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Ansky and Blah: Episode Eight

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Ansky and Blah: Episode Eight by Ansky, blah234

Ansky and Blah123 wrap up their series with a video review of Blah's play at $2/4 and $5/10 NLHE.

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Blah234 chose to stop wasting money at 4NL and learn the game of poker. After a year of learning from his peers and teachers on DeucesCracked.com we've paired him in a series with Ansky so that he can grow further and teach those stuck in the low-mid stakes like he used to be.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 65 minutes long
  • Posted 9 months ago

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Comments for Ansky and Blah: Episode Eight

Azurehaze

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Jenistotle

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Going to miss you guys. Great Series. Come back soon, please.

Posted about 1 year ago

nemeelucas

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Time Link to 00:38:01

When you check back on q9tcc as the pfr, it looks like you have showdown too. If I didn't have AT beat I am probably not going to just bet turn just b/c you checked.

Posted about 1 year ago

r0und3r

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@53 min: i just wanna know what happened in the background Grin hahha

Posted about 1 year ago

nemeelucas

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Time Link to 00:40:25

A thinking player might RR you on 9tqcc and know that they're sort of protected against your rebluffs on that board. When you 3bet he will know that you're getting it in 100bbs deep on this board.

I disagree that there aren't any 0 equity hands that will raise this flop. It hits BB's perceived defending range and your actions after his RR narrows your range. It seems like a good spot to raise some 0 equity hands vs blah here.

Posted about 1 year ago

blah234

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A thinking player might RR you on 9tqcc and know that they're sort of protected against your rebluffs on that board. When you 3bet he will know that you're getting it in 100bbs deep on this board.

I disagree that there aren't any 0 equity hands that will raise this flop. It hits BB's perceived defending range and your actions after his RR narrows your range. It seems like a good spot to raise some 0 equity hands vs blah here.



While I may not 3 bet that board without a hand, I'm also not cbetting that board too often -> almost never bet/folding on that board so why would it be a good spot to raise with some 0 equity hands?

If you notice someone raise a 0 equity hand on these boards and barrel off then all you need to do is never have a 3 bet flop range, just call down with everything you want to continue with.

Posted about 1 year ago

nemeelucas

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While I may not 3 bet that board without a hand, I'm also not cbetting that board too often -> almost never bet/folding on that board so why would it be a good spot to raise with some 0 equity hands?

If you notice someone raise a 0 equity hand on these boards and barrel off then all you need to do is never have a 3 bet flop range, just call down with everything you want to continue with.




I agree that you wouldn't just auto cbet that flop, but your opening range is wider than villain's defending range (usually, i dont know villain). I guess it helps that you can have 8j/qq and he can't but I think you still end up with more hands that need to bluff to win.

You're not cbetting anything with a chance for SD but are you never bluffing as the btn opener on this board? I know you don't have to worry about protecting against random c/rs on draw heavy boards, I'm just saying it would help villain's game to even show you he's capable of airball bluffs here. Which, given the action, is what he had, but it looks like he just raised you to raise you. In game would you have noticed that he RR/fold on that flop?

Yeah, once you've seen villain do it, villain shouldn't do it anymore. But then villain should then be adjusting against the fact that you've seen it too and be raising for thinner value next time.

Posted about 1 year ago

blah234

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I agree that you wouldn't just auto cbet that flop, but your opening range is wider than villain's defending range (usually, i dont know villain). I guess it helps that you can have 8j/qq and he can't but I think you still end up with more hands that need to bluff to win.

You're not cbetting anything with a chance for SD but are you never bluffing as the btn opener on this board? I know you don't have to worry about protecting against random c/rs on draw heavy boards, I'm just saying it would help villain's game to even show you he's capable of airball bluffs here. Which, given the action, is what he had, but it looks like he just raised you to raise you. In game would you have noticed that he RR/fold on that flop?

Yeah, once you've seen villain do it, villain shouldn't do it anymore. But then villain should then be adjusting against the fact that you've seen it too and be raising for thinner value next time.



I don't need to win every pot, my opening range is irrelevant here. Villain is only looking at my cbetting range on this flop. When we pick a hand to bluff we want our range to have the most equity vs villain's calling range as possible. By bluffing with 0 equity hands, it means that we should be bluffing with 100% of our range. There are cases for that but I don't think this is one of those cases.

Posted about 1 year ago

Buby2132

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After watching this, as Ansky pointed out, you seem to be snap decision making. Some better players will use timing tells frequently.

Do you use timing tells at all versus other players to develop reads? If so, in what ways?
Were you aware it was a potential leak in your game previous to this video?

Mike

Posted about 1 year ago

blah234

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After watching this, as Ansky pointed out, you seem to be snap decision making. Some better players will use timing tells frequently.

Do you use timing tells at all versus other players to develop reads? If so, in what ways?
Were you aware it was a potential leak in your game previous to this video?

Mike



I don't use timing tells in my decision vs other regs. Once someone is multitabling, timing tell becomes inaccurate. Their reaction time will be mostly dependent on actions on other tables. Vs recreational players that are 1 tabling, timing tells can be pretty accurate.

I don't think it's big leak in my game as my timing tells are inaccurate as well. I often delay easy decisions when there are actions on other tables. It's something to consider though when you're playing especially not playing very many tables.

Posted about 1 year ago

nemeelucas

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I don't need to win every pot, my opening range is irrelevant here. Villain is only looking at my cbetting range on this flop. When we pick a hand to bluff we want our range to have the most equity vs villain's calling range as possible. By bluffing with 0 equity hands, it means that we should be bluffing with 100% of our range. There are cases for that but I don't think this is one of those cases.




I know this. I'm saying even when you are betting for value on this board, and get raised it's hard to play. Do you cbet ak, 2 crappy clubs, I don't think you shove/3bet those vs a RR. I was just saying your play vs his action will define your hand, and he doesn't have to put in a large bet at all to make things difficult for you with the majority of your range. So he should do it once in awhile, even with air, as long as he knows to readjust.

Posted about 1 year ago

nemeelucas

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"By bluffing with 0 equity hands, it means that we should be bluffing with 100% of our range. There are cases for that but I don't think this is one of those cases."

What? No you don't have to be bluffing with 100% of your range just b/c you choose to bet a 0 equity hand sometimes. Why does it have to be all or nothing?

Also there are some marginal hands you could be betting that don't have enough SD and aren't drawing well enough to call a reraise on qt9cc.

Posted about 1 year ago

blah234

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"By bluffing with 0 equity hands, it means that we should be bluffing with 100% of our range. There are cases for that but I don't think this is one of those cases."

What? No you don't have to be bluffing with 100% of your range just b/c you choose to bet a 0 equity hand sometimes. Why does it have to be all or nothing?

Also there are some marginal hands you could be betting that don't have enough SD and aren't drawing well enough to call a reraise on qt9cc.



Whenever you pick a 0 equity hand to bluff and not bluffing with 100% of your range means that you're folding a hand with more equity and picking a hand with less equity to bluff with. This will reduce the EV of your overall range.

Posted about 1 year ago

nemeelucas

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Whenever you pick a 0 equity hand to bluff and not bluffing with 100% of your range means that you're folding a hand with more equity and picking a hand with less equity to bluff with. This will reduce the EV of your overall range.



Yes, but that doesn't mean people know this or will exploit the inbalance in your range just b/c you chose to bluff certain spots w/o equity. It's not like cbetting A or K high dry boards as the pfr, you don't need to be all that balanced. If you think you will get a fold really often you should still be bluffing.

I understand you're making the assumption that you need to be balanced or you run the risk of being obvious with the rest of your range and it's easy to hand read vs you. But the spot in our discussion doesn't come up terribly often, and as villain, just showing you he's willing to be unorthodox can have advantages as long as he's counter adjusting. It's a spot where he can create some meta-game and anticipate your adjustment so he can stay 1 step ahead of you.

I'm just saying a small raise from him vs your cbet in this spot (even though we know your cbet range is strong and is rarely air) is better than him calling oop with his entire range.

He doesn't ONLY have to have value/equity holdings to make a reraise profitable, even when you are likely to continue on this board. He's raising all his big hands, he can throw in some air balls once in awhile.

Posted about 1 year ago

Pokerfarm

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Time Link to 00:25:04

this guy is handsdown the best 1knl+ reg on the network atm, message me if ur interested in speaking about some regs morguath. Im the fps fish from ur 1st video (jammyjenny) Smile

Posted about 1 year ago

mihic

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It was a great series i really enjoyed watchig. I am mihic111 from the video. Usually i would probably sitout because i dont like to play 3 handed with other regulars. But this time i played because i hoped to be in the video Smile. And my dreams came true Grin

Posted about 1 year ago

LuigiVampa

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Time Link to 00:42:08

Why do you cbet AK on J66r? Don't you think c/c is better?

Posted about 1 year ago

blah234

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Why do you cbet AK on J66r? Don't you think c/c is better?


without knowning exactly how villain will play later streets cbet is better. You can barrel many cards on turn and river but if you c/c your hand looks exactly like what it is and it's near the buttom of your c/c range.

Think about it this way, if you c/c then the only way you win is if you spike before villain gives up bluffing and he has not have a pair. If you cbet you can win by spiking and having some chance that villain folds.

Posted about 1 year ago

terp

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Time Link to 00:27:23

'it's important not to have the bottom of your perceived value range when you have the bottom of your perceived value range'

everyone write this down

then, do it again

then, live by it

Posted about 1 year ago

terp

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Time Link to 00:47:03

yeah, a lot of fish who limp/mr then go for the uber tricky c/mr with their big hands

this does mean you get a four card flop, at least

Posted about 1 year ago

terp

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Time Link to 00:59:40

not only do you not gain much 4bet bluffing against a small PP heavy 3b range, you give up the opportunity to f them up postflop

if people's entire 3b gameplan revolves around your 4b or folding, flatcalling will surprise them and leave them forced to decide whether to barrel with crap equity hands

Posted about 1 year ago

StoppingFist

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Time Link to 01:03:25

You say getting better at poker is about getting better at technical aspects, fundamentals, math. Can you expand on this? Other than equity calculations, what are some other things to do?

Posted about 1 year ago

surfdoc

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Time Link to 00:47:06

Haha, this part is awesome. The ever common limp minreraise, check minraise line.

Posted about 1 year ago

surfdoc

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Time Link to 00:59:17

What do you guys think about this TT hand? Seems like the turn is a fold vs this tough reg who will often bet once or three times on this board.

Posted about 1 year ago

onehundred47

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very good series. Thank you both : )

Posted about 1 year ago

event78

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Great serie, great work Smile it's a pity it's only 8episods.

Posted 12 months ago



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