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The Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightenment: Episode Eight by Tommy Angelo

Tommy Angelo and Wayne Lively wrap up their series with this episode of Tiltlessness. What is tilt? What makes you tilt? What makes you tiltless? Figure it out.

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Join Tommy Angelo (author of Elements of Poker) and Wayne Lively as they embark on the Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightenment. This remarkable series is an excellent companion to Tommy's book and has been lovingly crafted over the past year. Featuring brand new musical composition from Tommy, this series is designed with the iPod in mind and transcends standard video poker training. Watch. Listen. Breathe. Win.

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Comments for The Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightenment: Episode Eight

Melville

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Thanks for this awsome series, guys.

Posted over 2 years ago

Jafeeio

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I blame both of you for making my life more enjoyable

Posted over 2 years ago

BusinessGypsy

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a thousand thanks. Keep up the good Karma.

Heart

Posted over 2 years ago

mightymart

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Time to lie in the bed with the lights off for 45 minutes of pure happiness Grin

Posted over 2 years ago

Bonito

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Wow could have used the blame portion on Friday.

A lady at work went to the VP and blamed me for some big mistake (someone is probably going to get fired over it) that she made. I heard about it and it really pissed me off. I almost walked into her office and demanded she go correct what she said to the VP and let him know it wasnt my fault. Some people I worked with talked me out of doing that because they could tell how pissed I was and it probably was just going to end up with her and I yelling at each other. So I didnt go do that, actually I went out side and counted my breathing which really does help.

I found out a couple hours latter that the VP knew it was her fault and basically put her in her place for making the mistake as well as trying to blame it on me, so there was really nothing for me to worry about.

This really is the best video series I have ever seen on any poker site, my girlfriend doesnt play poker and doesnt want to learn but she still loves this series.

Posted over 2 years ago

Wayne Lively

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This really is the best video series I have ever seen on any poker site, my girlfriend doesnt play poker and doesnt want to learn but she still loves this series.



That is the nicest compliment we have received. Thank you, and tell your GF thanks, too.

Wayne

Posted over 2 years ago

sushiglutton

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I'm still bitter that people prefer this series over watching me break down a hand in pokerazor for an hour. Where did the world go wrong? No girlfriend is watching my series I can assure u. They prefer to watch two oldies talking budhism over a young stud, like myself, doing some hot math Frown.

Anyway this is solid work boyz!

Posted over 2 years ago

SnappieVouz

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great episode again.
I am mos def guilty of blaming myself because of a bad play and tilting because of the bad play.

I also tilt because my opponents play bad...and get lucky with it

It was a real good episode for me

Posted over 2 years ago

itsdanwall

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Time Link to 00:15:01

This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:
"Wealth is like sea-water; the more we drink, the thirstier we become; and the same is true of fame." Schopenhauer

Posted over 2 years ago

TheLife

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By far the best video series on ANYTHING I've ever seen. Excellent work and looking forward to part two!

Tommy you should update your Med 101 stuff on your site also if you get some time Smile.

Posted over 2 years ago

suitedeule

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truly great series. opened up my eyes, ears and thoughts for so many things both in and outside of poker.

big thumbs up... (also tommy, make ur book cheaper in germany plz...)

Posted over 2 years ago

DeMonstrative

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With regard to playing the blame game...at what point are you responsible to speak the truth (right speech)?

There's a difference between falsely blaming others or circumstance for your own weakness, or correcting others' accusations out of a sense of "justice", and communicating to others (and oneself) the truth for the sake of the greater good.

That monk needs to say to that girl, "I was in my garden with my fellow monks (or wherever he was) when you said I got you pregnant."

Because, it's better for the girl and those involved to face reality as it is. Plus, there may be some guy out there running around getting girls pregnant and taking off. A reality that people should be aware of.

Just as, in poker, it's much better to say, "I missed that turn bet" or "I got outplayed" or "I shouldn't have played that hand OOP" rather than blame luck, your opponent, or simply shrug and do nothing about it.

Speaking the truth plainly to others and yourself, not for the sake of feeling vindicated or out of a sense of a justice, but for the sake of the truth...is a better course of action.

Posted over 2 years ago

MacAnthony

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The mp3 version of this episode definitely is not on par with the previous episodes. The audio isn't as good as the video version which the prior episodes there was little difference in quality.

Posted over 2 years ago

TazUltimate

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The mp3 version of this episode definitely is not on par with the previous episodes. The audio isn't as good as the video version which the prior episodes there was little difference in quality.



We were toying with various audio settings on this one. I have posted a more standard (higher quality) mp3 and wmv.
-Rusty

Posted over 2 years ago

rocketragz

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Thanks for the great series guys! So much more than just a poker series.

Cheers

Posted over 2 years ago

Woodge121

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This is the first episode that doenst download to my Ipod, it says that the file cannot be located??? Has anyone managed to download this one successfully?

Amazing series!

Posted over 2 years ago

jonk

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This is the first episode that doenst download to my Ipod, it says that the file cannot be located??? Has anyone managed to download this one successfully?



Yes

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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I blame both of you for making my life more enjoyable



We accept!

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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Wow could have used the blame portion on Friday.



It's never too late to start stopping.

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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Tommy you should update your Med 101 stuff on your site also if you get some time Smile.



Thanks for the prod. I just added a link to a Jon Kabat-Zinn guided meditation that he did at Google. And I made a note to go add stuff to that page more often. :-)

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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(also tommy, make ur book cheaper in germany plz...)



Hey! Cut me some slack here! I have a very expensive video-making habit to support!

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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With regard to playing the blame game...at what point are you responsible to speak the truth (right speech)?

There's a difference between falsely blaming others or circumstance for your own weakness, or correcting others' accusations out of a sense of "justice", and communicating to others (and oneself) the truth for the sake of the greater good.

That monk needs to say to that girl, "I was in my garden with my fellow monks (or wherever he was) when you said I got you pregnant."

Because, it's better for the girl and those involved to face reality as it is. Plus, there may be some guy out there running around getting girls pregnant and taking off. A reality that people should be aware of.

Just as, in poker, it's much better to say, "I missed that turn bet" or "I got outplayed" or "I shouldn't have played that hand OOP" rather than blame luck, your opponent, or simply shrug and do nothing about it.

Speaking the truth plainly to others and yourself, not for the sake of feeling vindicated or out of a sense of a justice, but for the sake of the truth...is a better course of action.



This is one of the areas where I still have more questions than answers. The truth - yes - that is the objective. But the nature of truth itself at every moment in every situation is ALWAYS entirely dependent on the judgments going on inside a human mind. And as we know, one man's truth can be another man's fiction. This happens billions of times per day.

I do believe it is possible that when the Monk chooses not to correct the facts, that he is speaking a level of truth that is higher than anything I have ever spoken. I don't understand it. But I do have faith that this is so.

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

TheBurger

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I think one of the coolest things about this series is its application to everyday life, not just the obvious poker situations.

Thanks again for your work on this series Wayne and Tommy!

Posted over 2 years ago

Wayne Lively

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I think one of the coolest things about this series is its application to everyday life, not just the obvious poker situations.

Thanks again for your work on this series Wayne and Tommy!



No no no, thank you. Hey, top billing? Far more than I deserve. All credit goes to The Great Kazoo. I just added punch lines. <cue rimshot>

Seriously, Tommy and I appreciate all of you for downloading and watching or listening. We tried always to keep you in mind as we worked on it and it seems we accomplished our goal. If someone hears us fifty years from now and we are still relevant, then we did it. If we aren't, then it is a far better world.

Working with Tommy was one of the best things that ever happened to me, and if any of you are envious, know that I understand and my good fortune never went unappreciated. If I am not the better for it, then the fault is certainly not Tommy's.

As we often said to one another, we could not have done it better, only different.

Best wishes to all the DC guys, and special thanks to Entity, who made it better.

Wayne

Posted over 2 years ago

SpewKid

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Great stuff. When do we get to see the second part?

Posted over 2 years ago

JohnnyAbove

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Tommy you are amazing!!!!! Change my life bro. Thanks so much..
JA

Posted over 2 years ago

DeMonstrative

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This is one of the areas where I still have more questions than answers. The truth - yes - that is the objective. But the nature of truth itself at every moment in every situation is ALWAYS entirely dependent on the judgments going on inside a human mind. And as we know, one man's truth can be another man's fiction. This happens billions of times per day.

I do believe it is possible that when the Monk chooses not to correct the facts, that he is speaking a level of truth that is higher than anything I have ever spoken. I don't understand it. But I do have faith that this is so.

Tommy



Thanks for your response. Now, I can tell all my friends that I've actually conversed with the great Tiltless Tommy.

Surely, there must be some objective truth. 2+2 is always 4. Focusing on my Breathing is good for me in a number of ways. These are universal truths, independent of what I think about them. I can choose to deny them in my own mind, but that's not going to change the way reality operates.

As an aside, I can see that the monk in your parable is operating on a higher plane. I suppose if i was so completely at peace with myself that i desired nothing, then i guess nothing anyone said or did to me could ever affect me. I'm a long way from that state though.....

Posted over 2 years ago

SnappieVouz

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Cool, found 4 of my biggest tilts:

- This player is horrible but he keeps winning - tilt
- Man the software annoys the crap out of me - tilt
- This guy is typing trash in the chat against me - tilt
- Those guys are talking crap about me in the chat - tilt

Posted over 2 years ago

DJ Sensei

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http://www.translationparty.com/#2127439

I've mostly been using it for rap lyrics, but this seemed quite appropriate Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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http://www.translationparty.com/#2127439

I've mostly been using it for rap lyrics, but this seemed quite appropriate Smile



Now this is what I call a good time. :-)

Here's the first back-to-English version from the list:

"To book this groundbreaking series of Tommy is a great friend, the past has been lovingly crafted one year."

Let's pretend that was two sentences, and look at the first one:

"To book this groundbreaking series of Tommy is a great friend."

I interpret this to mean that somewhere there is someone who has a great friend who is a bookie who is taking action on the series. I haven't yet conjectured what sort of action that would be. Maybe the second sentence will provide some clues:

"The past has been lovingly crafted one year."

Hmm. This sounds suspiciously like past posting. I wouldn't take the bet, whatever it is. Or maybe it's a reference to tender-hearted history book writers. Hard to say. Japanese is tricky.

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

SnappieVouz

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Did you ever hear of 'deposit tilt', tommy?

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Tommy Angelo

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Did you ever hear of 'deposit tilt', tommy?



No I haven't. Sounds like fun though. What is it?

Posted over 2 years ago

SnappieVouz

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It's what I tend to do.
I start tilting because of ..something (my 4 biggest ones are a couple of posts above this post).. while I am tilting really hard I can't quit (especially when tilting SUPER hard) because I keep telling myself I am not tilting, and then I start depositing money to make up for all the money I am losing at the moment because of tilt....

It's an amazing form of tilt, I should record it on video, must be youtube worthy

Posted over 2 years ago

CoRdo

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Thanks for all the awesome videos Tommy & Wayne, really changed my life.
What I consider essential is the great delusion topic. I watched Fight Club again just a few days ago and Tyler says "everything you posses, someday posses you" and I think this is true. But how do I get unattached to all those material things. Knowing that I am attached to them doesn't get me unattached to them.

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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It's what I tend to do.
I start tilting because of ..something (my 4 biggest ones are a couple of posts above this post).. while I am tilting really hard I can't quit (especially when tilting SUPER hard) because I keep telling myself I am not tilting, and then I start depositing money to make up for all the money I am losing at the moment because of tilt....

It's an amazing form of tilt, I should record it on video, must be youtube worthy



You might want to see if you can convert your "deposit tilt" into "watch how fast I can use my scissors to cut power to my computer" tilt. This could be a +EV play for you. :-)

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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But how do I get unattached to all those material things. Knowing that I am attached to them doesn't get me unattached to them.



The "path" of "enlightenment," whatever it is, and wherever it goes, is first and foremost different than the path you are walking. Attachment is so much a part of us that almost everyone almost all the time doesn't even know it's there. To undo something this fundamental is no minor matter. The only way you can gradually increase your non-attachment is to be willing to do some drastic shit. And then, you have to learn what that stuff is. And then, you have to do it about a billion times. So the answer to your question isn't "Here's what to do." The answer is, "Are you willing to do anything to get rid of the suffering that attachment causes?" If you are insufficiently desperate, then information about "how to" is unlikely to help, because you won't be insane enough yet to actually take up the practice. If you are ready, I think this is as good a place to start as any:

www.tommyangelo.com/meditation101.html

Posted over 2 years ago

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We have uploaded a new version of Episode 8, this is now the full video. The mp4, m4v, mp3, and wmv are all new and longer in content then previously.
-Rusty

Posted over 2 years ago

orestto

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YES. Finally that small but noticeable feeling of something being incomplete in my life is gone. This has been the best series I've watched on any poker training site. Congratulations Tommy, Wayne, and DC. You are the nuts.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Tommy, where have you learnt all this stuff? Books articles etc, i want it all! Smile

/ P

Posted over 2 years ago

Woodge121

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Just beautiful

Now to release the music

Posted over 2 years ago

dia

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I think this is the best series of videos posted on any poker site so far .

Posted over 2 years ago

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Fantastic series, in every single way.

I can't wait to watch it all over again.

Thank you Tommy and Wayne for making that much more sense of life.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Sincerest gratitude Tommy and Wayne for the best and most helpful series of poker videos ever. I'd imagine Tommy's gonna be booked pretty solid for coaching for a while now if he wasn't already. This series is going to be have a permanent place on my iPhone.

I can't afford the coaching, but I'll sure be buying Tommy's book this week. Thanks again.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Thanks for all the awesome videos Tommy & Wayne, really changed my life.
What I consider essential is the great delusion topic. I watched Fight Club again just a few days ago and Tyler says "everything you posses, someday posses you" and I think this is true. But how do I get unattached to all those material things. Knowing that I am attached to them doesn't get me unattached to them.



I've thought about that movie a lot since watching this series and even more as I'm learning more about Zen and Buddhism. If you've got the time here is a great article http://www.unomaha.edu/~jrf/vol11no2/ReedFightClub.htm

Posted over 2 years ago

TerrorBlade

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This is the pinnacle of human achievement, no joke.

Fantastic, fantastic series. The subscription pays for it self on this content alone. You two have steered me back on track as I was very prone to tilt before but I'm consciously noticing lack of tilt when I get 2 outered for the 3rd time in a row.

Now when that happens I say "Money would have gone in all the same if the positions were switched therefore this is an EV=0 spot" and I banish it from my mind.

Like someone else who has posted feedback my gf who doesn't play poker has watched the first episode and loved it, this is like general life self-improvement series in the sense that ANYONE can benefit from it.

Tommy & Wayne are the nuts.

<3<3<3

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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Tommy, where have you learnt all this stuff?



Mostly from two-outers.

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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Now to release the music



Just started on that last night! Eventually it will be at this address:

www.tommyangelo.com/the_eightfold_path_to_poker_enlightenment.html

(The page is not published yet.)

When the music is there, I will blog about it here:

tommyangelo.com/blog

And I will tweet about the music page when it is published. My tweet name is thetommyangelo.

Like it says it episode 8... stay tuned!

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

KRANTZ

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Yeah, we're the nuts.

Tommy, Wayne, you guys are alright too.

Posted over 2 years ago

KRANTZ

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Oddly enough, I also made my gf watch Episode 1. I guess it's got that "mustshowsomeonewhohasboobsasap" kind of appeal.

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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Yeah, we're the nuts.



In the before-Moneymaker_time, at my huge family reunions, I recall trying to explain what "the nuts" means, at poker and at life. Of course it was hard for anyone first hearing that phrase to suppress the giggles long enough to hear about what it meant. Now, those same people come up to me at the reunions and in dead seriousness say things like, "I had the nuts and I milked them for all I could."

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

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I've read a lot of posts saying things like, "Thank you Tommy, Wayne, and DC, for making this series.”

I seem to be unable to say the words “you’re welcome” with integrity. That’s probably because it feels to me like thanking me for writing stuff is like thanking a raindrop for being wet. That’s not to say there’s something wrong with thanking a raindrop for being wet. I can imagine situations where that would be quite appropriate. It’s just that I wouldn’t be surprised if the raindrop didn’t say anything back, and if it did, it would probably say, “Who? Me? What’d I do? All I did was fall through the sky like all the other raindrops and go splat.”

Let’s move on to something I’m better at…

Thank you Joe, Rob, Jay, Chris, and Chuck. This thank you comes in two parts. First is the general thank you from the poker community for making this very special place in the poker cosmos. And second is from me for saying yes to me so many times.

Thank you Rob Cole (aka Entity), the unsung hero of this project. Rob is The Carpenter. He is the scaffolding. He is the polish. Rob is a like a huge slave-labor force that doesn’t eat or complain.

Wayne and I made the audio tracks, and we scripted the visuals. All of the slides were made by Rob. All of the 8 movies were constructed by Rob. Many creative decisions were made by or guided by Rob.

Rob and I made the first three movies sitting side by side. The other six we made remotely. We had hundreds of opportunities to stress out. One time we were talking and we realized that if we get all stressed out while working on a project whose primary purpose is to teach about how to reduce stress, we must be doing something fundamentally wrong.

Dear Wayne: Thank you for losing everything to a hurricane and moving to Vegas. Thank you for starting the radio show called “Bibliothech” on holdemradio.com and inviting me on your show to talk about my book. Thank you for then having the idea that we do a series of broadcasts on holdem radio where we talk about you and your poker and I try to help you fix it. Thank you for keeping that idea alive after your radio show ended, an idea that molded and morphed itself into what became EPTPE.

But mostly, Wayne, thank you showing us that it’s all okay. It’s okay to freefall. It’s okay to go splat. It’s okay to phase change into vapor and be lifted up, just to fall again. I have no idea what I’m saying now. Thank you Wayne.

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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I've thought about that movie a lot since watching this series and even more as I'm learning more about Zen and Buddhism. If you've got the time here is a great article http://www.unomaha.edu/~jrf/vol11no2/ReedFightClub.htm



I saw Fight Club when it came out and not since. Definitely going to watch it again with a fresh perspective. Thanks.

Posted over 2 years ago

SnappieVouz

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Keep breathing while you two getting so many compliments it's easy to get lifted into air

It was a great serie

Posted over 2 years ago

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A little more than two years ago, TT asked me to arrange a limo for Joe Tall and his beautiful bride for their wedding. I said I would be happy to do so and would even drive them. And that's how I met Tommy, who is now my best man.

His wife Kathleen asked his friends to write something for Tommy's 50th birthday and I said that was easy. "If Tommy is your friend, you think you're his best friend." He really is my best friend, because they just don't come any better.

I'm so incredibly lucky. My friends include this remarkable guy, TT, Joe Tall, Entity, Krantz, the incomparable Death Donkey, Sklansky, Malmuth and Mike Minkoff of Professionalpoker.com, and a dozen more. Had it not been for Hurricane Charley, none of these people would be in my life.

That's what is known as hitting a one-outer.

I cannot thank you all enough, who have downloaded and listened and written us about the series. We put all we had into it, and you have told us it was worth the effort. Tommy and I have enjoyed your reactions. We thought we had something, but you let us know we did, and we thank you.

Best wishes to all, and we hope you suffer less and love it more.

Thank you, Tommy, and you are most certainly welcome.

Wayne Lively
Las Vegas, NV

Posted over 2 years ago

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Hey guys,

thanks for this remarkable series. Before watching this, I know I had a problem with tilting, but i wasn't quite sure what exactly the problem was, or even how to fix it. Thanks to you, now I know:
It's definitely the living-in-the-past/future-thing.

I remember situations where my thoughts where so heavily clouded by a previous hand that, no matter how hard I tried, I wasn't able to get back to the present tense for the rest of the whole session/night. And that caused even more tilt, and so on. And it all happened like "undercover".
You picked the words perfectly: "Accumulation of stuff"
And now there is breathing & sitting up straight Smile

One more thing: You mentioned movies as a good remedy for coming back to the present tense, I really liked the idea. And right when you said it, I thought of the poker table you're sitting at as a movie. I guess that would be mindful watching. Watching the movements, colours, actions, clothes etc. just like you would in a movie to calm your mind/body. Didn't try it yet, but I think it could work for me.

Would love to see more of you ! Thank you much

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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One more thing: You mentioned movies as a good remedy for coming back to the present tense, I really liked the idea. And right when you said it, I thought of the poker table you're sitting at as a movie. I guess that would be mindful watching. Watching the movements, colours, actions, clothes etc. just like you would in a movie to calm your mind/body.



Yes. Exactly.

Didn't try it yet, but I think it could work for me.



No doubt it will.

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

tomten12

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Do you have any plans for a second serie? If so, please give us a nugget.

I have seen videos from several training sites. I think this is on a top five of quality. You adress so much which is so important and neglected if we want to make a living of playing poker.

TYVM!

I know my English sucks

Posted over 2 years ago

Gauss

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curious if you wrote that swing into beethoven? thats really quite good. thanks for the series.

Posted over 2 years ago

QuadDeuces

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This really is the best video series I have ever seen on any poker site, my girlfriend doesnt play poker and doesnt want to learn but she still loves this series.



Wait..this is a poker series? The piano is sooo relaxing and the voices soooo smooth the poker content could be zero and it would still be worth it. Amazing the number of non-poker-playing GFs/wives who've watched this.

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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Do you have any plans for a second serie? If so, please give us a nugget.



No plans. I have intentionally decided to not know what comes next, projectwise. Could be a book, a screenplay, a theater show, a soundtrack. As of now I am in a planned no-plan zone. I plan to end the no-plan zone in a few months. At that time, I will have plans, or at least I'm planning to. Hard to be sure about these things. :-)

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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curious if you wrote that swing into beethoven?



Yes. (Although I would say "arranged" rather than "wrote.")

Posted over 2 years ago

TheLife

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Tommy,

May seem like an odd question but since I wear glasses too I was just wondering. Do you usually meditate with or without glasses? I tend to wear them since I'm wearing them most of the day but I was wondering if maybe I should be wearing them only for things like Driving or Poker?

On a related note, what would a Buddhist think about Lasik Eye Surgery?

Thanks,
Nick

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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Tommy,

May seem like an odd question but since I wear glasses too I was just wondering. Do you usually meditate with or without glasses?



Always without. But not for any reason related to the meditating. I only started wearing glasses a few years ago. They are for distance, and I don't wear them around the house.

I tend to wear them since I'm wearing them most of the day but I was wondering if maybe I should be wearing them only for things like Driving or Poker?



Don't know.

On a related note, what would a Buddhist think about Lasik Eye Surgery?



I think a Buddhist would think that all technology, from beaver dams to human dams, from bird's nests to skyscrapers, is just an extension of whoever made it, and part of the universe like everything else. The brim of a baseball cap helps a fielder see better. Lasik Eye Surgery helps a person see better. All the same. All good.

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

TheLife

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Mindworm

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Wayne, breathe. You won't regret it.

Posted over 2 years ago

RapidEvolution

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Thank you so much for this series, guys. If I copy/pasted the words "thank you from the bottom of my heart" over and over until it took up the entire page, it still wouldn't accurately reflect my gratitude.

Posted over 2 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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I thought the series was...meh.




And by meh, I mean - of such high quality that it created such a chasm between DC and all other sites that one could not fathom choosing anything over DC.

Posted over 2 years ago

Bigfish

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How the music release going for you Tommy?

/ z

Posted over 2 years ago

Sonic Tilt

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Great series guys. It was definitely different than what I expect but exactly what I needed. If you're building a house and the foundation is shaky then it's only a matter of time for your house to go under. I felt that's been happening with my poker dreams. I would go on these sick runs and lose it all from tilt or many other leaks that I've now labeled and been honest with myself about as I work hard to eliminate them. It will take time but I'm going to work on bettering my A-Game through Deuces Cracked, lop off more of my C-Game and get better at meditating regularly (used to do it a lot but somehow it seems to fall to the backburner when life gets hard. That's the time when I need to most though) anyway great series and I heard Tommy on the twoplustwo podcast. Great stuff. Thanks guys. Hope to hear another 8 path episode in a year to see if Wayne is doing any meditating Smile See ya

Posted over 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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How the music release going for you Tommy?

/ z



Big progress is highly probable this week. The new EPTPE area at my site will have mp3's of most of the music from the series, and other stuff. The over-under line on completion is one month. Thanks for asking/nudging. :-)

Tommy

Posted over 2 years ago

lodgeistics

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I never realized how much of a tilter I was until I listened to this series.

Thanks for the chance to be aware of myself, and giving me some suggestions on how to improve my tilt.

Honestly, re-listening to this video is a great way to get me to come down off of my tilt.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Nice and inspiring series, but I must say it: the musical intermezzos are the most awfully chosen musical themes I've ever thought someone must think of. At a point, I suspected this is on purpose: to tilt listeners so as to make them more aware of the theme's importance.

Posted about 2 years ago

Bonito

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Im having a problem with this video.

I wanted to watch it again and I click the link to this episode and it never stops buffering.

Is anyone else having this problem. Also I tried other videos and this is the only one its happening with.

Any advice?

Posted about 2 years ago

robo

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I can't get vid to run endless buffering

Posted about 2 years ago

Ruaction

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Could someone possibly send me a jpg of the animated Tommy Angelo BLUE cap? I find the image oddly soothing and I think that it would be great to have as an avatar to remind oneself to stay in the moment, etc.

Posted about 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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Could someone possibly send me a jpg of the animated Tommy Angelo BLUE cap? I find the image oddly soothing and I think that it would be great to have as an avatar to remind oneself to stay in the moment, etc.



Check your PM's. :-)

Posted about 2 years ago

Acombfosho

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I thought you would like this website on meditation, do you think it is a good guide?

http://www.meditationexpert.co.uk/sitemap.html

I would like to start meditation daily as part of my 2010 goals.

Posted about 2 years ago

Tommy Angelo

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I thought you would like this website on meditation, do you think it is a good guide?

http://www.meditationexpert.co.uk/sitemap.html



Looks good to me! I poked around for a while and learned a few things, confirmed a few things, and got good reminders of a few things.

I would like to start meditation daily as part of my 2010 goals.



The best advice I've ever received or given is that the main thing is to set aside the time and stick with the commitment to the TIME. Filling in the blanks as to what you do with the time is of secondary importance. If you put in the time every single day and never miss a day, that's the main thing.

Posted about 2 years ago

CasinoR7

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I loved this series, because I have been doing yoga and meditation for years and I love how it relates to the poker game as much as the mathematical or western psychological ideas.

Posted about 2 years ago

funkyj

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With regard to playing the blame game...at what point are you responsible to speak the truth (right speech)?
...



I just finished the series (audio on the iPod is a great thing) and I had the exact same thought when accepting blame was discussed.

My example / question is: Presumably we all agree that Martin L. King's struggle for black american civil rights was a good and just cause. A good philosophy should not lead us to reject fighting for justice. Perhaps there is a way for Buddhism to lead us to the same action but for reasons other than justice.

Does the Dalai Lama believe the goal of Tibetan independence is a bad goal?

I see value in avoiding the blame game but I'm not clear how this would lead to the right action of struggling against Jim Crow or South African apartheid.

Posted almost 2 years ago

funkyj

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Nice and inspiring series, but I must say it: the musical intermezzos are the most awfully chosen musical themes I've ever thought someone must think of. At a point, I suspected this is on purpose: to tilt listeners so as to make them more aware of the theme's importance.



As I was finishing episode 8, I was thinking the exact opposite! The musical choices were fantastic counterpoint to the topics discussed and the occasional unrecognized intros (e.g. comfortably numb) that morph into the clearly identifiable melody at just the right time was masterful. Of course the music is skewed towards someone with a background in classic rock (at least on the pop side of the music)

The music may not work for everyone but for me everything about this series was a home run! The 8 fold path has a permanent home on my iPod because I plan to listen to it many times in the coming years.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Gauss

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I watched this whole series and I still want to go to the zoo and punch a penguin right in the face, everytime I lose a hand. Help!

I will not be attached to winning , I will not 3be attached to winning. I will......... omfg KJTQ every time I have AA goddammit #$#(&%(#&(@! a duck.

Posted over 1 year ago

fishtastic

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Thank you for this most excellent series, Tommy and Wayne.

Posted over 1 year ago

Joeyg50

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I just finished the series (audio on the iPod is a great thing) and I had the exact same thought when accepting blame was discussed.

My example / question is: Presumably we all agree that Martin L. King's struggle for black american civil rights was a good and just cause. A good philosophy should not lead us to reject fighting for justice. Perhaps there is a way for Buddhism to lead us to the same action but for reasons other than justice.

Does the Dalai Lama believe the goal of Tibetan independence is a bad goal?

I see value in avoiding the blame game but I'm not clear how this would lead to the right action of struggling against Jim Crow or South African apartheid.



MLK was fighting for his rights and the rights of his people. He wanted to give his children better lives. Justice would be him wanting revenge for the atrocities that were put on his people. To me Justice in this sense is more like a revenge type thing. It would be like Tibet being given it's independence and then seeking sanctions or war w/ china. I think the pursuit of happiness for u and ur fellow country men or ethnic group and the fight that goes with it is not seeking justice. In South Africa most of the people that participated in aparteid were given slaps on the wrist in most cases. Justice would be seeking death penalty for all. Anyway sorry to get too deep into this just my opinion.

Posted over 1 year ago

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Time Link to 00:32:59

The time I tilt the most is when, in my mind I want to play a hand, then talk myself out of it and fold. The flop comes and I would have flopped the joint with tons of action happening. I am shot for the whole night thinking about that...

Posted over 1 year ago

RiverdogAVFC

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When i find myself in times of trouble
Tommy Angelo comes to me
speaking words of wisdom
LET IT BE

Thanks guys for an amazing series!!

Posted over 1 year ago

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I'm not suffering any more!

Grin

Thank you

Posted about 1 year ago

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should put a disclaimer in the blame game segment when it comes to law and such. As I love the idea of the not putting blame on anyone, when it comes to the law, the courtroom will likely sentence you to jail if you don't blame someone else for murdering someone you've never seen before Poke Tongue

Posted about 1 year ago

ceegee

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well done. I really enjoyed the series, and I think it's exactly what I needed in my life. If you check out my blog under the title tommy angelo saved my life, you can see why this series has helped me big time with a lot of different aspects of unhappiness.

Thank you!

Also was nice meeting both of you in Vegas, and I can't wait to see you guys again after having practiced everything in this series.

Posted about 1 year ago

JS7

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Wow, thank you so much for this series. I'm going quite tough time in my life and this series gave me new kind of hope and energy, I really think I can become a truely happy person.

Posted about 1 year ago

notunwell

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Thank you Tommy and Wayne. I will definitely be watching this series once a year. This series has dramatically improved my game and life.

Posted about 1 year ago

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First of all:
This was a rly great and valueable series - thank you both very muchSmile

@the "Not-Blaming-stuff":
I can only hope that this concept is not like it seems after the few minutes you have been talking about.
I rly hope that there is more sense inside and it is not correct to applicable it always.

Extreme example:
Someone you have in accident observed murdered a girl.
He is fleeing after the action and in this moment the police arrives
They are accusing you to have done this criminal action.
And now you shall be the biggest stupid idiotic victim who is alive and say "ok" and nothing more?

Ah,
come on.
I absolutely cannot agree here with myself.

There has to be more behind this concept and hence this part was tbh pretty disappointed.

Besides of this,
as said,
the whole series was great and also this part had much helpful stuff inside.

Posted about 1 year ago

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If I may anticipate Tommy's response here, I think the idea is that whatever life throws at you, you have it within your power to choose to interpret it as a test - 'the Practice never ceases'. If you have a sense of moral and social justice which overrides your personal journey of self-development, that's up to you and is not at odds with the teaching. In the case of someone who has committed themselves to a life as a Buddhist monk, being thrown into jail is a test that is entirely in line with the journey they have chosen. For the rest of us, that may not be the case, and that's fine.

However, to take an example from Western culture, Timothy Leary was unfairly targeted and imprisoned, including a long stint in solitary confinement. When a friend went to visit him, he said 'I'm so high right now, I often forget that I'm in jail'. And he didn't mean he was on drugs.

Posted about 1 year ago

Tommy Angelo

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If I may anticipate Tommy's response here ... In the case of someone who has committed themselves to a life as a Buddhist monk, being thrown into jail is a test that is entirely in line with the journey they have chosen. For the rest of us, that may not be the case, and that's fine.



Nailed it.

There are millions of little blamings we can move away from. When I first learned blackjack, I thought it was expected that I should blame the other players for hitting when they shouldn't and therefore giving me the wrong card. Later, I got wiser, and I stopped doing that kind of blaming. It seems so silly and absurd now, to blame in that way.

It's possible to keep stepping back from blaming -- leveling -- and to see other instances of blaming change in your perception from serious to silly. What monks do is irrelevant to all this because they are so many levels removed from us.

However, to take an example from Western culture, Timothy Leary was unfairly targeted and imprisoned, including a long stint in solitary confinement. When a friend went to visit him, he said 'I'm so high right now, I often forget that I'm in jail'. And he didn't mean he was on drugs.



Gandhi was in and out of jail, totaling about 7 years in jail. He wrote about looking forward to his time in jail, and teaching his fellow rebels to do the same.

Posted about 1 year ago

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I hear ya about the line...I do this too often, have many winning days in a row and then that one devastating day...

Posted 11 months ago

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Tommy Angelo

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Thanks for the headsup on the links. My site just got a total makeover. I'll get those links fixed soon.

Posted 10 months ago

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Hey, great video, just a short comment about music, pitch and rythm.
Actually, If you sing random pitches, you are also generating rythm.
as soon as you sing a note and stop it, there is a pulse.

This becomes especially apparent when you sing two pitches in a row. How would you even get the second started without generating some form of rythm.

:-)

Equally important as far as I'm concerned.

Now of course related to commercial music, random notes is of course maybe not music in many peoples ears, but for some they might be.

Keep up the great work, thanks for the quick delivery of your book! Love it!

Frode

Posted 8 months ago

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What is the piece of music that starts at 32:51? It's really great!

Posted 6 months ago

Tommy Angelo

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What is the piece of music that starts at 32:51? It's really great!



That's a song by The Who from their Quadrophenia album called "Love, Reign O'er Me."

If you want to download the 32:51 piano rendition of that song without all that talking going on, go here:

http://tommyangelo.com/the-eightfold-path-to-poker-enlightenment/#music

It's the fourth link under the "ROCK" heading.

Posted 6 months ago

davibocce

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The MP4 version of videos for the last three episode (6,7,8) do not show any video. Just audio. Is this a known issue?

WMV videos are fine.

Posted 3 months ago

DaLouis

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Could someone please tell me what the music is at 22:20 is? Or just impro?

Posted 23 days ago

DaLouis

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That's a song by The Who from their Quadrophenia album called "Love, Reign O'er Me."

If you want to download the 32:51 piano rendition of that song without all that talking going on, go here:

http://tommyangelo.com/the-eightfold-path-to-poker-enlightenment/#music

It's the fourth link under the "ROCK" heading.



Thank youSmile.

Posted 23 days ago

Tommy Angelo

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Could someone please tell me what the music is at 22:20 is? Or just impro?



Just improv. Here's the full 4-minute take that that part was sliced from:

http://tommyangelo.com/site_media/music/the-blues.mp3

Posted 23 days ago



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