Poker Video: Omaha/Omaha 8 by DeathDonkey (High Stakes)

Thanks again Chris!

while playing you said something like:


" do you remember the oldschool concepts people have, like pushing and pulling hands"

could you please elaborate, why you dont think those concepts are good or bad or whats wrong with those ideas?

could you also please state why you think limping in -early- position is bad?

ty

while playing you said something like:


" do you remember the oldschool concepts people have, like pushing and pulling hands"

could you please elaborate, why you dont think those concepts are good or bad or whats wrong with those ideas?

could you also please state why you think limping in -early- position is bad?

ty

1 on an expansion on this idea

Well I think these concepts simply don't translate as well to SH/6max poker. This is pretty much the same for all other poker games as well.

There are some 6max games I'd limp in EP but not all of them, and prob not in these games Chris was in. In a bunch of the games I was in earlier in the series, probably yeah, esp a lot of good A2W* rainbow hands.

I just think that concept came from old school LHE games and just don't translate as well.

Time Link to 00:11:20

In this hand vs shuandeeb are you raising the turn unimproved?

Agree with Chuck re push/pull

allstarrrrrrrrrrrrrt: I think I would not have raised if the turn didn't give me the flush draw equity, would be concerned about counterfeit potential on river. That might be bad / nitty though considering I have a 7 for emergency low and a two way hand.

Well I think these concepts simply don't translate as well to SH/6max poker. This is pretty much the same for all other poker games as well.

but.. why?

I guess - correct me if I'm wrong - the main purpose of openraising (vs openlimping) is to take down the blinds and if not, at least have position. I guess openlimping can be still correct if you have absolutely no chance that you will have position in the hand (and so you can't take down the blinds too). However in SH limit games that's the case 99.5% of the times, so that is the reason probably. (I only had 1 occasion in my life, where openlimping seemed fine, it was on a LHE FR table with 6 huge fish (VPIP 50+) behind me in UTG).

the games i play in (1$/2$ SH FL limit O8) if you raise from EP it is VERY unlikely you will be IP or take down the blinds.

VERY unlikely to say the least. I am frequently looking at 3-4handed pots.

so i'd like to correct your 99.5% times nonsense there, exept you were saying that your 99.5 refers to making everyone fold pre and taking down the blinds

Yeah, I mean 1/2 SH O8 on Stars is just the biggest fish-storm I'v ever seen. Regardless, your question was about the theory in general, and versus the opponents these videos were made openlimping seems to be bad. You're exactly talking about the occasions that .5% is, and not the rest, and in this case, openlimping can be good with certain types of hands. That doesn't mean openlimping has to or can be a part of your general strategy, just an adjustement you can make if the table looks fishy enough.

That's like if you say in LHE that you should never fold a full house. Despite the fact, it's generally true, and in 99.5% of the cases I see the showdown with a full house, I can see some very rare cases of folding it due to exploitative play. I guess your question is the same here.

i am honestly talking like 80% of hands are 3-4handed +