October 08, 2013

From Busto to Robusto

Hey guys, this will most likely be my last blog post at DC. I know that's not much of a loss as since black friday I've rarely posted but it holds some sentimental value to me as this blog was a big part of my poker playing for a couple years. It was a forum for me to decompress, spitball ideas, talk theory, or just think out loud. Not only that, I had a great bunch of readers who made great comments and provided help whenever I asked for it. I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who made this a good experience for me. I'll still check in on DC from time to time. I always read Tecmo's and twofour's blog post as well as any other random title that catches my eye, but as far as me blogging, this post will be my last.

My last post I made was after my second quarter of grad school. I was struggling to get through life, working a full time job for minimum wage in order to pay for my living expenses as well as taking an extra class each quarter in order to finish early. It really was a struggle and I was really spent by March. My last quarter I did well enough grade wise but I wasn't all there. I wasn't retaining any of the information and would just cram for the tests and be done with it. I had a struggle with my last project with a couple group members who and actually had to do work past my graduation date which is probably the most frustrated I've ever been in my life. I didn't realize how graduate students could be so lazy, and these students didn't have jobs other than going to school. A lot of it was validated however when my second to last day I was leaving the campus and a student who I had a few classes with and knew my story just because of chit chat here and there said "I admire your stamina" during a conversation we were having. Which at that point was just awesome to hear, it made the last couple days so much easier.

From there I went on the job search. I applied to places NYC, Chicago, and Charlotte, along with some other cities sprinkled in. This was at the end of May and led to the start of the most frustrating 3 months of my life. I got an interview with a trading firm in Chicago, I studied up on a bunch of brain teasers and was ready to go. However, I just wasn't prepared as I should've been an absolutely bombed the interview. The kicker was when the interviewer asked me what are the odds of getting your flush in Hold em when you have 2 spades on a 2 spade board. I haven't actually figured that out in about 10 years and had always just used the rule of while playing. That was an incredibly humbling experience, and set the tone for what was going to be a struggle to find a job.

I would send out about 10 applications a day and rarely hear back. I got some help from some twoplustwo members but things really turned around for me after I bought a book about how to search for your first job. After reading that i had realized that my resume wasn't even being looked at in most cases. I was was also a tough case. I had very little work experience for the fields that I was applying to. I was a successful poker player but not too many people cared about that and in fact I'd say it was a deterrent overall.

Also factor in that I was barely making enough to pay the bills, I hated our apartment as we had DJ's on the 3rd floor and very immature kids on the 2nd floor who loved to play their music incredibly loud. Each time I heard back from a job, it was always to say thanks for applying but unfortunately we've found someone else. On the week of July 4th my girlfriend (Kate) and I went down to Charlotte for a week so I could try to make some connections and had a couple informal interviews set up.

Overall the week in Charlotte was great. Both of my meetings went well (although one was with a recruiter) and for the first time in a long time I was optimistic. From there I got an interview based on my first informal meeting with a department store and I heard back from the recruiter saying Bank of America was interested in my story and a department at their Charlotte corporate office would like to speak to me. Also, I got an interview with Rubbermaid in Charlotte to be a financial analyst but got rejected after the first phone interview. 

They said it was because of my lack of experience but Kate was listening in and said I was saying "um" way too much and would speak too fast after getting asked a question instead of thinking about it. The interview was a real wake up call. It would've been nice to have a job but the pay was pretty low and it had so-so reviews on random job sites. However it was from there that I vowed never to be ill-prepared for an interview again. After bombing my trading firm interview as well as this one, I couldn't afford to struggle so much again both literally and figuratively. 

Moving on...the department store meeting was for a financial analyst position and I wasn't sure what the Bank interview was for. Both went well and I was optimistic about hearing positive feedback was broke. I was still in Rochester this point and it was early August. Kate was holding out applying to jobs until we knew where we were going. Early August I told her to go ahead and apply for jobs in Charlotte, since it might take some time.

She applied to jobs during the day and that night we went golfing at a small local course. Golf always helps me to clear my head and was definitely what I needed considering I was frustrated beyond belief at my job search. Kate doesn't golf but she wanted some exercise so she went with me to walk the course. Around the 6th hole she said "hmm, I just got an E-mail for an interview for one of the jobs I applied to today." I was ecstatic for her and quickly finished so we could grab some dinner and prepare her.

The next day I was at work, hoping to hear back from either of the 2 companies I interviewed with when I got a call from Kate. I asked how the interview went and she said "It went terrible, it only lasted 20 minutes and they OFFERED ME THE JOB! I start in 2 weeks" While I was overjoyed at her success part of me wondered how we were going to make it work. We were already broke I didn't have a job in Charlotte, and we had nothing. All I knew is we were moving and there wasn't anything I was going to do to stop it.

Gonna stop for now, part 2 is coming soon.

Posted By bosoxx34 at 02:28 AM



zachd2323 posted on October 08, 2013 at 08:27 AM


Hey man, best of luck in your search. I just started grad school a few weeks ago so I'm in a similar spot. I don't have much work experience either and so I'm currently working on how to market myself on my resume, etc. I'm considering putting poker skills on there but it may be best to leave it off considering your experience. Anyways, keep me updated on how everything goes and keep at it. You'll get where you want to be eventually.

bosoxx34 posted on October 08, 2013 at 10:33 AM


Thanks man, the story gets a little better (Spoiler alert), what I did as far as poker at the end was if I was able to explain how it wasn't just gambling i.e. to the recruiter I would leave it on. I'll shoot you a PM soon with what I've learned and what I would do differently after I finish part 2 (or 3, could be 3 parts), good to hear from you. Hope all is well.

TecmoSuperBowl posted on October 08, 2013 at 11:43 AM


I always love reading your posts man so hopefully you'll still sprinkle in the sporadic update. I've been going through the most difficult time in my life these past few months so I know how it is when times get rough. And I also realize that this is only part 1, and it sounds like it'll get better, but I just wanted to say that at least you have Kate. It sounds like you guys are a great team and that's something very special.

Oh, and thanks for reading my posts too :)

zachd2323 posted on October 09, 2013 at 04:27 AM


Ok cool, I'd love to hear about it. I actually had a meeting with our career adviser here and she thought it was good to put it on my resume as long as I own it and explain how the poker skill set is beneficial in business. I think it might also help that I want to work in sports. I think I have it written well on my resume so now it will just be a matter of explaining that during the interview process. Got a little time to figure that out though.

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