DeathDonkey and Mike L. bring another short handed limit series to an end. Who was the better arguer this season? Only time will tell.
A continuation of DeathDonkey and mike L.â€™s popular 6max LHE series. Attack high stakes LHE, featuring deep discussion of hand ranges, preflop balancing, playing the river, image considerations and short handed play.
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I agree with Mike L about calling flop with As2d. We have a draw that has < 50% equity heads up and would prefer to keep the pot multiway. Results aside, we should not be trying to show down A2 high unimproved on this board.
Don't know that I agree about klikker's river check. It looks bad here b/c we happen to know that fnupple and VUcats are both aggressive players whose range of hands that just call down is pretty limited, but in general it's a pretty big parlay that two players have busted draws on this board. Given how bloated the pot is, it's probably +EV to bet and pray, but I don't think a check is a travesty.
Of course klikker's preflop cap is bad. And if he is going to give up unimproved on the river, I think he is much better off taking a free card on the turn.
I don't really like the K6o isolation in the SB. First, fnupple could wake up with a hand and is going to adjust properly. You're going to OOP with a weak hand that is close in strength and type to the "computer hand" Q7o. As played, I think the turn is a check/fold. First, this guy has taken free cards with weak hands, so if we are still good there is a good chance turn goes check-check. Having isolated K6o, I wouldn't be looking to fold much before the river, but the Td is close to the worst card in the deck for you.
I might just have a philosophical difference in how I approach maniacs. While I definitely want to get into pots with them, I also want to be selective and wait for robust hands that can see a lot of showdowns with good equity up to the river if we do get outflopped.
47.35 Fnupple XF the river with AK on 762; 5; T.
I know I talked with both on u in Omakase about possibly selecting some river cards to fold in spots like this. Isn't the T a pretty ok choice (together with 8 and 9). Given the 5 and the T we lose to most str8draws now. We still beat a FD, but that's much fewer combos.
the turn bet/fold with A3.
Me toooo !!! This is the stuff that I kind of forgot on the way. When I was knew to the game I made folds like this. Then I learned about not being exploitable and NEVER fold top pair in a stealing situation etc. But that is just soooo bad. And Im struggling to get back to "play poker" again. Playing poker is an area I feel Im a bit bad at. Im pretty good at clicking buttons and reading charts though. And I know some math.
Ty both for an excellent season!!! Please come back! And remember we still haven't seen Mike play. And we are all starving for pf 3-bets, free SD raises, draw bloating, folding quads to straight flushes etc.
Great season of amazing videos DD&Mike. Thanks for helping us out and I hope you guys continue with some sort of LHE videos in the future.
Couple questions about the hands from the last episode.
When Lela has QTo on the J85fd2 board whats our plan on the river when we river a T or a Q if we bet called the turn against SAKLIKKER's CR? I would just call with the Q and I'm uncertain what I'd do if the river was a T especially if it was like the Ts.
The hand when Jbanana has A2 on a 334 board if we aren't going to cr here what hands are we going to cr? A2 should have decent equity on the flop but I agree with calling since it makes it tough for villan if we have hands with strong equity in our flop call range.
It makes it tough for them to double barrel which we'd prefer since we get a lot of free cards and lighter riv calls as shown in the hand. I'm sure this is also dependent on whether or not we 3bet out of the BB. If we don't 3bet PF I'm sure we have to cr more hands including maybe the A2. If we do 3bet PF it almost seems fine to me to call with 4x as DD mentioned and maybe even 3x. 3x might be pushing it but if we aren't going to cr A2 our range on these flops seem too polarized to 3x 4x and good Ax. Also having 3x in our turn cr range seems great for future semi bluff cr spots on the turn.
When Jbanana has K6o as the SB3B on the AJ2ddTd board if our play is to chk/c the turn whats our plan on the riv? On the video it made it sound as though it is to chk/c UI on most riv and reevalute if we improved or a diamond hits. If our plan is to SD we can probably fold most diamonds vs a bet but what do we do if the river is say the Qd, Kd? Of the non diamond cards if our intention is to SD I'm also curious if the riv was a K non dieamond. I struggle at times as to where I draw the lines of how light you SD against the maniacs so it'd be great to get some help.
Thanks guys for the video and best of luck at the tables.
QT hand, I'd probably raise the Q and call the ten.
A2 hand I mostly agree with your thoughts.
K6o hand its a gross spot for sure but I suppose I'd pay off on any Q or K river and fold any other diamond river, and call on a blank having c/c the turn.
26 min. 56 T782 It doesn't make sense to me to bet this turn if we are not going to bet the river as well UIP. I don't see enough hands that lela will peel the flop with and fold the turn with. Hands with a J have a draw and hands with a Queen shouldn't be peeling unless they have a draw. I suppose he could fold a K.
I guess what I am saying is, is this a bet and barrell situation or check and give up situation or possibly check and bluff some rivers?
This video is super-old but anyway, one comment for the ~33:30 mark-
I disagree that K7s should donk the river as a bluff there- you guys say that it wouldn't really make sense for fnupple to check the turn with an ace on that board, so it seems like the Q would hit a large part of his range on the river...