your game when you lose the ability to think
the mistakes you make when you go on autopilot represent your greatest weaknesses, as these are ingrained in procedural memory
you don’t completely forget how to play, all the really standard stuff shows up
its easy to work on, you know what the problems are usually!
For me for example it is 3bet pots, hands like AQ, small sizing in 3bet pots,
also, pre-flop wars with one opponent.. need to work on just playing solid and not getting drawn into the meta game
3.so how do we do that?
You identify first, fix them efficiently second, and then thirdly know when they are fixed.
1 – identify, Think about the spots where you constantly have lost the ability to think, as mentioned above, lost a big pot, autopilot, some random crazy play, whatever it is for you, think back over the last couple of months to these situations where you stopped thinking rationally and made a bad play where you knew afterwards it was bad when you were thinking – see my wall of shame. Mark the spew hands and review them after your mind has returned to functional. Identifying is a SKILL
2 -fix your leaks, five step protocol
write out the mistake. Be specific
write out the rationale about why you made these plays-several reasons
write out why the above rationale is flawed
write out the correction, directly challenging step 1
write out the rationale why this is correct – directly challenging step 2 and 3
applying is: warm-up -review steps 4 and 5 before you play, performance: when playing force yourself to think and apply it, warm-down- review how you did
remember to recognize the progress
you may find out more information by reviewing this. Repeat all of this until it is fixed
4.reduce mental game weaknesses
focus on reducing your GREATEST mental weaknesses
this will free up energy to grind more and play better, as well as help you avoid burn out
improve tilt = improved focus
improved confidence = reduced anxiety
1. Identify the problem 2. reduce it efficiently a) manage it til its resolved b) resolve the problem 3. know when the problem is fixed
remember to increase your volume without increasing your skill in managing and resolving the problem, you have more to manage and less time to do it.
Identify ALL your mental game weaknesses, then work on the BIGGEST first and address that, then move on to the next and the next and the next
4 biggest weaknesses
TILT is the biggest one to combat. TILT = anger + bad play. Write down WHY you tilt and what triggers you to TILT
ANXIETY = doubt or uncertainty
MOTIVATION = energy behind your goals
CONFIDENCE = perception + actual skill
some other mental game weaknesses include, Focus, Thinking, Variance
Look at breaking down your overall pattern. Identiy the patterns which get you tilted, anxious, motivated(or lack thereof), confident (or lack thereof)
Think back over your last 150k+ hands, look at the recurring themes of tilt. Anxiety.motivate.confidence. Write it down, look for the things that SET it off and your tendencies that you do to react to that
Remember that you are biased by recent events, so look at these things from a longer term perspective, remember last 150k+ hands
Choose the problems that happen the most frequently, or causes the biggest problem, remember to go after the biggest problem first (Looking at graphs/cashier during play for example)
Fix it Efficiently 5 Step Process
1. Write out the mistake and be very specific
2. write out why it makes sense to react that way
3.why is reason 2 flawed?
4. write out the correction (challenge step number 1)
5. write out why that correction is right
1 – I can accept losing, but not when I make an obvious mistake it pisses me off
2 – there are mistakes I should not be making and it makes me question my game
3 – I assumed because they were so obvious that I wouldnt be making them. My expectations must be too high
4- when I make a mistake I mark the hand for review and decide whether or not to continue
5-mistakes are an opportunity to learn. Playing is not the time to learn, we work at this away from the tables
example 2
1-I get piessed off after taking several bad beats in a row
2 – im very competitive and hate losing
3- in the short term I control how well I play, not whether I win or lose
4- im going to work hard at the table to make sure that the variances doesnt affect my play – and work hard off the table so I can play beter and win more
5 – I have to lose and take beats to be profitable in the long term. Bad beats are my friend :)
example 3
1-during a bad run I worry that I will never win again
2-I havent won in a while, I must be playing poorly and cant see it turning around
3- recent results are biasing how I view my game and the future. Its impossible for my skills to disappear that quick.
4-during a bad run, I'll work harder away from the table to maintian a balanced perspective
5-in the long run poker rewards those who can maintain that perspective
example 4
1- during a heater I start thinking how easy the game is, play looser and dont play as much
2- ive always believed that I could be this good and assume that it will come indefinately
3-confidence is exaggerated by the good run of cards and by my wish for poker to be this easy
4-during a heater, I will stay more consistent with my approach to the game
5-its an opportunity to further train mental and poker skill to the level of procedural
Common Themes are, High Expectations, Exaggerated beliefs about your game, view of the future biased by recent events, trying to control events you cannot (opponents and card), responsibility, wishing/hoping, accumulated emotion
Managing Mental Game weaknesses when playing
1-recognize the problem has shown up (look for triggers), what happens in the early stages of this?
2-Take a step back, take a couple of deep breaths
3-inject the logic – use your observing self to see how you are reacting and say 'I am reacting this way, is that behaviour useful?'
4-refocus on playing well
so, 1warmup-review you pattern, 2-performance-use the 4 steps to manage the problems, 3-review how you did. Remember to always recognise progress!
5.Resetting your mind
To have your mind fresh every time you play
you MUST be consistent in applying this when problems are NOT even happening!
Why? Long sessions, tough sessions, high pressure, tilt, variance, running bad, running well, coming back from time off
How? 1-pick poker back up so your back playing well 2-prevent small problems becoming big ones, 3= put poker down so your mind can rest
Fits within the Process Model – Prepare, Perform, Evaluate, Analyse
Evaluation = digestion in Long Term memory. Bloated brain, get it out of your head, take a break, dont grind on poker mentally when you are away from the tables
Preparation= review your goals, force your way through, you need to know why you are playing, what is the motivation, be honest with yourself and adjust your expectations for the day depending upon what you are feeling at the moment
6.Goals and Planning
1-Back up Plan
2-Improving day to day
Back up plan – 1-understand your motives for going for your goals in the first place, why do you want this?, what are you going to get out of it? 2-Anticipate potential problems, what will throw you off? Make a plan based on you personally (tilt, run bad, bad run, life problems etc)
Improving Day to day – 1-break down your goals into chunks, per day, per month, per week. Planning a schedule, when you are playing, choose a nice mix between games being good and you playing your best, plan your days off and how much you will take off in advance. 2- be realistic in your pace and progress, 3-other goals, becoming more professional, getting your skills set, becoming a better grinder, building on your new skills for the future

Step 1- Identify your weaknesses in procedural memory
Step 2- Use the 5 step process to write them down and tackle them
Step 3- Review and constantly keep on top of your procedural and emotional weaknesses

Posted By Acombfosho at 01:55 AM


Tags: JT


doc.lemon posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Lemon (automobile)

What is the source Acombo? Is it his vids?

Acombfosho posted on July 22, 2011 at 13:30 PM


yeah I have a membership at DTB and its from Jared Tendlers Making SNE series

doc.lemon posted on July 22, 2011 at 13:41 PM

Lemon (automobile)

Cool, I am processing the notes. His approach is largely consistent with findings of Kahneman (he calls 'procedural memory' 'intuition'.)
I really like it it's nice and practical

doc.lemon posted on July 22, 2011 at 13:50 PM

Lemon (automobile)

Btw thanks for doing this, I used to write similar blogs but I found out it's better to write for myself than for blogs (you can make shortcuts in notes and skip obvious stuff etc.) but it sure is appreciated <3

I think this showed you the reason for the snaps you post if wall of shame, emotions and flaws are inseparable part of intuition, and it takes long time to 'tame' them (but never get rid of them, because of emotions you can make quick decisions and know what's right and wrong in the first place).

If you will work on it, please post your five step protocol for intuitive mistakes you identify, I am really curious what you will find and how you will work on it

Acombfosho posted on July 22, 2011 at 14:20 PM


Yeah I am going to write a list of both procedural playing mistakes as well as a mental game weaknesses. Then attack them using the 5 step protocol. I will do this before I play again. No more playing til all of these are at least identified and I have began to work on them.

doc.lemon posted on July 22, 2011 at 14:34 PM

Lemon (automobile)

Well although the standard ones are easy to spot, I don't think you can identify everything without actually playing.

It's a lot different when you don't just grind but look for spots where you make intuitive mistakes, the identification process takes a very long time actually, I'd recommend what he said (sweats, analysis, other people reviewing your game) and on top of that a diary where you write down everything and look for patterns

doc.lemon posted on July 22, 2011 at 14:35 PM

Lemon (automobile)

I write one but I didn't know what to look for and how to categorize everything, I will build my diary structure on what was said in your notes

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