Poker Video: MTT/SNG by Skitz0Frenik (Micro/Small Stakes)

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Just to let you know, sometimes Rigged's answers aren't recorded. Here I just hear Skitz0: "What if it was folded to you?" "Nice."

Not too big of a problem since the context makes the answer obvious.

Time Link to 00:28:25

I do agree with pushing for the most part, but I would like to mention that this can be a fold against good players (or loose players in general) in the BB. They will call you wide enough to make pushing a pretty big mistake.

I would like you to utilize the Wizard's charting function in this kind of spot, particularly "Opponent Hand Range vs Diff" and "Opponent Hand Range vs Hero Hand Range". Here you could see, that this is a ATC shove when BB calls 30% or less, but you can only push about 35% if he happens to call 50% or more.

FWIW, the Nash Equilibrium here is pushing 60% and getting called 36%.

Once again, usually you won't be called that wide, so this is push most of the time.

Time Link to 00:57:32

"You can shove as wide as T8 off".

You are reading this wrong. The "..." behind the T8+ signifies that there is even more to the range and it is just truncated to better fit the screen. You can hover over to see the complete range or better yet click on it.

Time Link to 00:58:34

I'm not sure how much value there is to induce a shove. You are not too far ahead of those extra hands he'd shove against a smaller raise. You don't really want to flip for his stack at this point.

You might want to look into ICM Explorer by Douglas Zare, who used to make videos for a competing and now dead site.

Time Link to 00:11:52

i think you can also add that unless villain is a reg and your in SB that you can shove very wide in the 11ish BB and lower stack too. also more true in this case if you cover villain. personally i love shoving these spots bc it feel so awesome to gain chips so easily like that

Time Link to 00:15:14

i love you are using both logic and sng wiz bc i think when people have trouble making sng wiz work well for them it generally tends to be bc they are too reliant on it. love this format!

Time Link to 00:41:09

at this time stamp the audio had a glitch

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if stacks behind where different how would that change things?

Just to let you know, sometimes Rigged's answers aren't recorded. Here I just hear Skitz0: "What if it was folded to you?" "Nice."

Not too big of a problem since the context makes the answer obvious.

Bummer. We had a strange audio problem in the beginning that I will make sure doesn't pop up again in the future. Sorry about that!

I do agree with pushing for the most part, but I would like to mention that this can be a fold against good players (or loose players in general) in the BB. They will call you wide enough to make pushing a pretty big mistake.

I would like you to utilize the Wizard's charting function in this kind of spot, particularly "Opponent Hand Range vs Diff" and "Opponent Hand Range vs Hero Hand Range". Here you could see, that this is a ATC shove when BB calls 30% or less, but you can only push about 35% if he happens to call 50% or more.

FWIW, the Nash Equilibrium here is pushing 60% and getting called 36%.

Once again, usually you won't be called that wide, so this is push most of the time.

I agree that it is not a shove vs. all opponents. Vs. a reg I am folding here, because his calling range would make it -EV. Vs. randoms though, this is 100% a shove (because we put randoms on tighter calling ranges, until they show us something to change that perception).

You are reading this wrong. The "..." behind the T8+ signifies that there is even more to the range and it is just truncated to better fit the screen. You can hover over to see the complete range or better yet click on it.

Thanks - still have a bunch of stuff to learn about the SNG Wiz software!

I'm not sure how much value there is to induce a shove. You are not too far ahead of those extra hands he'd shove against a smaller raise. You don't really want to flip for his stack at this point.

You might want to look into ICM Explorer by Douglas Zare, who used to make videos for a competing and now dead site.

I think there is definitely extra value to gain by raise/calling instead of always just shoving vs. the right opponent. There are plenty of opponents who love to resteal in this spot and we don't give them a chance when we just shove. Never heard of Douglas Zare but I will check it out.

i love you are using both logic and sng wiz bc i think when people have trouble making sng wiz work well for them it generally tends to be bc they are too reliant on it. love this format!

Glad you like the format, and I agree with your point. I think if you rely too much on one method of thinking you are really limiting yourself.

if stacks behind where different how would that change things?

Would have to mess around on this one more with SNG Wiz to see the math. But, this would be a pretty good shove spot if we were a clear chip leader and opponents were tight. Obviously if our stack is much shorter we would also be getting closer to this being a correct shove.

Time Link to 00:44:39

Had to pull up wiz to check this hand and i think it is a lot closer to a shove than you guys make it out to be. I mean the default calling ranges are just all over the place... it is the bubble for crying out loud

We're "UTG", 3 even stacks, in their eyes this shouldn't look like a desperation shove at all and the big stack in the bb apparently is tight and knows the hero and won't be doing any loose calls which would be bad for him anyways.

Very good videos.. Im a noob to deuces cracked and havent rlly played as much of turbos for fear of the luck factor, with the faster increasing blinds.. These videos are definetly helping me get over that with the equity edges shown and just knowing where it is most profitable to shove.. Looking forward to trying out some more turbo sit n gos than i have been comfortable with.. Just curious , Do you have to pay for sit n go wizard? Thank you and cant wait to watch more videos

Had to pull up wiz to check this hand and i think it is a lot closer to a shove than you guys make it out to be. I mean the default calling ranges are just all over the place... it is the bubble for crying out loud

We're "UTG", 3 even stacks, in their eyes this shouldn't look like a desperation shove at all and the big stack in the bb apparently is tight and knows the hero and won't be doing any loose calls which would be bad for him anyways.

Mess around with SNG Wiz more and you'll see this is a clear fold even given all three opponents very tight calling ranges. RIGGED was actually right on this one initially where I agreed with you and leaned toward a shove. Yes, we have three even stacks and tons of FE, but the pot is so small relative to our stack. Play around with SNG Wiz and if you still disagree, let's see what ranges you think they are calling with.

Very good videos.. Im a noob to deuces cracked and havent rlly played as much of turbos for fear of the luck factor, with the faster increasing blinds.. These videos are definetly helping me get over that with the equity edges shown and just knowing where it is most profitable to shove.. Looking forward to trying out some more turbo sit n gos than i have been comfortable with.. Just curious , Do you have to pay for sit n go wizard? Thank you and cant wait to watch more videos

Glad you like the videos and are going to revisit the turbo SNGs! To answer your question, SNG Wizard is free for thirty days. If you want to purchase it, the cost is $99.

Mess around with SNG Wiz more and you'll see this is a clear fold even given all three opponents very tight calling ranges. RIGGED was actually right on this one initially where I agreed with you and leaned toward a shove. Yes, we have three even stacks and tons of FE, but the pot is so small relative to our stack. Play around with SNG Wiz and if you still disagree, let's see what ranges you think they are calling with.

Well if we have them calling 6% AJs+,88+ the push is -0.05% and if hero is pushing rigged's range of TT+,AJs those calling ranges would be terrible for the bu and sb. Obviously we can't think like this since bad calls/players is where we win our money from but still doesn't seem like a clear fold to me.

Well if we have them calling 6% AJs+,88+ the push is -0.05% and if hero is pushing rigged's range of TT+,AJs those calling ranges would be terrible for the bu and sb. Obviously we can't think like this since bad calls/players is where we win our money from but still doesn't seem like a clear fold to me.

Yeah, if they were calling with perfect ranges, it would be a push. But we wouldn't want to play with them in the first place, in that case.

Yeah, if they were calling with perfect ranges, it would be a push. But we wouldn't want to play with them in the first place, in that case.

Exactly. A common mistake people make when using SNG Wiz is to keep narrowing ranges down so that too many hands become a shove. We have to think about the bigger picture and leave room for error.

Enjoying the Videos. Looking forward to the rest.

Rigged knows his stuff, off a little bit on some ranges, but over time he will improve, one thing I think he should do less of though is chat, i notice in the replayer Brian chats a fairly decent amount in both this and in Ep 1, and I think his energies would be better spent not chatting with the regs or fish in his games.

Time Link to 00:44:26

I don't think it's hard to justify KJs. My default for this spot is 66 AJ ATs QJs KJs. If you're against really bad players then it can be a fold but I don't like to fold just because opponents are bad because it's pretty easy to end up being exploited by your own fear of a weak call.

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I like Q8s.

http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/icmcalculator.html?action=calculate&bb=300&sb=150&ante=0&structure=0.5%2C0.3%2C0.2&s1=2230&s2=2185&s3=3710&s4=5375&s5=&s6=&s7=&s8=&s9=

make some adjustments,
1) BB may call more often. Tightening buttons range somewhat, however
2) the blinds are not going to collide nearly that often - which widens buttons range considerably.

Folding wars kill ROI, take the chance. Personally I'm on about 1/3 of hands in that spot.

What is the differences between wizard and HEM? looking to get one, not sure which one to get.

Rigged knows his stuff, off a little bit on some ranges, but over time he will improve, one thing I think he should do less of though is chat, i notice in the replayer Brian chats a fairly decent amount in both this and in Ep 1, and I think his energies would be better spent not chatting with the regs or fish in his games.

Pretty sure Brian said he isn't actually chatting, but it's his script or something making his timebank appear as if he's chatting?

What is the differences between wizard and HEM? looking to get one, not sure which one to get.

SNG Wizard analyzes push/fold situations by looking at equities of each decision. HEM compiles hands, your results, and has a heads-up display that shows opponent frequencies, such as preflop raise percentage, VPIP, steal %, etc.

They are used for two different things - SNG Wiz is to be used before or after sessions as a study tool, while HEM is used during games to help make decisions while playing.