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Poker Video: MTT/SNG by fslexcduck (Mid Stakes)

Sick - thanks for this Vanessa.

Sick - thanks for this Vanessa.

agreed! hell yes!

Great video vanessa I feel like I would have played most of the spots the same so its good to validate my game a tad.

If you could in future vids put the player names its alot easier to pay attention and keep player reads especially deep in a tourney when that is so important. It also helps you not go through the read everytime or wonder if it is him

Thx for the video, clicking sound really tilting me thou

Thx for the video, clicking sound really tilting me thou

yeah not sure what she did with the mic but I couldn't remove the clicks, sorry guys.
-Rusty

We don't get to see what happened with the last hand? I guess that particular 97s wasn't pretty enough.

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God ur early MTT game betsizing is just so standard for MTT donks. I thought u played cashgames, any cash game player would realize that Cbetting half pot with that 66 against a donk is just burning money. And the KK 3bet sizing oop is just redic. Feel this is a problem almost all MTT pro's have early game. Its a great thing deep in tourneys as stacks get shallow, but its just shooting urself in the leg early on when the stacks are deep and the donks are everywhere.

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I think that stacks on SB and BTN makes him open a little bit tighter than he usually does? And you are also commiting yourself to call both of them, so I don t think that this is the best situation to 3 bet?

Time Link to 00:34:20

I agree that this is a good flat because there are a lot of semi-good players in SM who will squeeze here with ridiculous range(22+,A2s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87) because they don t realise that u may flat a monster here, and see a flat as a weakness.

the duck is so sick

but - she's my *fave* video coach

Time Link to 00:31:12

So we are not worried about the button there? Obviously we are committed if he has something, so just wondering if you consider stacks behind you when 3betting. Other question was what amount do you make it? I think it says 2450 but the chips block your amounts. Liking the video btw!

Time Link to 00:26:57

i agree with this play vanessa,personally i have run into spots where my knee jerk is a shove bc its "standard" realizing that when someone is changing gears in these kinda spots its generally bc they have a strong hand. like when a tag all the sudden limps 11BB or something too. if you know your villain its gotta raise red flags

Vanessa, as you said at the beginning you prefer playing tight than loose at the beginning of a tournament
like SM.
Some pros prefer to play superaggro because they know their nuts will be paid off, and randoms won't be able to 3bet them light.
What do you think?

Time Link to 00:37:16

dont you end up telegraphing what your hand is to some extent thou? not saying i dont agree with your logic, but i dont know if you are easily able to balance this line here

yeah not sure what she did with the mic but I couldn't remove the clicks, sorry guys.
-Rusty

it sounds like Vanessa's using a macbook? You can set the touchpad to "click" with finger taps instead of pushing the whole pad.

Great vid. looking forward to more..! Getting Aces = Good strategy .. Noted

Vanessa, as you said at the beginning you prefer playing tight than loose at the beginning of a tournament
like SM.
Some pros prefer to play superaggro because they know their nuts will be paid off, and randoms won't be able to 3bet them light.
What do you think?

i think she does this more because of the general tightness of most the players. if she wasn't playing a tourny where we could move people off hands i doubt she would play the same way. i think its more about adapting to the general field your playing

i think she does this more because of the general tightness of most the players. if she wasn't playing a tourny where we could move people off hands i doubt she would play the same way. i think its more about adapting to the general field your playing

I believed that it is profitable to play loose when they are tight and tight when they are loose. IN POSSITION OF COURSE

I don t want to argue (I play tight at the beginning too) but i want to show that there is another way of thinking at the first lvls

oh for sure. its an adjustment not "the word of god way to play"

Thanks for the vid!

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Would you ever c/r a Jx hand there letting villain bet his PP's knowing that he is more than likely folding to a double barrel?

hey duck
can you comment maybe about your well-known preference to play "stupidly aggressive" in the early rounds to build an intimidating stack?

how does that square with playing tight?

seems to me that playing classic tight and aggressive (a/k/a taggy) is polar opposite of "stupidly aggressive" - in fact, it's more like super-smart-aggressive

dazed & confused **

Cards are blocking the bet amounts. Plz fix for next vid.

Fantastic! Thanks Vanessa!

I can't believe you called the sunday million a deepstacked tournament... good advice about getting aces a lot though. I've played many tournaments and still struggle with that sometimes.

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bahaha. I'm am going to work on that "Aces" strategy and get back to you

. I've played many tournaments and still struggle with that sometimes.

i think all tourny players struggle with this

I can't believe you called the sunday million a deepstacked tournament... good advice about getting aces a lot though. I've played many tournaments and still struggle with that sometimes.

Yeah sunday million is not very deep stacked late

it sounds like Vanessa's using a macbook? You can set the touchpad to "click" with finger taps instead of pushing the whole pad.

So in fact Vanessa did use her macbook while travelling in Vegas. She is very busy the next couple weeks with various tournaments in LA and Vegas so she won't have a chance to re-record these Sunday Million videos, which she recorded all together last weekend. We've noted the macbook noise and she will avoid it in all future recordings. Thanks guys.
-Rusty

hey duck
can you comment maybe about your well-known preference to play "stupidly aggressive" in the early rounds to build an intimidating stack?

how does that square with playing tight?

seems to me that playing classic tight and aggressive (a/k/a taggy) is polar opposite of "stupidly aggressive" - in fact, it's more like super-smart-aggressive

dazed & confused **

Hey there - I think I'm playing pretty aggro in the pots I'm in to try to win them and try to build a stack, but I'm not playing very many hands where I have to rely on bluffing, because so many players are bad and bluffing just doesn't work very well. If you play a better hand selection, you will have it more often, and therefore be able to value bet very aggressively with some occasional bluffs mixed in, which I think is the best strategy early on in this sort of field.

groovy!
thx 4 the reply

What do you suggest in both cases?

God ur early MTT game betsizing is just so standard for MTT donks. I thought u played cashgames, any cash game player would realize that Cbetting half pot with that 66 against a donk is just burning money. And the KK 3bet sizing oop is just redic. Feel this is a problem almost all MTT pro's have early game. Its a great thing deep in tourneys as stacks get shallow, but its just shooting urself in the leg early on when the stacks are deep and the donks are everywhere.

What do you suggest in both cases?

Time Link to 00:31:12
So we are not worried about the button there? Obviously we are committed if he has something, so just wondering if you consider stacks behind you when 3betting. Other question was what amount do you make it? I think it says 2450 but the chips block your amounts. Liking the video btw!

I was wondering the same thing as Skitz about the 75s hand, what about the SB and the button? The SB and button's ranges may be pretty wide here because of the potential dead money and your image as a live player? Do you think the SB calling could ever induce the HJ to call as well because of pot odds (wasn't sure if your sizing was 2150 or 2450)? Loved the video though but just can't wrap my head around this one.

Thx for the video, clicking sound really tilting me thou

Awesome Vid! That clicking sounds a lot like the mouse pad on a macbook pro! I loved mine until I got my apple mouse, Its the shizz! I'm halfway through the second vid watchin' fools get vanessaED! lol

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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAISE

Love the vid thanks a lot Vanessa.... I agree with some spots mentioned before in the thread about checking stacks behind when threebetting.... curious about the spot superjenium mentioned (who by the way has gone deep in the last two sunday millions or so)..... btw I guess Vanessa refers to sunday million as deepstacks to begin the tournament like in the WSOP etc... but it usually plays pretty shallow in the late stages. Pureprofitfo is pretty LAG I like the way u played against him overall.... Althought the hand with 66 how about threebetting small/folding to a 4bet vs him.....? He is minraising opening every time is folded to him usually ....once again thanks for the vid.. its awesome

at about 39 minutes with your j9s, are you folding to a river shove as a opposed to weak value bet call?

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Don't you think this is a very clear b/f on the river? Get called a lot by A high

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Vanessa in the J9 hand what turn & river combinations would make you fold to his turn bet/river bet assuming he uses the same bet sizes?

God ur early MTT game betsizing is just so standard for MTT donks. I thought u played cashgames, any cash game player would realize that Cbetting half pot with that 66 against a donk is just burning money. And the KK 3bet sizing oop is just redic. Feel this is a problem almost all MTT pro's have early game. Its a great thing deep in tourneys as stacks get shallow, but its just shooting urself in the leg early on when the stacks are deep and the donks are everywhere.

So what is the optimal betsizing? for the KK 3b and the cbet with 66 what should it be? I mean to doubt what vanessa is doin at any part and to call it "burning $" and her a "MTT donk" is pretty as u say redic...

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Hey Vanessa,

What would your play be if the situation was reversed? If your on the btn with TT facing a 3B from this opponent in the SB?

Time Link to 00:27:04

What about calling the 600 bet, hoping the blind call too and probably hit the 6 or give it up on the flop?

Time Link to 00:07:29

It's not really correct to say that a suited-A is only 3% better in equity than the offsuit equivalent. True that you will only make a flush 3% of the time by the river, but having a flush draw on the flop creating semibluff opportunities or even a backdoor on the flop that allows you to barrel a lot more turns makes the suited hand much better than the offsuit. I think someone who plays extremely well after the flop like Vanessa should play Axs liberally especially in a super-spewy field like the sunday million. You play really good, try to be in as many pots as possible with the fish!