Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Chaostracize (Mid Stakes)

saved my day

chaostracize looks mad in that video... look!

just testing it now, brb

Good stuff... You did a great job explaining the thought process for STAG.

Had trouble making it work for me. Will watch again and give it a shot sometime later today.

The fact I am half asleep and had a bit of an episode with a talking sheep giving me dirty looks on my screen earlier after just taking my opium meds probably didn't help.

One thing worth pointing out on the vid though, it was noticable the hands that beat us were the hands right at the top of our range. Not much you can do about that, after all, better hand over good hand is what this style is all about.

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this vid seems really cool so far but i only had time to watch about 10 minutes. i think this series is going to be great, im enjoying the discussion about flatting AK in the blinds. even if we don't decide to pursue the nitty strategy its always nice to reflect a bit on different playing styles. also chaostracize is just a sweet fucking name.

this vid seems really cool so far but i only had time to watch about 10 minutes. i think this series is going to be great, im enjoying the discussion about flatting AK in the blinds. even if we don't decide to pursue the nitty strategy its always nice to reflect a bit on different playing styles. also chaostracize is just a sweet fucking name.

Flatting AK in SB is against some players the new set mining IMO.

i thought this video was a little suspect imho. for example, i think your assertion that a tighter style with a lower winrate will lead to less variance/few big swings is incorrect.

I liked this video a lot, especially the 3bet stuff in relation to tight player.

Anything special I should take into consideration when applying these concepts to FR?

I look forward to the whole series and shame on the one who didn't give top stars!

i thought this video was a little suspect imho. for example, i think your assertion that a tighter style with a lower winrate will lead to less variance/few big swings is incorrect.

How is tighter style => lower variance incorrect Rusty?

Good vid. Looking forward to the next one.

I may have misheard, but I could of swore you opened AK in MP and strongly considered calling a 3-bet to play fit or fold OOP. I didn't bother doing the math but I can't imagine this possibly being a +EV line nitty or not.

i thought this video was a little suspect imho. for example, i think your assertion that a tighter style with a lower winrate will lead to less variance/few big swings is incorrect.

All other things being equal a tighter style will lead to lower variance.

Do not confuse variance with winning or losing money. Your winrate does not enter the variance calculation merely you difference from the mean which will be higher for a LAG.

All other things being equal a tighter style will lead to lower variance.

Do not confuse variance with winning or losing money. Your winrate does not enter the variance calculation merely you difference from the mean which will be higher for a LAG.

oh ok. thanks for clearing that up.

Notice how at 18 minutes in I say that you can't overvalue hands preflop. Then I get it all in with AKo playing 2/2 over 50 hands. Hilarity does not ensue.

sick background, can i have a copy please?

sick background, can i have a copy please?

Seriously, it's my favorite screenshot I've taken for a video yet.

Rob

I like the overall concept of the video but I find myself disagreeing quite a bit.

I think if you're this nitty you should 3bet more, squeeze more (I know this will make the statsa little less nitty but I think you passed up some good spots).

You should probably also stab more in limped pots (like one hand where you had Ax two overcards) given that you should on average rep a tighter range.

I dunno you seemed a little too fit/foldy postflop. I think you should leverage your tight PF image to steal more postflop. I'm also not convinced that the attitude of always fastplaying TP as a nit is all that great. Maybe I misunderstood something there but it seemed like you were always willing to get mucho$ in with TPGK.

But maybe it just hurts to see so many beautifull hands being folded
Either way, looking forward to the next videos in the series. Don't take this as an allout "lolwat" response.

mhh cant rly watch the dl version, just quits after 5minutes

is the whole vid in this 15/13 style?

I'm not sure if I like this vid. The idea is interesting, but when I see this I just constantly think 'lol, these plays all suck...'

I really don't think teaching a 15/13 style is great for games nowadays. It simply is not that profitable and will REALLY hurt you when you try to move up and realise you play like a robot.

I liked it, your commentary is pretty good.

Pretty sure the point of the series is not teaching a nit style but instead teaching how styles differ. I think a 15/13 style can be played extremly profitably at 200NL especially if you can play a billion tables.

You stupid idiot for reraising KJ!

Very thoughtful video Chaos (as is DC's stock-in-trade). Looking forward to rest of series (assuming the pilot is picked-up, which I think it should be).

Nice vid sir. Well u nearly explained my nit style. Iam playing as standart line exactly this preflop range.But I do stealing and squeezing a little more, and iam little more agressive in this BvsB situations. But through this video I could get more deep in my own style. So Iam exicited about ur next one. BTW u american guys please dont start playing this style...its only for us germans.

I don't post too much but I do play nl200 on full tilt exclusively under a few names.

In the 6 years I have played shorthanded online, pretty much every day, I have seen the way poker has changed, especially after the legislation.

The reason the games will always be profitable, even if people learn different strategies from websites like deuces cracked, cardrunners, etc., is because they either do not apply them very often, or the game changes. When the game changes, the strategies of the regs change as well, you just have to adapt to the way the games are being played.

The game has changed a lot, and even at the lower limits (FTP) I have noticed a massive increase in aggression over the past year.

Since this is the case, I could definetly see tightening up being very, very profitable. I have not tried it yet but I have thought about this for a year now, and with all the people who think they are regs just 4 bet bluffing a ton, shoving marginal hands in pre-flop for meta purposes, and bluffing off tons of draws (especially in 3 bet pots), I can see this working.

I thought the video was pretty good. I do agree that you can squeeze a larger portion of the time given your style. Maybe a few more 3 bets. Other than that I will stay tuned for the next episode, I like the idea personally.

I don't post too much but I do play nl200 on full tilt exclusively under a few names.

So you're a cheater?

So you're a cheater?

+1

How can you expect to get it in pre flop against a wide range in the AK hand vs. PorNPokerMan when your stats after 40+ hands is 0/0.
Feels like your up against QQ+,AK at it's best even though he's such loose. Didn't mention anything about it in the vid, got any thoughts about that?

EDIT: Okay I'm sry. Next time i'll comment i'm gonna watch the whole video before since u just mentioned it

gg wp.

I like the overall concept of the video but I find myself disagreeing quite a bit.

I think if you're this nitty you should 3bet more, squeeze more (I know this will make the statsa little less nitty but I think you passed up some good spots).

You should probably also stab more in limped pots (like one hand where you had Ax two overcards) given that you should on average rep a tighter range.

I dunno you seemed a little too fit/foldy postflop. I think you should leverage your tight PF image to steal more postflop. I'm also not convinced that the attitude of always fastplaying TP as a nit is all that great. Maybe I misunderstood something there but it seemed like you were always willing to get mucho$ in with TPGK.

But maybe it just hurts to see so many beautifull hands being folded
Either way, looking forward to the next videos in the series. Don't take this as an allout "lolwat" response.

i agree here. Also, why no raise when the SB open completes your BB when you hold Q10o? This has to be a raise 15/13 or not. I mean you have position, you're ahead of his open completing range, etc. Just seems more weak tight than nitty . . .

Bumping ancient video. I've been trying to tighten up for the last 40K hands but constantly failed. This video helped me tremendously. I could instantly do what I failed to do in the last 40K hands.

Instead of shaving off bad spots from my old game, I'm looking to build upon my new game (based on this style). There's only the pilot video, but Chaostracize is still a coach, right? Any chance Chaostracize could do part 2 of this, which would be presumably be about how to open up a bit from this style?

sick background, can i have a copy please?

http://fc13.deviantart.com/fs6/i/2005/104/2/d/sheep_dual_display_by_teocava.jpg

Just finished yesterday. Should be out soonish.

All other things being equal a tighter style will lead to lower variance.

Do not confuse variance with winning or losing money. Your winrate does not enter the variance calculation merely you difference from the mean which will be higher for a LAG.

That is true. This kind of argument becomes problematic though when playing overly tight does lower you winrate significantly. What people are hurt by most is not variance, but only the negative part of it --- i.e. situations where you stay on a downswing for a long period of time. If you have a huge winrate, even if your variance is bigger as well, but not that much bigger, your downswings are going to be shorter.

And I'm not saying that LAG doesn't lead to bigger/longer downswings

CD

well done. I kinda picked up some things.

btw you sound like tom dwan(sp?) =)