Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by PygmyHero (Micro/Small Stakes)

First and such.

o/u on total Star Wars references through the series?

~21:10 Adri's video that I reference in this video.

I dispute the fact that Barry Johnston is a winnar!

Sexy voice

I'm really looking forward to the later stages of the series, as I'm getting totally crushed when it comes to minbetpoker above the 1$/2$-level

btw what happened to your third part of the "site selection"-series pygmy?

Hey.

Really good debut video. Mike you are a good coach! I'm impressed.

Sexy voice

Thanks! to you too!

btw what happened to your third part of the "site selection"-series pygmy?

Both FTP and Stars changed their player rewards structure. So that complicated matters. I've been pretty busy, but hopefully I can still get it out soon.

Hey.

Really good debut video. Mike you are a good coach! I'm impressed.

Thanks Jordan.

Thanks! to you too!

you're welcome sugabear *kiss*

Both FTP and Stars changed their player rewards structure. So that complicated matters. I've been pretty busy, but hopefully I can still get it out soon.

From that perspective it's good you didn't publish it until now, so you can integrate all the new stuff esp. the new ironman challenge

HEY I know "On My Own" from Les Miserables!!!

Ok maaaaybe I shouldn't have admitted that.....

On the O/U thing I don't think there's a number BIG enough for the amount of Star Wars References you're going to try and get in for this series.

Looks awesome Mike, gonna be a good series imo.

o/u on the amount of times I say 'abooot' ^.^

you guys seem to have a great dynamic. where are all the DC no-limit ladies imo!

I just wanted to point out something about the odds calculations you did on the fly in Excel. I could easily see someone watching this and going "ok 5 to 1 translates to 1/(5+1) so 5 to 2 translates to 1/(5+2)" and this is obviously not correct. Though I guess a simple way to just get the quick and dirty answer is to realize the numerator is also affected by the numbers in the odds, and the shortcut is X to Y = Y/(X+Y).

I usually give an explanation of X+Y trials and how the outcome of each trial will either be X or Y, and then dive into the overall EV for X and for Y etc.

o/u on the amount of times I say 'abooot' ^.^

We will discuss this

The running Entity creature makes my life, imo

Really enjoyed this video. I never got the chance to watch RLMG from the beginning, so I think I missed out on some of its awesomeness, even though I enjoyed watching the later episodes.

Mike, I think you really excelled in this format, where your voice came through much stronger than in RLMG (where you tended to defer to Rob a lot). It shows how much you have grown as a player that you are now able to teach and explain the various concepts that you worked through as a student in RLMG.

Jess, I think you have a strong background to work with. There's worse things in the world than being too tight when you first start out. That said, I hope the format of this series is helpful in your transition up the stakes. Even though you're being challenged (to do seemingly crazy things like defend your blind with 64s!), take comfort in the fact that you don't have to have your game completely reworked, but rather just add new skills to your already solid base.

If there is one aspect of limit hold em that will be crucial to your continued improvement, it's going to be becoming more comfortable with the math involved and how that affects your strategic play. Ultimately, every decision you have to make must involve an understanding of the math involved. For example, suppose UTG raises, 2 players cold call, and you have 72o in your big blind. Should you defend your blind and put in another bet with this trash getting 7 to 1? Well, no you shouldn't, even Mike isn't advocating being that loose! BUT...

...what if the poker site you were playing at was running a special promotion, in which the person who wins this particular pot wins $20? Now you have to consider the odds you are getting to put 1 more SB in the pot. Assuming you are playing $0.25/$0.50, there is essentially an extra 80 SB in the pot from this promotion. So now you're getting 87 to 1! Even the lowly 72o is worth a call in this spot, and to fold here would be a HUGE mistake. The interesting thing is that the amount of money to be added to the pot in the promotion does not need to be huge to justify calling with 72o here; even a promotion of $1 added to the pot would make 72o a marginal call in my off-the-top-of-my head estimation.

I hope you two will go into a deeper discussion of odds at some point in the series, especially to distinguish immediate odds (which is what you were talking about today) from effective odds and implied odds. Overall, I was very impressed by the first episode and look forward to watching this series develop!

very good and educational vid pgmyball grats!

@ adriennesrevenge ... i would recommend u to get a copy of stoxxtraders book! playin the blinds etc. think u could also learn a lot from that book!

I just wanted to point out something about the odds calculations you did on the fly in Excel. I could easily see someone watching this and going "ok 5 to 1 translates to 1/(5+1) so 5 to 2 translates to 1/(5+2)" and this is obviously not correct. Though I guess a simple way to just get the quick and dirty answer is to realize the numerator is also affected by the numbers in the odds, and the shortcut is X to Y = Y/(X+Y).

I usually give an explanation of X+Y trials and how the outcome of each trial will either be X or Y, and then dive into the overall EV for X and for Y etc.

DD, this is a great point. And of course you're absolutely right. Truthfully I was not 100% prepared to do an explanation of how to convert odds to percentages, so I appreciate you clearing that up.

Hey everyone - I want to say thanks for all the feedback.

Mike, I really appreciate you taking the time to comment more extensively on both me and Jess. Your point about different kinds of odds is very good and I have taken a note to cover it more.

This guy is sooo Rob with the voice of Pygball

So you're a coach now? Grats!! Why don't you show up in the coaching section yet?

Two things:

Why is there a black frame consuming 2/5 of the whole vid?

There is a smallish mistake at 50:20. You have to plug in the suits of the board in Stove. You'll get 22,6% equity instead of 26,8%. Nevertheless, it doesn't affect your advice to call the AK4 flop getting 9:1/8:1.

So you're a coach now? Grats!! Why don't you show up in the coaching section yet?

You mean like here? http://www.deucescracked.com/coaches/PygmyHero

Why is there a black frame consuming 2/5 of the whole vid?

I think it's because the video is a compilation of a few types of video, basically excel+powerpoint+hand replay and not all of them fit the screen the entire time. That's my guess, at least.

Rob

Over/under on how many times Mike says "I would raise" in the next 3 episodes?

Over/under on how many times Mike says "I would raise" in the next 3 episodes?

You have action. Especially since Episode 2 is on value betting, not raising.

i miss the rob

ull have to make a final "feat. the wise jedi master rob" episode for the series imo!

Jess, If there is one aspect of limit hold em that will be crucial to your continued improvement, it's going to be becoming more comfortable with the math involved and how that affects your strategic play.

Totally agree, I never thought that math had a place in poker but I'm learning now

I hope you two will go into a deeper discussion of odds at some point in the series

Me too!

ty for comments

I think both of u made a great job and it was fun to watch despite references to American sports. And like everyone say basic math is really good to understand the game better (but you will not do actual calculations all that often).

When I saw that 64s hand I was like: "easy call". Then I thought to myself why do I think that's an easy call? The ugly truth is that the main reason is I've seen the coaches do it. I think that many players are like this, especially pf. One does not have to understand everything 100%, but copying good players style goes a long way.

Loosing up pf has been the biggest and most valuable change of my game lately. Why did I do it? Because Rob told Mike to do it in RLMLG2. (And this comes from a big math nit like me).

But like I said understanding the fundamental math IS important.

Finally I much prefer PokerAzor -> tools -> Equity calculator

over stove. Stove is frankly outdated. U have much better option when it comes to suits, post flop etc. And the result will be presented in a better way too. And it's not more complicated (the basic tool is however much harder to use).

Hey sushi, great post!

I'm still planning to check out your Pokerazor video! To be honest I'm not that familiar with it yet, so hopefully I'll be able to use it better after I watch you.

Jess,

You should notice that all the hands PygRob picked and ask you to play are not only hands that can make straights, but they are also suited. In general non-suited gapers are a lot more trashier because they cannot make flush and thus have much much lower implied odds.

hehe I think non-suited gappers will be a hard bridge to push me off of! >.>

In general non-suited gapers are a lot more trashier because they cannot make flush

WTF, they can make two flushes. 2 > 1 LDO.

Adrienne, you sound cuter than JoeTalls daughter holding a box full of puppies.

Too bad my occasional subscription runs out today. Good luck. I think this will be a great series even if you don't go on to pwn the games.

o/u on the amount of times I say 'abooot' ^.^

Easy over, imo

1. Pygmy - solid job. +1 to whoever noted your strong voice and overall good coaching!

2. Jess - where does "Adrienne's Revenge" come from?

3. +1 !!! to whoever noted the SEXY voice!!! (you too, Adrienne! )

4. my DC membership lapsed and im back just in time, ftw!!

Adrienne, you sound cuter than JoeTalls daughter holding a box full of puppies.

That's pretty fuckin cute! ty

What if I was holding JoeTall's daughter who was holding a box of puppies?
What if I AM JoeTall's daughter? o.0

2. Jess - where does "Adrienne's Revenge" come from?

The Simpsons

This was a really good first coaching video PH, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the series. Jess you have a great sense of humour, and I am sure you are going to learn a great deal as you progress through the programme. Well done the both of you.

I love how people are putting action down even though there's no actual LINE on any of these things (I did this too). Next week's episode is already in, but maybe I'll have to do a quick edit to explain how prop betting actually works to the viewers.

What if I AM JoeTall's daughter? o.0

If you were JoeTall's daughter you would have raised the 64s, flopped quads, then used the the winnings to crush Matt Hawrilenko.

3. +1 !!! to whoever noted the SEXY voice!!! (you too, Adrienne! )

Is it bad that I read this in my head as, 'one factorial...wait a minute...that still equals one!'

This was a really good first coaching video PH, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the series. Jess you have a great sense of humour, and I am sure you are going to learn a great deal as you progress through the programme. Well done the both of you.

Thanks xrosswind. Good to see you.

Just to clarify, Adri shows no signs of playing abnormally fast.

Tho I do make SICK CALLS ON THE RIVER

Over/under on the number of over/under prop bets during this series?

I'll take the over ...

That's pretty fuckin cute! ty

What if I was holding JoeTall's daughter who was holding a box of puppies?
What if I AM JoeTall's daughter? o.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmdUSX5eg3o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmdUSX5eg3o

Ok nothing is cuter than that! ^.^ omg I love the one where the dog is drawing with her

Joe, my fiancée loves your little girl. She's very cute.

Joe, my fiancée loves your little girl. She's very cute.

Ut oh, your are in trouble now!

Great video! Keep up the good work you two.

Ut oh, your are in trouble now!

lol - you have no idea.

Great video, I loved it, you are a good duo. I've learned I really have to use stove/pokerazor ASAFP.

Joe, my fiancée loves your little girl. She's very cute.

and Joe's little girl is cute as well

Really good video guys (and gals). Looking forward to the rest of the series..

I think both of u made a great job and it was fun to watch despite references to American sports.

64s is the Detroit Lions

Really great first episode - very promising for what's comming.

And Joe's girls, very cute... And looks like your wife/you are very productive with the recording of the videos. There's nothing like to have those videos to look at in some years when our small "babies" have become little terries - we should be so thankfull that we can record in HQ and not just take pictures in b & w. I love technology

For a more detailed look at odds in poker (in general), sweetjazz just wrote up a great article here: http://www.deucescracked.com/articles/1392-Odds-in-Poker

Rob

longest limidonk video thread EVAR

longest limidonk video thread EVAR

lol

At the same time, there isn't yet one single question in the thread about content. The bulk of the questions so far have been about o/u lines.

And we haven't even gotten into Adri's choice of the rooster avatar, and the vast strategic implications contained therein!

FWIW I have elephant avatar now

FWIW I have elephant avatar now

omg...so +EV. I didn't want to tell you since I want you to 'work' your way up through the limits, but basically the elephant avatar is a HUGE secret and I think all your problems are now solved.

Variance: I have avatars off mostly tho

The confused leprechaun never fails me!

omg...so +EV. I didn't want to tell you since I want you to 'work' your way up through the limits, but basically the elephant avatar is a HUGE secret and I think all your problems are now solved.

Someday you'll understand the power of the leprechaun, young padawan.

Does this count as +1 Star Wars references in the series?

Someday you'll understand the power of the leprechaun, young padawan.

Does this count as +1 Star Wars references in the series?

That's tough. I'd say for sure if you had said, "if you only knew...the power of the leprechaun."

54:30

adrienne: they need a little heart shaped button, that tells you, you can have position. Kinda.

Pygmyhero: ...right


LOL, lets all email full tilt support, it could happen!

Srsly! I mean, are people just born knowing that being in the BB means u get position post flop? I had no idea!

Someday you'll understand the power of the leprechaun, young padawan.

Does this count as +1 Star Wars references in the series?

leprechaun = -1
padawan = +1
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Whenever words "rake" and "trap" are mentioned, I will hijack the thread with this image:

http://www.hotales.org/raketrap.jpg

That's $1/$2 to $3/$6 6-max limit hold'em.

Great video...I hope this series will continue far so we get AR coaching people

only if I get a yard stick

omg, btw, I have ordered something online which will make a huge difference to my performance at the tables and personal happiness:

mi neuvo Amigo

Mike was giving me a pep talk and somehow it came up that an unidentified individual found Chris's voice soothing, and would put on Chris videos to combat tilt.... And I said that I would really like a plushy donkey like Chris has in his avatar so I could cuddle it while I play.

Mike probably thought I was joking but.... I plushy donkey!

It's not the exact DD one obv but I didn't want to be a total copy-er

Beat: Amigo is on back order! 15 days estimated till he arrives >.>
Brag: he's the greatest thing for state of mind since EoP ^.^
Variance: I saw the fslexcduck stuffed duck at the poker animal depot o.o

Maybe Amigo and I will make a blog ^.^

Move to Stars imo:

http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/store/?cat=toys&prod=pa-19

And I said that I would really like a plushy donkey like Chris has in his avatar so I could cuddle it while I play.

Mike probably thought I was joking but.... I plushy donkey!

It's not the exact DD one obv but I didn't want to be a total copy-er

The real DD charge 200 bucks to be cuddled while u play, so this is a smart way to save some bucks.

The real DD charge 200 bucks to be cuddled while u play, so this is a smart way to save some bucks.

I don't know what DeathDonkeys cuddling rates are but he charges $250 for an hour of coddling.

Great vid, I am going to play micro limit as a break from da omahaz..

For show tunes you should have "positive role model" by Pet Shop Boys as you are now a coach...

Positive Role Model

For Omaha "losing my mind" - Liza Minelli and the pet shop boys might be more suitable..