Poker Video: Misc/Other by Tommy Angelo (Micro/Small Stakes)

This is a nice topic. I've recently increased the length of my online sessions and have noticed my win-rate plummeting. Subtle tilts related to missing actions, getting tired, and making bad decisions seem to want to creep into my game the longer I play. I definitely need to work on taking breaks and quitting to properly calibrate my game.

Just grinded a long session to get break even. I was down so much, it's insane

Still I believe this is one of the most important vids from Tommy till now. Quiting is crucial.

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On-line you always have your bankroll available but I also believe its bad to constantly check your bankroll during a session

How to aply a stoploss method?

Hey Tommy, I haven't watched this yet but I was wondering. Is it possible to be quitting too much?

I was more or less out of poker for six weeks or so for real life reasons that sucked and I'm finding it difficult to work my way back in.

The other day I had a session where I lost two 90+% equity pots on the river and didn't get too bothered but quit later when I did something stupid.

Then Saturday I was playing along and having a pretty mediocre to crappy session as nothing was going my way but I thought I was still playing well. My non showdown winnings was positive but I couldn't win a showdown for the life of me.

Then I get KK, raise, blah blah, flop comes J high, He checks, I bet, he calls. Turn is garbage. He checks, I bet, he minraises. I said to mysel "A check minraise on the turn is like ALWAYS the nuts." So I raised him and got to see his lovely set of jacks. I quit immediately.

So I'm pretty sure I'm making good quitting decisions but are there times when you should force things through to get things back on track just to make sure you stay in the habit of playing poker and not picking lint out of your belly button or playing euchre or something.

Not that there's anything wrong with playing euchre.

"Putting in enough hands" is something that is important for professionals, not for me as an amateur

"Putting in enough hands" is something that is important for professionals, not for me as an amateur

Putting in enough hands is never an issue.

Putting in enough well played hands and as a few poor played hands as possible, is however, quite important.

A MAJOR issue for me and some playes I know, is quitting when up to end on a high note. And I don't mean after a long solid session. I mean when the fish are high variance and you don't want to lose what you've won when your AK held up vs his JTs for a 200BB pot.

I have a hard time beating the fish and maximizing A-game time because I quit too early. I hope Tommy address this directly.

Awesome videos. I am really getting into Buddhism now. I wondered what are your thoughts on listening to music while playing online? Is it OK or too big of a distraction.

What you'll learn if you keep really getting into Buddhism is that everything is OK and everything is a distraction. :-)

I think it's fine to not listen to music, and it's fine to listen to it. Whatever works for you at that moment.

Tommy

"8 big bets a month. That's 84 big bets a year" Wayne, I'm pretty sure that's 96 big bets per year. Great series guys. Keep itup

Given our stormy relation I just want to make clear the below is no level of any kind, but the sad, sad truth. BTW I have mentally made peace wth u anyway !


Last night I played seven hours straight and lost $1200 at the 5/10 LHE level. When I finished, four in the mrning, it was bright outside. I don't really know what happened. I have studied ur book (as Im sure u are aware of ) and I thought he quitting section was the best one. I have decided to play 90min sessions and I have sticked to that for months. I did have these similar issues earlier in my "career" though.

Let me describe what happened yesterday and perhaps u can be a detective and figure out when things went wrong and what I should have done differently. Also it helps me clear my mind too I guess, aswell as providing some more content for this thread.

The first problem I can think of myself is that I have lived unhealthy the last weeks. I haven't been out much, nor have I exercised at all. A few walks that's all. Last week has been even slower. Not done much at all. I have eaten a lot of crap too I'm afraid. Aswelll as been pretty lonely. Do u believe these things affected my mental strength? I mean now that I have typed it out I guess it's pretty obvious it did.

Anyway yesterday I let a fellow DC member, who is at the level I was a couple of months back, sweat me for an hour. We started about 21. I felt ok by then. Our skype connecton kept failing so after an hour we decided to quit. I was still at the tables, stuck a couple of hundred and pretty frustrated allready I guess. After he left I kept playing.

One thing I want to point out was that I didn't do my pre-session routine, that I have done religiously the last months. It was in my Omakase vid with Joe Tall that he suggested I should do some kind of routine before each session to prepare my mind. So what I've done is to go out on my balcony and take ten deep breaths. I've really liked this. However since my friend was waiting I skipt it this time.

I'm trying to recall excactly what was going through my mind as I kept playing through the night. I remember I checked my cashier frequently. The table I thought were better than usual at this level, so that was something I remember thinking about. Everything is a bit blurry tbh. I didn't drink any alcohol, just coffee. But I felt really weird. In one way extremely tired and in an other very much awake. Just 10 hours after I can't remember excactly how it was.

I remember the last hour or so that I got really angry with some bad player who found a two outer in a 250 pot. I started berating him in the chat which is somethig I never do normally.

What made me quit was that I didn't wanted my BR to go under a certain level and when I was just $40 away I finally managed to sit out. Right now after getting some sleep I feel incredibly dissapointed and frustrated with myself. I can't believe I could have done it. It's not the money as much as all the work I just blew away. I will move down some levels to mentally come back. I want to develop but this crap just makes me go back weeks.

Ty for reading
Regards,

Peter

Now I've watched this episode and liked it very much! I think this is ur strongest area an u have some very good unique ideas here.

I found something we have in common, I think. Love for piano music. I noticed u played a lot of Beethoven so I wondered if u have listened to recordings by Wilhelm Kempff

Btw from now on I will always think of Grieg when I pee !

Just want to say this is a sick sick series and love it. I also love your book. So anyways, after I heard your cigarette example about quitting and how you'd go to the casino and just play 1 round then leave and see if you could make it home without buying cigarettes, I decided with about 6 minutes left in the video that I was going to practice my quitting while watching your video. So I did. I stopped with 6 min left. Normally once you get 90% through watching a video it seems silly not to just watch the last few minutes, but I resisted the temptation. My next step is when I read a book to read the whole thing in 1 sitting and stop with 1 chapter left. It makes quitting a poker session seem rather trivial. Thank you!

Great vid, I decided to quit poker.

Poker is a game of luck where the lucky ones tell the unlucky ones that it's a game of skill

I decided with about 6 minutes left in the video that I was going to practice my quitting while watching your video. So I did. I stopped with 6 min left.

lol

10 buyin stop loss !?! 10 ! 1 session ... yikes , i wouldnt be able to get out of bed for a week after a loss of 10 buy-ins in one session , mine is 3 buy-ins , although recently i had 2 , 6 buy-in losing sessions , one of those where you think bah set over set im not counting that towards my stop loss !
Great episode guys

I'm having some trouble with the MP3 version of this one. I've downloaded the whole series in MP3 wanting to make an MP3 CD to listen to in my car, but every time I try add episode 5 I get an error like "Media unsupported, a plug in may be required". Does anyone know why this is happening? All the others are fine. I have tried deleting & redownloading but get the same message.

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Is it safe to say as our A-game gets better, so does or C-game, or is getting rid of our current C-game that makes our A-game better? Or both?

I really enjoyed the videos. Any chance of a follow up series addressing more advance topics?