Poker Video: MTT/SNG by iSport (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:26:51

what are you thoughts of what this villain does when you check the turn assuming you did? Do you think he aways bets his draws? his marginal showdown hands?

I agree that a check call could be good, but after thinking about it doesnt that line kinda telegraph our hand strength a bit? Seems like you dont have many stats or notes on this villain so i dont know what you would assume about an unknown here.

I guess the best thing about firing the turn ( which at first i didnt love) is that you really do rep a bit wider a range with that line then checking. basically betting the turn is the only way you have air and some monsters which may be better in a midstakes tourny if you feel people can hand read a little bit

Time Link to 00:37:35

what a lucky missed c/r

whats your thoughts on just betting that river?

Time Link to 00:02:50

Hi Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang16 and iSport,

Right here on table 3 you Isolate AJ for value certainly vs. the 20/0 UTG Limper. I have a little trouble knowing what a decent iso range is here. Certainly Strong hands for value, but I'm not sure if I should include baby pairs, A5s, Q5s type stuff, 76s, 22, etc...Just not sure how weak I should go. I guess I can look at like the villain is limping a ton of shit, so anything that I would raise from the button would make a decent iso range...Any advice?

-Thanks.

Time Link to 00:24:55

Hi, On Table 2 you c-bet your KK here on AQJ and then the hand checks down.

I'm assuming you c-bet the KK for thin value and to possibly end the hand there since you are oop. If villain fired into you 2/3 pot or so on the turn after you checked, what would you be thinking?

-Thanks.

Time Link to 00:49:41

I don't think this is quite as bad as you guys make out, you have 4 hands at the table so your range could easily be wider just because of that, you also see a lot of players jamming far worse than KJ, and most players will raise QQ+ not shove, and shove all pairs.

I don't think it's good against your range but it's probably break-even at the 39% he needs against most jams in that situation.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
2,650,646,592 trials (Exhaustive)
JJ-22,AK-AT, KQ,A9s 61.24% (1,610,899,680 wins, 24,788,832 ties)
QJo 38.76% (1,014,958,080 wins, 24,788,832 ties)

Time Link to 00:58:54

Help me out guys - how do we know that a player who is 12/12 over 67 hands, has 7BB and 3 more hands til the blinds hit him is raising a wide enough range to make this call with 33 profitable?

OK I just did the range calculations and you're absolutely right at 40% it's easy - he needs to be shoving only top 10% for it to be wrong.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
1,356,144,768 trials (Exhaustive)
33 39.48% (530,886,348 wins, 8,983,524 ties)
10% 60.52% (816,274,896 wins, 8,983,524 ties)

The thing I found really interesting is that it's really hard to have 50% equity he needs to be shoving 60% - so if he's shoving any wider than 10% 33 is good for 40% but to be good for 50% equity he needs to be shoving 60%.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
7,818,380,064 trials (Exhaustive)
33 49.99% (3,858,731,784 wins, 98,654,304 ties)
60% 50.01% (3,860,993,976 wins, 98,654,304 ties)

Question: How wide do we think he's pushing in this exact situation? 20,30,40%?

what are you thoughts of what this villain does when you check the turn assuming you did? Do you think he aways bets his draws? his marginal showdown hands?

I agree that a check call could be good, but after thinking about it doesnt that line kinda telegraph our hand strength a bit? Seems like you dont have many stats or notes on this villain so i dont know what you would assume about an unknown here.

I guess the best thing about firing the turn ( which at first i didnt love) is that you really do rep a bit wider a range with that line then checking. basically betting the turn is the only way you have air and some monsters which may be better in a midstakes tourny if you feel people can hand read a little bit

Which hand??

what a lucky missed c/r

whats your thoughts on just betting that river?

Sure I will bet there a lot as well and sizing would depend on what I thought of the player. If I think they're a calling station I would likely bet about 80% pot here.

Hi Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang16 and iSport,

Right here on table 3 you Isolate AJ for value certainly vs. the 20/0 UTG Limper. I have a little trouble knowing what a decent iso range is here. Certainly Strong hands for value, but I'm not sure if I should include baby pairs, A5s, Q5s type stuff, 76s, 22, etc...Just not sure how weak I should go. I guess I can look at like the villain is limping a ton of shit, so anything that I would raise from the button would make a decent iso range...Any advice?

-Thanks.

I wouldn't include hands like q5s at all but definitely suited broadway cards, suited ax, a10o, all pairs, some suited connectors. Thats the type of hands I might iso here. Also I still will give some credit to his position, if he's limping the cutoff I will widen my iso range.

Hi, On Table 2 you c-bet your KK here on AQJ and then the hand checks down.

I'm assuming you c-bet the KK for thin value and to possibly end the hand there since you are oop. If villain fired into you 2/3 pot or so on the turn after you checked, what would you be thinking?

-Thanks.

Due to the wetness of the board, stage of tourney, lack of read I would just check fold.

Help me out guys - how do we know that a player who is 12/12 over 67 hands, has 7BB and 3 more hands til the blinds hit him is raising a wide enough range to make this call with 33 profitable?

OK I just did the range calculations and you're absolutely right at 40% it's easy - he needs to be shoving only top 10% for it to be wrong.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
1,356,144,768 trials (Exhaustive)
33 39.48% (530,886,348 wins, 8,983,524 ties)
10% 60.52% (816,274,896 wins, 8,983,524 ties)

The thing I found really interesting is that it's really hard to have 50% equity he needs to be shoving 60% - so if he's shoving any wider than 10% 33 is good for 40% but to be good for 50% equity he needs to be shoving 60%.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
7,818,380,064 trials (Exhaustive)
33 49.99% (3,858,731,784 wins, 98,654,304 ties)
60% 50.01% (3,860,993,976 wins, 98,654,304 ties)

Question: How wide do we think he's pushing in this exact situation? 20,30,40%?

I'm on my mac, I'll hop on pc at home and run it on stove.

top right i think it was the 7's

Thank You Daaaaaaaaaaaang16

Time Link to 00:20:42

Haha you cant call there, way to many people to act behind you. Also him having "a wide range" is a bad thing for us when we have 22.

I'm on my mac, I'll hop on pc at home and run it on stove.

FYI have you seen the propokertools that runs on OS X and pc? Takes a bit of getting used to the syntax but really powerful and fast on multi-core macs. Plus it has Omaha, O8 and stud games.

http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/23-Software-and-Tools/topics/295491-ProPokerTools-Downloadabl?page=4&per_page=15#post_3144911

Time Link to 00:04:36

Is your reasoning for just calling this turn to keep the pot smaller or do you think you might be behind? His small turn bet seems like he wants to see a river, like he might have a king with a heart and wants to see a cheap river to try and catch a flush.. He could obv. also have 2 pair and wants to see where he is in the hand since the heart hit or possibly may have hit a flush.. Just curious your reasoning here as i find myself in tuff situations like this with a scary board where i think im ahead and not always sure weather to protect my hand or see a cheap river and evaluate from there.. Thanx in advance, rlly enjoying the series, just got to it as i wanted to finish the MTT principles series b4 watching.. looking forward to more!!