Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Sounded Simple (Micro/Small Stakes)

The AJs fold UTG:

If you raise AQs, probably because of pair value, more like for flush value, what is the difference between AQs and AJs?

New Kid stated that he usually raises EP 77+,AQ+ but several times in the vid he actually raised 33+ from EP. Comments?

Good comments about getting value and bet-sizing. Good illustrative hands with T8o flopping trips multi-way and also AJ in blinds that Rivered a straight vs loose flop re-raiser.

The AJs fold UTG:

If you raise AQs, probably because of pair value, more like for flush value, what is the difference between AQs and AJs?

Its more to have a hand that can still have good equity against the setminers who are pretty rampant (even decent tags play straightforward and try to crack your strong UTG range).
AJs and AQs are pretty similar but unless I have a good reason to I just drop the AJs, yes its only one hand value but playing TP hands is tough enough OOP without having to worry about flopping a Jxx and value towning yourself against JJ/QQ.
If there was a super fish around I might open up a little more in the hope of isolating and stacking them.

New Kid stated that he usually raises EP 77+,AQ+ but several times in the vid he actually raised 33+ from EP. Comments?

You would have to ask Eric to be sure but I think this is an example of his game in progression. The vid was probably recorded a while back and his conversations with the coaches here I think have steered him away from low pp in EP.

I don't think that low PP in EP will lose you a lot of money, but they almost certainly wont make you much either. What they will do is often leave you OOP on the turn with an underpair and no idea what to do.
This may not seem so important at uNL because we dont expect to get pure bluff floated but if a guy is peeling 57 on an A72 flop then we are the ones making the "mistake" with 33/44/55.

This will get worse as you move up and deal with better players so I just drop these hands and use the table time to open up a wider button and cut off range.

and what if we raised hands like that pure for flush value/semi bluf value and never for pair value?

People put villian on a tight range because it's UTG, so why can't we be more wide from there?

I really don't think it would work out too well.
Not only are we not getting value from TP very often since FR players will fold worse TP and medium strength hands to our bets. Also remember the basics AQ on a Qxx is much stronger than AJ on Jxx or Txx simply because we are ahead more often and stay ahead more often.

When I was grinding the micros I always heard people repeating the advice "tighter EP looser LP" over and over again. At that time I was thinking "I cant be any tigher in EP or any looser in LP", since that time I have more than doubled my LP range and probably cut 30% or more from my EP range.

Id love to be proved wrong - seriously (who doesnt want to play more hands?). So you could always play loose from EP over a million hand sample and come back to me with the results.
Or you could ship me several $K and I could tell you not to and that would be the cheaper option

Its more to have a hand that can still have good equity against the setminers who are pretty rampant (even decent tags play straightforward and try to crack your strong UTG range).
AJs and AQs are pretty similar but unless I have a good reason to I just drop the AJs, yes its only one hand value but playing TP hands is tough enough OOP without having to worry about flopping a Jxx and value towning yourself against JJ/QQ.

Seems like people playing straightforward/trying to setmine is a GREAT reason to play those hands, postflop is going to be super easy to play. We have a hand that can potentially cooler sets with a nutflush or nutstraight and when we flop TPTK we can be very happy with folding when we meet resistance (something that is not going to happen a lot since flopping sets/monsters is not easy for villain).

This may not seem so important at uNL because we dont expect to get pure bluff floated but if a guy is peeling 57 on an A72 flop then we are the ones making the "mistake" with 33/44/55.

I'm very happy to cbet any 2 if I know they only peel/float stuff like 75 on A72r. Flopping pairs is not easy, and if people play fit or fold you have good cbet opportunities on almost any flop.

What they will do is often leave you OOP on the turn with an underpair and no idea what to do.

It's very easy, time for a check/fold on the turn.

Disclaimer; I don't play full ring (except live), I'm just allergic for nits

Hey Hielko, loved your series btw.

The thing about EP in Full Ring is that there are 4-6 players with position on you who can do any of the following if you have AJo/ATo/KQo/87s/33;
- Flop great hands and put you in trouble
- Flop medium hands and draws on ugly boards and put you in trouble
- Be bad enough to peel you with overs and put you in trouble
- Be good enough to peel you with overs and put you in trouble

Again, I'm not saying that AJs or 33 will lose you money especially at the micros but most uNL players have a lot of trouble playing OOP. If you had exceptional skill advantage over the table then yes you should and must go ahead and exploit every edge, you might find it tough when multitabling to assess an entire table repeatedly.

Also, even if you were to prove or show that these hands showed a small profit you have to offset the fact that you will be playing lots of marginal spots OOP, this can lead to missed spots on other tables and possible tilt.

Finally a uNL player might open these at 25 and 50 and do OK with them, when they move up to small stakes they will have to adjust though because people like to make moves a little more and can read hands a little better.

Playing out of position is always bad.

Doing it in full ring where you are likely to be out of position against multiple people,

well that's exponentially bad.

Just my 2c.

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Hey everyone, first post here, not that of a big deal but here's my 2 cents.
First of all I like your vids man, and showing some uNL is great.

Against this guy who's a nit, on this very dry board he'll only call with a King, Aces, or a set. So that's a VERY low percentage of times. Therefore, I think we can bet close to half pot here, like .55 than .70, so we can save extra money for times when he'll call.
Ok that's only one bb and one sb, but there are so many spots like this which will come up, I think that could improve the winrate and I was just thinking about being optimal there.

Tell me what you think

Hey everyone, first post here, not that of a big deal but here's my 2 cents.
First of all I like your vids man, and showing some uNL is great.

Against this guy who's a nit, on this very dry board he'll only call with a King, Aces, or a set. So that's a VERY low percentage of times. Therefore, I think we can bet close to half pot here, like .55 than .70, so we can save extra money for times when he'll call.
Ok that's only one bb and one sb, but there are so many spots like this which will come up, I think that could improve the winrate and I was just thinking about being optimal there.

Tell me what you think

Lol ok you just say it one minute after, sorry.

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When flop comes AQcTc, what if the opponent was a reg like 17/12, would you still bet this flop ?

Yes

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In this spot would you 3 bet with 99 here or a hand like 99? He could fold now or is going to fold alot of his LP openeing range on most flops? Im new and this is usually a spot I 3bet is that a mistake and if so how would you play it?

In this spot would you 3 bet with 99 here or a hand like 99? He could fold now or is going to fold alot of his LP openeing range on most flops? Im new and this is usually a spot I 3bet is that a mistake and if so how would you play it?

Against almost all players I'm not 3-betting small-mid PP. The exception is where getting it in pre-flop is good, or the player is just so bad that 99 can get lots of value on lots of boards.

Of course it's not bad to 3b 99, it will show a profit. However there are 2 reasons I flat
(1) 99 plays really well in single raised pots. Sets are awesome but we are often good for showdown and can get value.
(2) 3-Betting this spot is massive +EV but you don't have to waste hands that are good for seeing flops such as mid pairs and SCs. Use Kxs, Qxs or mid offsuit connectors that you would otherwise have folded.

(note this is only against players who will fold at some point)

Thank you I think this is one of my leaks and im missing value because I often 3 bet LP raises with hands like mid PP and KQS type hands. What would be your 3bet range from a LP opener if your on the button or in the blinds?
I was also wondering would 99 type hands be a 3bet if your in the blinds due to the fact you will be out of position the rest of the hand? or would you still flat with the same range?

Thank you I think this is one of my leaks and im missing value because I often 3 bet LP raises with hands like mid PP and KQS type hands. What would be your 3bet range from a LP opener if your on the button or in the blinds?
I was also wondering would 99 type hands be a 3bet if your in the blinds due to the fact you will be out of position the rest of the hand? or would you still flat with the same range?

I'd still flat them almost always because
- People cbet the flop waaaaay to often
- People don't put you in tough spots on the turn at uNL

So you can flat and play near perfectly against most players.

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On the bottom right table, francisco and this other guy are playing a hand. I forget the pre-flop play but francisco cbets pot into the fish (base on stats) and the fish min re-raises, they end up going all-in. Francisco had an over-pair and the fish had trips. I get into a descent number of spots like this (where I have the over pair and the other guy has at least two pair or something of the sort). I was wondering where you would fold, why or even if you would do the same as fransisco?

On the bottom right table, francisco and this other guy are playing a hand. I forget the pre-flop play but francisco cbets pot into the fish (base on stats) and the fish min re-raises, they end up going all-in. Francisco had an over-pair and the fish had trips. I get into a descent number of spots like this (where I have the over pair and the other guy has at least two pair or something of the sort). I was wondering where you would fold, why or even if you would do the same as fransisco?

Without meaning to over simplify it's a matter of putting him on a range and using a little logic.
With an over pair against a half stacked 39/9 I'm probably going broke as a default, if he was full stacked I'm probably calling and re-evaluating, probably folding to a large turn bet (the difference in stack sizes means that he will have a tighter range himself for wanting to put all the money in).

The key thing to remember is that (unless you have a read to the contrary) when a passive player min-raises you he does not want you to fold. Often but not always he will have an overpair beat, though he may be "protecting" a hand as weak as J9 on that board.

If you observed this player playing draws and medium strength pairs by check/calling then it's possible to find a fold even for half a stack.

The more aggressive splashy fish will often have a much weaker range or will be on a pure bluff so obviously we should be keen to get max value on the flop.

If this player were a tight micros regular then a CR is almost always a hand stronger than JJ or a very very strong draw (again this assumption only holds until we get a read).



A good exercise to get a clear view of what flop CR means in your games is to just filter HEM for all the times you saw the play and make a list of what you see at showdown.