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Tubasteve and his Baritones: Episode Three

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Tubasteve and his Baritones: Episode Three by tubasteve

Tubasteve and his groupies start on Matt's video this week. This video is new to all involved and is one of Matt's shots at 100NL.

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Tubasteve brings in two of his students in this fun miniseries. As a group they go through and review individual sessions played by each student with the premise that the students have met prior to the video and already discussed the highs and lows, and now Tubasteve will quiz them on their play and theories.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 70 minutes long
  • Posted almost 3 years ago

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tubasteve

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Hai guyz, hope you're liking the series so far.

Wanted to mention in the KQo hand, i also think his betsize 7->20 on the flop is likely to be a strong hand...if he wanted FE he would raise larger IMO. however, if he was a regular i would not nec. think this is the case since a regs likely to be better at balancing w/r/t bet sizing.

Posted about 3 years ago

dj_mercury

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Good video again.

In the AQ hand in table 4, where we 3bet and get called by the loose guy, would you consider checking back turn to induce if the turn would be more of a blank? I don't think we get 3 streets of value on that flop board texture without much history, unless villain is pretty bad.

In the last KK hand in table 3 I personally do not like the flat OOP, since our read on the possible squeezer is just a couple of hands where he appeared to be just slightly more aggro than usual, not enough to justify it. As played I think I rather prefer c/c flop and possibly donk turn or keep c/c down. Is true that you have underrepresented the hand preflop but you c/r the flop and still bet the turn on a TTx rainbow board and you don't have any kind of history with villain, so is not like he will be that inclined to call you down ultra light just because you represent such a tiny range.

I had the same problem as well when I first moved up to 100NL, I thought everyone was playing back at me and I was pissed to get raised, reraised, 3bet much more than before. The problem is that making calls just for the sake of calling with the only hope that villain is going to shut down, like on table 3 almost at the end of the video with K7s if I remember well on a 87x two tone board, you are gifting away free money that will have serious impact on your winrate.

Posted about 3 years ago

oneillsurfer03

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good vid and i think i have the same issues with regs that becasue i have seen some 4 bet fold that they all do it but good vid guys

Posted about 3 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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99vs3b Hand

Tuba, you mentioned called w/ 99 or TT when you get 3b by BB. I've noticed that MP and I play very similar styles and OOP we both like to end these situations preflop when most flops will include overs and make it tough to play. This just makes our lives easier, but might not be optimal. Can you explain some what ifs when we flat his 3b there? I'd be interested in hearing how to play mid pairs OOP to 3bs on various flop textures. Thanks Tuba!

Posted about 3 years ago

oneillsurfer03

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The AQ hand where we barrell on Qxxr obv it s pretty standard vs a fish to try to get stacks in on the river but my question is vs a reg who we play there i feel like that even though we have a very strong hand i dont think our shove on the river gets called by worse. Sometimes i bet the turn to induce and give them a pot sized shove so i can c/c the river if he decided to float and make some random bluff or shove a worse Q. I think vs a reg he might fold KQ or QJ to our river shove. I just htink we cant get called by much that we beat vs a reg but we can c/c profitably. Also checking gives him a chance to spew which is awesome for us.

Posted about 3 years ago

trial0r

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re: 66 oop vs 3bet discussion @~14:00

i dont think anyone mentioned that the sb has a $19.50 stack which should make btn's 3bet range entirely for value unless he's just spewing retardedly.

Posted about 3 years ago

tubasteve

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The AQ hand where we barrell on Qxxr obv it s pretty standard vs a fish to try to get stacks in on the river but my question is vs a reg who we play there i feel like that even though we have a very strong hand i dont think our shove on the river gets called by worse. Sometimes i bet the turn to induce and give them a pot sized shove so i can c/c the river if he decided to float and make some random bluff or shove a worse Q. I think vs a reg he might fold KQ or QJ to our river shove. I just htink we cant get called by much that we beat vs a reg but we can c/c profitably. Also checking gives him a chance to spew which is awesome for us.



ideally we need to establish a dynamic where we CAN get a reg to call us with Qx on the river. i also think you're more likely to get called if you shove the river than you are to get the reg to light value bet if you bet/bet/check, since if he's sitting on TPWK he can't really get value from many hands, but a 3-barrel could be a whiffed AK or something in his eyes.

Posted about 3 years ago

tubasteve

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re: 66 oop vs 3bet discussion @~14:00

i dont think anyone mentioned that the sb has a $19.50 stack which should make btn's 3bet range entirely for value unless he's just spewing retardedly.



yes this is definitely a consideration, but i think a small one

Posted about 3 years ago

tubasteve

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99vs3b Hand

Tuba, you mentioned called w/ 99 or TT when you get 3b by BB. I've noticed that MP and I play very similar styles and OOP we both like to end these situations preflop when most flops will include overs and make it tough to play. This just makes our lives easier, but might not be optimal. Can you explain some what ifs when we flat his 3b there? I'd be interested in hearing how to play mid pairs OOP to 3bs on various flop textures. Thanks Tuba!



On boards that have probably whiffed him often like J75 two-tone or just all low boards I'll just CRAI, and hope he'll can call me with worse (as well as protecting against a lot of gross turn cards). On something like Axx or Kxx, i'll just check/call and reevaluate the turn depending on if i think he's capable of barreling.

Obviously the better your read is, the more apt you can be to flat a hand like this OOP. Information is pretty key in these spots, and I couldn't really fault anyone for just 4-betting and getting it in in spots like this if you aren't comfortable postflop.

For an analytical approach to playing 3-bet pots (pre and postflop) I would recommend the Professor Plotkin series. I need to go through and watch it about 2-3 times myself so I can get better at this stuff too.

Posted about 3 years ago

tubasteve

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Good video again.

In the AQ hand in table 4, where we 3bet and get called by the loose guy, would you consider checking back turn to induce if the turn would be more of a blank? I don't think we get 3 streets of value on that flop board texture without much history, unless villain is pretty bad.



timestamp?

Posted about 3 years ago

dj_mercury

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At the 35th minute mark, it's the same hand oneillsurfer03 refers to. Referring to what you replied him, how do you know when a player is going to call you down with Qx. First, some players will never call your 3bet in position with KQs/QJs/QTs unless you are 3betting really light and/or you are at least 130bb+ deep. Second, some players will imply that 100NL players are never going to 3barrell such a dry board without at least TPTK, especially on the river after all turn draws missed and we would be mad to shove there with air given the price he is getting. Third the large majority of regulars at this level or lower won't adjust their play too much unless you are playing like a maniac and start calling down in marginal spots against another regular, since they figure that you have not much reason to try at outplay them.

Posted about 3 years ago

Ketelsen

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jlee

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great video guys.
At the 34:40 min mark on table 3 we open TT in sb against a player who we think is an aggressive regular. You state that if he 3 bets we are going to 4 bet get it in. Villian had 3 bet a couple of times prior. So we are putting him on a wider range when we 4 bet is it to induce him to shove his weaker hands? Previously you stated that the tighter you think the villians 3 bet range the more likely you would 4 bet a hand like JJ and the wider his 3 betting range the more likely you would be to flat as you dont want him folding all his 3 bet bluffs.
If this makes any sense please clarify.

Posted about 3 years ago

Yojimgari

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Thanks for the great video! For the KK hand near the end on the TT2 flop, I would 3bet preflop for the reasons stated. Also, I'd check-call the flop for the reasons stated.

Here's villains range to call your flop check-raise:
88+,22,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,T8s+,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo,T9o
We have 35.1% equity on the turn. I don't think we are getting two more streets out of 99/88. Plus he may not have those hands, and if so then our equity drops to 23.2%. My plan for the turn/river would be to check-call one more street. Villain may fold QQ/JJ to a triple barrel also.

Hero bets the turn and faces a raise. We have to be good 27.0% of the time to call. We have 35.1% equity against this range:
88+,22,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,T8s+,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo,T9o
We have 23.2% equity if villain doesn't have 99/88, which he shouldn't. We check-raised the flop, bet the turn, and now he's raising us all-in. Also, I doubt villain floated us with an unpaired Ace high, and if so he wouldn't have backdoor clubs that often, and if so he wouldn't raise us since our range is very strong.

Also, if villain doesn't have QQ/JJ here then our equity drops to 5.5%. I don't know if villain will have AA/KK here, and if not then our equity drops to 4.5%. Our equity is at best very rarely 23.2%, possibly 5.5%, but more likely 4.5%, so I think we can snap fold here. I think villain always has a ten or better here and we are drawing to two outs. I'd like to hear more thoughts on this. Thanks, Yojimgari

Posted almost 3 years ago



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