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Ghost: Improva (#1) by improva

Improva makes a unique video chronicling how to play without knowing your cards. He focuses on getting heads up preflop and then reads on the opponent based on stats and showdowns.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 43 minutes long
  • Posted almost 4 years ago

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Roogle

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Millman123

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Excellent video!

I had numerous Aha! - moments in it and it was great add-on to the same topics you discussed on your book.


-Millman

Posted almost 4 years ago

Captain_V.

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convincing!

I was waiting a long time to see a video from you I hope you do some more!!

by the way: excellent german language skills on that "kgbspion" ;-)

Posted almost 4 years ago

BaronGryn

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Cool.

It would be nice to add a HUD that shows your cards after the hand is over for entertainment. Although it might take som focus away from the purpose of the vid.

We should be able to see your stack too, as it influences decissions etc..

Posted almost 4 years ago

Monsternut

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great vid!

maybe iam too much results oriented, but how much did you win in this session? Smile

Posted almost 4 years ago

Poemmel

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nice video!
really enjoyed that format, cause it will surely help my non showdown line Wink

btw: where are you from?

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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Cool.

It would be nice to add a HUD that shows your cards after the hand is over for entertainment. Although it might take som focus away from the purpose of the vid.

We should be able to see your stack too, as it influences decissions etc..



Cards... I didn't know how to do that Frown Would have been fun - I agree Smile

Stacks... hmm - I always have 100bb+ stack myself so there are not many spots where it actually matters. But I agree would have made the vid a little better maybe.

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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great vid!

maybe iam too much results oriented, but how much did you win in this session? Smile



The video is actually almost two months old so I don't remember. A guess would be between 0.5BI and 1BI.

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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nice video!
really enjoyed that format, cause it will surely help my non showdown line Wink

btw: where are you from?



I'm 1/2 Austrian, 1/4 Danish and 1/4 Norwegian Smile

I live mostly in Copenhagen, Denmark.

Posted almost 4 years ago

danndann1

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why in the world you didnt use stats?

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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why in the world you didnt use stats?



Stats tells us about avg situations. They don't deal with specific situations. Paying attention and thinking about ranges is better.

In this little exercise we really need to pay attention

TBH I learn more about a player by playing with him and paying attention than I do from his stats. Stats don't reflect game flow.

Last but not least HEM and tiltblocker do not work together on my computer. Had they worked together I would have used stats to help me get started. After say 20-25 min I rely more on gameflow than on stats.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Chazb0t

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Is this the same video as the Look Mom No Hands video?

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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Is this the same video as the Look Mom No Hands video?


yes

Posted almost 4 years ago

Chazb0t

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Ok thanks... I couldnt find where I downloaded that video so I couldnt compare the two.

Definitely was an amazing video... I think I'm gunna have to watch it again.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Tony39

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Really enjoyed this - would like to see some more in this format, perhaps with some villain stats.

At 39min, you cbet the J64 flop and turn is a blank 2. Although you changed your decision, you said that the turn didn't help him and you expected him to fold a lot to a barrel. On such a dry board when he isn't drawing, he has likely called with some sort of made hand, so wouldn't he often call again because the turn changed nothing?

Posted almost 4 years ago

StnBuddha70

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Very interesting playing the "Look Ma, No Hands," style. And, who the hell was the nitbag, to your left, on table 1 ???

Posted almost 4 years ago

reprisal

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Not sure how to do those fancy time links...but @23:30 or so.

You say this a really great flop to c-bet, but in a multiway pot I'd very rarely c-bet air on this type of board. So many hands have a FD or a pair+gutter that I expect one of them to continue quite often but its not a board where we can barrel them off those hands either. Someone who limp/calls may even peel any ace...altho Any Two hadnt shown us he was that terrible.

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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Really enjoyed this - would like to see some more in this format, perhaps with some villain stats.

At 39min, you cbet the J64 flop and turn is a blank 2. Although you changed your decision, you said that the turn didn't help him and you expected him to fold a lot to a barrel. On such a dry board when he isn't drawing, he has likely called with some sort of made hand, so wouldn't he often call again because the turn changed nothing?



Very good question!

Maybe you can see that this actually is a leveling war?
How would we play are strong made hand?

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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Not sure how to do those fancy time links...but @23:30 or so.

You say this a really great flop to c-bet, but in a multiway pot I'd very rarely c-bet air on this type of board. So many hands have a FD or a pair+gutter that I expect one of them to continue quite often but its not a board where we can barrel them off those hands either. Someone who limp/calls may even peel any ace...altho Any Two hadnt shown us he was that terrible.



Hm.. I would really like to answer your question but I'm not sure what it is...

Posted almost 4 years ago

vbkay

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Interesting format. Very useful for those of us who have trouble with stealing pots and putting on the pressure. Would be fun to see the cards though. You folded QQ in the BB.

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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Interesting format. Very useful for those of us who have trouble with stealing pots and putting on the pressure. Would be fun to see the cards though. You folded QQ in the BB.



I'm glad you liked it Smile

Posted almost 4 years ago

reprisal

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Hm.. I would really like to answer your question but I'm not sure what it is...



I guess I'm just second guessing either my or your analysis a bit? Thought the video was quite good but that 1 hand didnt make much sense to me. So I'm wondering if there is a consideration I'm missing.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Tony39

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Maybe you can see that this actually is a leveling war?
How would we play are strong made hand?[/quote]

Thanks for your reply, yes we would clearly continue with a strong made hand. I guess that these are the spots where I am torn between firing a second / third barrel, and I'm not always sure of my logic in making these decisions.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Ulysses

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Very good and fun video, Improva! Would like to see more material from you in the future.

Posted almost 4 years ago

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improva

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I guess I'm just second guessing either my or your analysis a bit? Thought the video was quite good but that 1 hand didnt make much sense to me. So I'm wondering if there is a consideration I'm missing.



I'm not concerned about the limper. His range is really wide and almost never has a hand here.

StnBuddha has a lot of pocket pairs in his range and they are all folding.

The c-bet only needs to work ~ 40% of the time.

Posted almost 4 years ago

reprisal

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I'm not concerned about the limper. His range is really wide and almost never has a hand here.

StnBuddha has a lot of pocket pairs in his range and they are all folding.

The c-bet only needs to work ~ 40% of the time.



Definitely good points, thanks.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Chimeni

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Very Informative. I'm still trying to understand and recognize "dry vs. action" boards based on assumed ranges. Any further suggestions/vids/advice? Great vid and presentation.

Posted almost 4 years ago

xerocat

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Really, really liked this one. It's nice to be forced to focus on the other elements of a situation and not our hand at all.

21:00 JJ9dd flop, you chose to barrel Turn. Earlier, the flop was something like 973 9, and you did choose to barrel. If this was due to board texture, is the opponent's range really THAT much narrower in the former to make barreling bad but good in the 2nd situation?

Just 2nd barreling only may be -EV, but do you think 2nd barreling the JJ9dd, x board would be +EV if you did so with the intention of firing a 3rd barrel on a blank river? The 2nd barrel would effectively be to fold out a few weak hands and build the pot vs draws to take down on whiffed Rivers. It seems like a lone J would raise this texture a some point (except J9), so if he c/c's the Turn, we can weight his range more to just a couple monsters (99/J9), SD's, FD's, and marginal hands (9x etc) and win with a bet on the end as we have strongly represented a J.

Or is this often just spewy?

Posted almost 4 years ago

Battosai1

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Nice video, pretty entertaining to watch, and def will improve non-showdown winnings.

This again shows how important board texture and perceived ranges are when deciding wether or not to cbet.

Posted almost 4 years ago

throwfar

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What are you using to hide your cards? This will be a good exercise to do at lower stakes to work on your hand reading and board texture.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Gressklippr

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First off, this was great. Really enjoyed it!

I would just to add one thing; If you're going to do any more of these, I would like to hear your thoughts on what kind of hands/ranges you would be playing against different opponents in different spots aswell.

I dunno, maybe that's pointless since that's not what the session is mostly about.

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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What are you using to hide your cards? This will be a good exercise to do at lower stakes to work on your hand reading and board texture.



DeathDonkeys tilt blocker:

http://software.deucescracked.com/DCTiltblocker.zip

And yes that is actually the idea with the execise Smile

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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First off, this was great. Really enjoyed it!

I would just to add one thing; If you're going to do any more of these, I would like to hear your thoughts on what kind of hands/ranges you would be playing against different opponents in different spots aswell.

I dunno, maybe that's pointless since that's not what the session is mostly about.



I'm glad you liked it Smile

Just to make sure I understand your question. Are you asking me, how I play poker when I can see my cards?

Posted almost 4 years ago

Gressklippr

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I'm glad you liked it Smile

Just to make sure I understand your question. Are you asking me, how I play poker when I can see my cards?




Hmm, a very simple example would be if let's say MP (TAG) raises it up in front of you. What kind of hands you would 3bet or just call with. Including

This is a very simple example.

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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Hmm, a very simple example would be if let's say MP (TAG) raises it up in front of you. What kind of hands you would 3bet or just call with. Including

This is a very simple example.



Okay, I did understand you correctly.

I would be willing to 3-bet him with any hand that has no or little value in a single raised pot and hands I can 3-bet for value. My final decision would depend on game flow.

The range of hands I'm calling with depends on how good a read I have on his post flop tendencies and on the game flow.

You can think of game flow as the picture you get when you combine of all recent actions known to the players at the table. Your image is part of that picture and so is the image of every player at the table.

I fully understand that this is likely not really the answer you were looking for (it was a looong way of saying... it depends). But fact of the matter is that that is the truth.

Fundamentally I suggest that people play a pretty standard TAG style a la 2+2 and adjust their ranges as they learn more about the players at the table. The adjustments should fit with the game plan; meaning that we optimize the potential equity and playability of our ranges.

Postflop the hard part is to find the spots where there is more value in manipulating our perceived range and playing villains range and the board.

If I claimed that I understand when to do what I would be claiming that I had solved poker. That is not even remotely the case. I started writing the book as an attempt to understand these adjustments and I have still not finished.

All that said I will think about what I can do.

Posted almost 4 years ago

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I'm 1/2 Austrian, 1/4 Danish and 1/4 Norwegian Smile

I live mostly in Copenhagen, Denmark.



You really sound like a dane.

Posted almost 4 years ago

improva

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You really sound like a dane.



I think you are right Smile

Posted almost 4 years ago

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Is there a chance that you will be making more instructional videos in the future improva?
I think that this video and your forum posts really improved my game Wink

Posted over 3 years ago

improva

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Is there a chance that you will be making more instructional videos in the future improva?
I think that this video and your forum posts really improved my game Wink



Maybe - I mostly do what I think is fun.

Posted over 3 years ago

jjd323

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I made a video-reply to this; it's hosted on the DC file store and talked about in my blog. I really feel like I got a ton out of trying this at small er than my regular stakes and urge others to make a short video of themselves trying the same.

http://www.deucescracked.com/blogs/jjd323/7741-Rush-member-video-upload

Thank-you improva

Posted over 3 years ago

Mr. Fantastic

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Sick vid. I'd love to see more like this.

Posted about 3 years ago

Turkish Fish

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this video blew my mind.

attention all DC NLHE employees:

please make more videos where you hide your holecards from yourself !

Improva, the reason i liked this video so much was that you spent all your time describing postflop strategy, and i think i need the most help with that.

this one is definitely a gem. thank you KRANTZ for putting it in the micro NLHE playlist.

also, Improva, i could watch a whole series of videos where you do this exact same thing, just 8 more times.

Posted over 2 years ago

LastSasquatch

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Time Link to 00:10:15

You have QQ on the right table when he 4bets you >.<

You can see it later when you open up the hand histories.

Posted over 1 year ago



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