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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Ansky (High Stakes)

Great vid, lot of interesting spots. Would love to a see a live play vid if possible.

Time Link to 00:30:27

Ansky, here you say you have a stronger range for cbetting, but OTR imply that one could rep some bluffs on the river. It doesn't seem you get to the river with many bluffs.
Also, why would he bluff 88 with a ship but not with a bet when checked to if you're never check calling?

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in Hand 1 - How much would we be betting with TT on the river and why? What do we do if he jams (assuming this is before we knew he was capable of jamming 33)?

How much would we be betting with JT of hearts of QJ of hearts and why?

Time Link to 00:49:48

Is there anything you can take away read-wise from his bet size and the fold there?
Did he bluff/turn something into a bluff or bet for value never expecting to get bluffed raised?

Time Link to 00:19:38

So we'd likely be calling if he made his bet size bigger? I mean, so many of the hands in his range that we were behind on the flop and turn aren't value betting the river, but he is following through with a lot of his bluffs, no?

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would we be jamming the river with a 9 high flush against this guy?

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If we knew that he knows that we expect him to be bluffing that card a lot, how would that effect our river decision?

Does that make it less likely he will hero call us since we wouldn't have to turn a made hand into a bluff if we thought he was bluffing a lot - we can just call?

Or would that make it less likely that he actually is bluffing that card and therefore give him a stronger river betting range and make folding best?

Just a comment: this video was excellent. It seems almost a waste to do a live action video with you two. The interaction was stellar. I can follow Blah's logic, and to have Ansky giving constant rebuttals and back n forth dialog is really what learning is all about. Please stick to a similar format because it's far more in depth.

Nice video. I'd love to see this format again.

Ansky, here you say you have a stronger range for cbetting, but OTR imply that one could rep some bluffs on the river. It doesn't seem you get to the river with many bluffs.
Also, why would he bluff 88 with a ship but not with a bet when checked to if you're never check calling?

Because presumably he believes hes never good if we bet, but if we check he might be.

I could be bluffing with basically anything on the river, I would frequently check AK and the similar hands on the turn, but versus some I am definitely betting it sometimes.

in Hand 1 - How much would we be betting with TT on the river and why? What do we do if he jams (assuming this is before we knew he was capable of jamming 33)?

How much would we be betting with JT of hearts of QJ of hearts and why?

I wouldn't fold TT, because he might be jamming 33. My bet size on this river would probably be pretty consistent with most hands.

btw to back up what I said in video:

As Ks 44.44% 12 0
JT, JQ, 33, KJ, AJ 55.56% 15 0

check fold looks good.

Is there anything you can take away read-wise from his bet size and the fold there?
Did he bluff/turn something into a bluff or bet for value never expecting to get bluffed raised?

I would assume he had 2 pr or an overpair.

So we'd likely be calling if he made his bet size bigger? I mean, so many of the hands in his range that we were behind on the flop and turn aren't value betting the river, but he is following through with a lot of his bluffs, no?

yes id rather call the more polarized his range is.

would we be jamming the river with a 9 high flush against this guy?

given his bet size, probably.

Time Link to 00:48:28

What size are you betting on a brick turn card like 2? Like $380 into $640?

+1 to Stuey's Kid, Please continue with this format.

This is one of the best videos in terms of both structure and discussion that I have seen on DC. Blah asks lots of questions and defends his opinion without being blind to criticism. Dani analyzes all the angles in a considered and opened manner. I have been canceling my subs to other video sites due to the diminishing content, but efforts like this keep me with DC.

Thanks guys!

Time Link to 00:26:03

If we had a one heart hand, say AhQx or something similar would we ever want to bluff jam over his raise?

I think I know why he shoved the river in hand 1, though I was a bit surprised at first too when he showed 33. You say you bet large on the turn because your range there is strong. Well, your cbetting range 3way on this flop is also strong, but you bet less than 2/3rds pot there. You either have a betsizing tell, or if the flop is your standard size, it at least looks like you have a betsizing tell. When you bet <2/3rds on the flop and then bomb the Q turn, I think AK is by far your most likely hand, so he could make a thin value shove on the river (people that bet AK there tend to be the types that call the shove too, the ones that fold to a shove tend to c/f river to begin with).

Also when you say you don't have any reads on him because you haven't seen him do anything over 280 hands, that's a read on itself. The guy is straight forward, or you'd have seen more out of him. Valuebetting the river against a straight forward 10/20 reg there is very optimistic, and the call of the shove even more

Hand 2 (ATo on 833s), there's no need to balance in this spot. The only thing that matters is your perceived range. If he thinks your c/r's are bluffs, then never c/r bluff and c/r for thin value instead (or even as a bluff, so you can re-re-bluff him). If he thinks your flop c/c's are never strong hands (and adjusts to the fact), then c/c your strong hands. Yeah, it's hard for you to have many strong combos in your range on this board, but the same is true for him. If he's auto 3barreling when you c/c, you can c/c c/c CRAI, or triple c/c depending on how the board runs out, because his range will be just as weak as yours.

Also, if he plays huge pots at a high frequency, there's nothing wrong with playing more fit/fold. The stronger your range is, the bigger his mistake is when he plays large pots at too high frequencies.

And on the river, if you think your hand is a favorite on the turn vs his range, and you think he'll barrel the K almost 100%, then you can just c/c instead of CRAI. You beat all his bluffs and he's unlikely folding any of his valuebets imo. Lots of 55 spade type hands in your range, I doubt he folds AQ. Also agree with Ansky that the river betsize looks like value. My plan would be to c/c rivers, but when he bets half pot I'd abort.

I think I know why he shoved the river in hand 1, though I was a bit surprised at first too when he showed 33. You say you bet large on the turn because your range there is strong. Well, your cbetting range 3way on this flop is also strong, but you bet less than 2/3rds pot there. You either have a betsizing tell, or if the flop is your standard size, it at least looks like you have a betsizing tell. When you bet <2/3rds on the flop and then bomb the Q turn, I think AK is by far your most likely hand, so he could make a thin value shove on the river (people that bet AK there tend to be the types that call the shove too, the ones that fold to a shove tend to c/f river to begin with).

Also when you say you don't have any reads on him because you haven't seen him do anything over 280 hands, that's a read on itself. The guy is straight forward, or you'd have seen more out of him. Valuebetting the river against a straight forward 10/20 reg there is very optimistic, and the call of the shove even more

really good points, I knew I missed played the hand even right after the session and just want to get as much input as possible. What you said makes alot of sense.

Hand 2 (ATo on 833s), there's no need to balance in this spot. The only thing that matters is your perceived range. If he thinks your c/r's are bluffs, then never c/r bluff and c/r for thin value instead (or even as a bluff, so you can re-re-bluff him). If he thinks your flop c/c's are never strong hands (and adjusts to the fact), then c/c your strong hands. Yeah, it's hard for you to have many strong combos in your range on this board, but the same is true for him. If he's auto 3barreling when you c/c, you can c/c c/c CRAI, or triple c/c depending on how the board runs out, because his range will be just as weak as yours.

Also, if he plays huge pots at a high frequency, there's nothing wrong with playing more fit/fold. The stronger your range is, the bigger his mistake is when he plays large pots at too high frequencies.

And on the river, if you think your hand is a favorite on the turn vs his range, and you think he'll barrel the K almost 100%, then you can just c/c instead of CRAI. You beat all his bluffs and he's unlikely folding any of his valuebets imo. Lots of 55 spade type hands in your range, I doubt he folds AQ. Also agree with Ansky that the river betsize looks like value. My plan would be to c/c rivers, but when he bets half pot I'd abort.

Again good points, my actual and perceived range does have bunch a bunch of pp with a spade turned into a bluff here but I also have flushes and trips/boats. My standard is to c/f that spot maybe 8/10 times and turn my hand into a bluff pretty rarely like 2/10 times but never c/c to that bet. Wouldn't be very interesting and video worthy if I folded the river now is it?

Why not, it's about the spot though there's certainly place for entertainment value in videos.

It flowed a lot better than the first video where you guys interrupted each other quite a bit. Would love to see Ansky play in midstakes games full of regs on ftp or stars.

these are really good videos. I like it when you are asking a lot of questions.

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In Hand 2, if we are in villain's shoes, what's the worst hand we value bet on the river vs a good solid reg in the BB, what size do we make the bottom of our value betting range and why? Are we valuebetting anything less than AQ? Ever JJ-99, or QJ?

Amazing Video.

Amazing Video.

+1 definately like the hand replayer much more.

+1 definately like the hand replayer much more.

+1 , great video plz do next weeks in the same style

It flowed a lot better than the first video where you guys interrupted each other quite a bit. Would love to see Ansky play in midstakes games full of regs on ftp or stars.

I'm hoping for a video where Ansky plays and Blah can ask questions?

Btw the audio levels were a bit off imo. With some background noise (not in the video but in my room), in order to understand blah the volume had to be turned up to such a volume that Ansky became uncomfortably loud. So either Ansky has to turn down his mic, or blah has to increase it, or the volume has to be normalized in the production process (Rusty probably knows how to do that).

Time Link to 00:48:00

rofl @ deadpanned "Yeah, it'd be terrible. You'd want to kill yourself."

Really loved this format, thought it was a great video!

In Hand 2, if we are in villain's shoes, what's the worst hand we value bet on the river vs a good solid reg in the BB, what size do we make the bottom of our value betting range and why? Are we valuebetting anything less than AQ? Ever JJ-99, or QJ?

I've never played agasint the player "solid reg" so no idea how I would construct my betting range vs him. The more likely someone is to raise or fold the less you should value bet thinly. Value betting too thin vs certain players is a leak too.

Glad more people enjoyed the HH reviews.

I've never played agasint the player "solid reg" so no idea how I would construct my betting range vs him.

I know what you are saying - that you work to gather reads on your opponents, so "solid reg" is too vague. But my point was vs someone who you hadnt played long enough with to have detailed reads, but who seemed to be fairly competent from the few hands you have played with him. In other words, your standard play vs someone who was obviously a reg, but without in depth reads on him.

The more likely someone is to raise or fold the less you should value bet thinly. Value betting too thin vs certain players is a leak too.

If they are that likely to play raise or fold with their whole (or most) of their range, why can't you bet/call?

If they are that likely to play raise or fold with their whole (or most) of their range, why can't you bet/call?

this person is either a maniac or a nit. Watch coaching kristy on how to play against these player types.

Loved the format!!!

On the 98 suited hand where blah flops a huge combo draw and doesn't 4 bet agressively I was confused...

My coach told me last week on any combo draws raise with the intention of getting it allin.

Maybe my coach was wrong? Oh wait my coach is BLAH lololoolololololol

Loved the format!!!

On the 98 suited hand where blah flops a huge combo draw and doesn't 4 bet agressively I was confused...

My coach told me last week on any combo draws raise with the intention of getting it allin.

Maybe my coach was wrong? Oh wait my coach is BLAH lololoolololololol

I'm pretty sure I said to ship when we're OOP. IP I don't ship my draws that much on the flop because we have more options. But ansky made a good point that if we take more passive lines then it allows villain the chance to bluff us when the draw miss.

this person is either a maniac or a nit. Watch coaching kristy on how to play against these player types.

My point is this - you asserted that "the more likely someone is to raise or fold the less you should value bet thinly." This statement simply isn't completely true. It depends on what range they are going to raise when they go into raise or fold mode. Yes, if they are going to raise with most hands that beat you and fold most hands you beat, then you shouldnt value bet thinly (obviously). But if they are going to go into raise or fold mode and lean toward raising with a lot of made hands that you beat, then you can bet/call, and value betting thinly become profitable, despite your assertion that "the more likely someone is to raise or fold the less you should value bet thinly." And just because someone turns enough made hands into a bluff such that you have pot odds to call doesn't make them a maniac. Do you honestly think that most regs are always that balanced with their bluffs in every spot that you can never bet/call vs them when they are going to play raise or fold?? Have you never bet to INDUCE a bluff raise from made hands vs a reg?

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If the river paired the board and Villain instant ship it? Lets say a if T or J hit? Would you consider folding against this Villain?

If the river paired the board and Villain instant ship it? Lets say a if T or J hit? Would you consider folding against this Villain?

No, he can still be valueshoving worse and he might not fastplay a set like that 100% of the time, especially 200bbs deep. Even the worst river card for us, 3h, he could use as a scarecard to fire his air at.

If the river paired the board and Villain instant ship it? Lets say a if T or J hit? Would you consider folding against this Villain?

If I call here it's because I think villain will be likely to bluff alot of rivers so folding is out of the question. Like grindcore said villain can be jamming a worse flush as well.

enjoying this

Time Link to 00:50:51

Ansky says he doesn't like the river bluff because blah is representing exactly an 8 and there's just not that many 8s he can have. But earlier he suggested that he doesn't like jamming an 8 for value. Unless we think his range is either KQ/8x or complete air, then don't aren't those two things contradictory? If he can have hands in between a straight and air, then isn't either bluffing with AQ here or value jamming 8x here good, depending on what we expect him to do with his stuff in between?

Time Link to 00:21:15

EL OH EL

"It just sounds like he's not very good" (ho-hum)
- Ansky

After watching the first episode I was worried that your dispositions were far too incompatible to generate interest for the rest of the series, but this format generates great discussion which trumps those personality issues.

By the way, blah sounds like he could rave about 4 days and still have energy, while ansky sounds like he would blow your head off if he didn't like your snoring. Both very cool, just not compatible.

Time Link to 00:09:01

ansky you said that check/fold lets you play perfectly, but don't you think a lot of people would bet with AJ/KJ when checked to?

ansky you said that check/fold lets you play perfectly, but don't you think a lot of people would bet with AJ/KJ when checked to?

When I bet really big on the turn they should of folded most of their Jx hands. If I bet smaller on the turn then there might be merit in trying to get value or snap off a thin value bet from Jx hands.

When I bet really big on the turn they should of folded most of their Jx hands. If I bet smaller on the turn then there might be merit in trying to get value or snap off a thin value bet from Jx hands.

how often do you barrel that turn if you were bluffing? it seems like a kinda decent barreling card to me.. if he realizes that i don't see why he won't bluff catch with AJ/KJ(which also has equity for a straight) some of the time, right?

Time Link to 00:34:55

Shouldn't we throw in like a half pot sized bet for value vs TT-QQ? I'm not playing 5/10 but on 1-2 and 2/4 it seems to be standard that we should continue betting for value.

Shouldn't we throw in like a half pot sized bet for value vs TT-QQ? I'm not playing 5/10 but on 1-2 and 2/4 it seems to be standard that we should continue betting for value.

This is a common leak from most players. You cannot play vs a part of villain's range and must be looking at their entire range the whole time. Good player is not guaranteed to call with a bluff catcher when your bet sizing is saying that you are betting for thin value. They may jam that part of their range on you.

When I bet really big on the turn they should of folded most of their Jx hands. If I bet smaller on the turn then there might be merit in trying to get value or snap off a thin value bet from Jx hands.

Taking it one step further, I think that most AQ type hands probably raise the turn b/c of all the possible action killers.