Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by BigBadBabar (Micro/Small Stakes)

sup guys, i talked it over with DC and we are going to be making a second FR LHE series after this one. so, we are changing our plans a bit. we are going to have this series focus more on smallish stakes, say .5/1 to 2/4 or so, and then the second series is going to focus on middish/high stakes, say 3/6 to 10/20 or so.

the idea is that way we get tons more content at each level hopefully to keep everyone happy, since i have gotten lots of positive feedback so far!

i am still going to be keeping the WSOP/live poker theme throughout both series, making lots of references and comparisons to live play. we decided that since a .5/1 or 1/2 or 2/4 game online is still going to be as hard or harder than a 15/30 or 30/60 live game, that the comparisons will still work and prepare you guys for Vegas!

anyway thanks for continuing to watch, and as always, i welcome any and all feedback.

BBB

BBB in tha house. Looking forward to the next series

sup guys, i talked it over with DC and we are going to be making a second FR LHE series after this one.

ZOMG how epic!!!1!one!

Anyway, I got some stuff:

9:12 Apple Lisa FTW!

33:45 KTs really an easy raise UTG? I don't want to start a retarded pre flop discussion but isn't it too loose? I thought KJs was too loose also...

40:00 98s for me it would be flipping a coin to valuebet or not, it would depend on the opponents, image, table dynamic, etc. My question is, would you have paid off when he would have bet the river?

43:40 QTo. With the 3rd player tagging along, would you discount your outs since he could be on a flushdraw and when you hit you still loose? I often take these sort of things in consideration when players are tagging along but it might be just plain wrong. Also, as played I think I could never bluff the river against this player considering your 'history' with this player (it's the same that snapped off the Q8o bluff with a rivered 6 right?)

52:11 77o. Pre flop is perfectly fine imo.

58:25 "Change that deuce to a four". Second time you say this. I don't get it?

1:07:48 Cujo

1:11:45 What would you do on the turn when called and the turn card didn't improve your hand?

Please try to get the resolution a bit more clear in the next episodes, I would like to see some stats on the players.

40:00-I thought this hand was really interesting, I wouldn't bet the river for the reasons you gave
I think your bet has no value and in the video I think you were a little optimistic with what hands would call down. I don't think I'd ever bet hoping to get called down by AQ high in these games

I'll work with babar to get the resolution better in future vids.

Also, those of you who are putting timestamps in manually should look into using the new flash player!

That way the rest of us can easily click those timestamps and jump to what you're talking about super easily.

Rob

I used the comment from timeline tab and it didn't save it, I actually had to go back and edit my post to include the time

I dont' know if this is something anyone else is having a problem with or not.

BBB in tha house. Looking forward to the next series

<3 the om nom nommer

ZOMG how epic!!!1!one!

confirm.

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Yumm bacon cheeseburgers!!!

Anyway, I got some stuff:

9:12 Apple Lisa FTW!

33:45 KTs really an easy raise UTG? I don't want to start a retarded pre flop discussion but isn't it too loose? I thought KJs was too loose also...

40:00 98s for me it would be flipping a coin to valuebet or not, it would depend on the opponents, image, table dynamic, etc. My question is, would you have paid off when he would have bet the river?

43:40 QTo. With the 3rd player tagging along, would you discount your outs since he could be on a flushdraw and when you hit you still loose? I often take these sort of things in consideration when players are tagging along but it might be just plain wrong. Also, as played I think I could never bluff the river against this player considering your 'history' with this player (it's the same that snapped off the Q8o bluff with a rivered 6 right?)

52:11 77o. Pre flop is perfectly fine imo.

58:25 "Change that deuce to a four". Second time you say this. I don't get it?

1:07:48 Cujo

1:11:45 What would you do on the turn when called and the turn card didn't improve your hand?

Please try to get the resolution a bit more clear in the next episodes, I would like to see some stats on the players.

9:12 apple lisa confirm.

33:45 KTs i wouldn't say it's the easiest raise ever, but there was 1 guy sitting out, and the suited broadways play really well. KJs i also open utg. remember when you're playing a fairly laggy style that i am, you have to open a fair number of hands that are neutral-ish or slightly -EV in a vacuum, imo, because it will increase the value of the rest of your range down the road and overall be profitable.

40:00 98s yes i would have called the river if he bet - big pot, one bet, closing action, he can every now and then be barreling or bluffing something worse since i have just called every street and don't look strong.

43:40 QTo yea there's a bit of discounting going on for sure, but i think it was still okay. definitely a delicate spot. i agree with you that there's not really any value in a river bluff. the other thing is that sometimes i have the best hand vs his bs flushdraw anyway, and a bet is really only getting called by better hands.

58:25 joe tall reference

71:45 i would tend to fire again on most cards, maybe checkfolding kings and queens is fine.

am definitely working on the resolution, i thought i had it fixed this time (it looks great on my computer) but apparently not. damn you apple lisa!!

40:00-I thought this hand was really interesting, I wouldn't bet the river for the reasons you gave
I think your bet has no value and in the video I think you were a little optimistic with what hands would call down. I don't think I'd ever bet hoping to get called down by AQ high in these games

yeah, you can hear me when i'm dissecting the hand say that i think it was too thin and that i valuetowned myself

I used the comment from timeline tab and it didn't save it, I actually had to go back and edit my post to include the time

I dont' know if this is something anyone else is having a problem with or not.

What do you mean didn't save it?

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I can't recreate it sorry, I used the "comment from timeline" tab, posted my response, "post reply" and it posted it without the timeline.

I had to edit my post and include the time. Saying it didn't save it was probably bad wording.

fwiw i was using firefox on osx but, now it looks like its working fine

^ same thing happened to me earlier but worked later when I came back

^ same thing happened to me earlier but worked later when I came back

LMK if you guys have it happen again -- there was bug with javascript earlier that could have caused it, hard to say.

Rob

Kind of an obvious statement to make about an elephant, but BBB, you are an animal.

Kind of an obvious statement to make about an elephant, but BBB, you are an animal.

thanks sweetjazz, feel free to elaborate if you see fit

thanks sweetjazz, feel free to elaborate if you see fit

okay

Hey BBB what's your take on these limits -- I kept bugging you about how hard these limits are when no one knows what they're doing and they stumble into their hands -- you usually play a lot higher -- more sympathy for us down in the trenches :-)?

Hey BBB what's your take on these limits -- I kept bugging you about how hard these limits are when no one knows what they're doing and they stumble into their hands -- you usually play a lot higher -- more sympathy for us down in the trenches :-)?

nope, no sympathy - i wish all these guys played 15/30 with me

hang in there.

i mean i have sympathy for anyone running bad at any stakes. but i'd rather know that when i'm running okay i have a large edge in the game!

I filtered my play from when we started working together and actually am in the black, so I shouldn't be complaining. And a couple good sessions now so I'm gonna mark it on the calendar that I do have good sessions and remind myself to look at that the next time my AA is cracked by 42o.

i mean i have sympathy for anyone running bad at any stakes. but i'd rather know that when i'm running okay i have a large edge in the game!

Babar in the houssssse and I would love these guys at 15/30 almost as much as I love humberto b

Babar in the houssssse and I would love these guys at 15/30 almost as much as I love humberto b

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40:00 98s for me it would be flipping a coin to valuebet or not, it would depend on the opponents, image, table dynamic, etc. My question is, would you have paid off when he would have bet the river?

I think I would time out on the river and just make the play my mouse decided in the moment. That said I kind of think we got a valuebet, I think he got A9-AQ and A8+99-QQ, or some random QJ,QT which I he just gave up and I'm not sure if he should call a bet with those.

But A9-AQ is 60 combos and A8,99-QQ is 32 combos, so I certainly don't think a bet is spew here.

^^ BTW change that should to would ^^

And what if we were in his seat how should we play this river with QJ-JT and stuff, you think?

And do you think he ever checks a Kx to induce a bluff from us?

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Small error here re; pot odds. You are getting 8:1 (or so - it's hard to see the pot size), but you're only calling for a chop. That means that instead of needing to be good the normal ~11% you need to be good twice as often for the call to be neutral EV (since we win half as much when we do win). That said, even needing to be good more like 25% of the time I call.

Small error here re; pot odds. You are getting 8:1 (or so - it's hard to see the pot size), but you're only calling for a chop. That means that instead of needing to be good the normal ~11% you need to be good twice as often for the call to be neutral EV (since we win half as much when we do win). That said, even needing to be good more like 25% of the time I call.

nice catch sir

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Homeward Bound is the movie you were looking for.

I know you've been waiting 8 months for that.

Great vid.

Homeward Bound is the movie you were looking for.

I know you've been waiting 8 months for that.

Great vid.

thank you - couldn't think of the name of it and it was driving me nuts (for a couple of days at least)!

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You basically just said:

"I mostly see people check behind here with weak hands they want to show down so I'm going to semi-bluff". I don't get it...if he has A high or pocket 4s and is trying to showdown cheaply why are you about to value-town yourself?

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I just saw pygmy already commented on this....you're off by a factor of ~2 here when you estimate how often you need to win.

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I think this is really close and that folding is probably fine. Your 9 outs are not clean at all.

You basically just said:

"I mostly see people check behind here with weak hands they want to show down so I'm going to semi-bluff". I don't get it...if he has A high or pocket 4s and is trying to showdown cheaply why are you about to value-town yourself?

yeah i think you make a good point. i wouldn't describe what i'm doing as valuetowning myself really - i'm under no illusion that my queen high is the best hand. i think you are right that my twobarrel semibluff here is a losing proposition. at the time i thought i could either get king high to fold now or on the river, or ace high to fold sometimes now and sometimes on the river if the board comes scary, and sometimes i'll make something since i have a lot of outs, and i want to see what happens for the video's sake. in a live game or a higher stakes online game i think i have way less fold equity in this kind of spot than i did here vs a seemingly nitty guy who i thought i could get to fold on a lot of turn/river cards.

I think this is really close and that folding is probably fine. Your 9 outs are not clean at all.

i can't figure out which hand you mean here. 98ss?