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What Would Joe Tall Do?: Episode Three

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What Would Joe Tall Do?: Episode Three by Joe Tall, whitelime

Joe Tall sits down with Executive Producer, whitelime, where they go over the tight spots of a recent 50NL 6-max session that Joe Tall played. Watch the detailed analysis of every hand as they reveal the correct answers to the Quiz.

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Grand prize winner of the DC Invent-A-Series Contest. This interactive series tests your practical knowledge of Small Stakes No Limit Hold'em. Every other week Joe Tall will post a quiz asking about various hand situations that come up in the game, then on the following week he posts answers in the form of a video with one other DC coach. Prizes will be awarded for those getting the highest scores each week and the highest overall score at the end of the series. Look for quizzes in the Small Stakes forum.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 58 minutes long
  • Posted almost 3 years ago

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Comments for What Would Joe Tall Do?: Episode Three

kabal

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dammit, really need a reminder for the quizes, keep missing them Smile

Posted almost 3 years ago

danndann1

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whitelime, ur a demigod man... keep it up, i hope one day ill have the roll to coach me...

Posted almost 3 years ago

dispatch3d

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joe it'd be good if two of the hands are vs the same opponent, and one is played later than th eother, that you show the results of the first hand. Emil even said "based off the previous hand, I would bet AJ here". I think part of the reason i would rather bet knowing the previous hand, is that if we check he's going to bet underpairs to the board and he maaayyyy check back his draws, so may as well valuebet. but anywayyyyyys, maybe i'm just upset i wasn't number 1?

good series+episode.

also it'd be cool if you could tell whose coaching so we can adjust our strategies accordingly (whitelime id obv start betting and raising a bunch more, and folds kinda overrated ;-))

Posted almost 3 years ago

kozat

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WRAPPEDInPLASTiC

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great series! congrats IAGTTAYM and tuba!

Posted almost 3 years ago

AMT

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deez video is g00t IMHO.


Very nice guys, thanks.

Posted almost 3 years ago

kondor101

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joe it'd be good if two of the hands are vs the same opponent, and one is played later than th eother, that you show the results of the first hand. Emil even said "based off the previous hand, I would bet AJ here". I think part of the reason i would rather bet knowing the previous hand, is that if we check he's going to bet underpairs to the board and he maaayyyy check back his draws, so may as well valuebet. but anywayyyyyys, maybe i'm just upset i wasn't number 1?

good series+episode.

also it'd be cool if you could tell whose coaching so we can adjust our strategies accordingly (whitelime id obv start betting and raising a bunch more, and folds kinda overrated ;-))



I was going to use this excuse too, then I remembered we all have the same info at the beginning so I couldn't use it. Nice try though Smile

AQo is a crap hand OOP, probably even more so in a big pot (?) so are we 3betting this just as a squeeze or is it something that we should really do anyway? The reason I am asking is I am wondering if it is really that bad to just fold it when the chances of us getting a call are pretty high due to the multiway action so far. Are we really losing money folding it compared with 3betting it?

Posted almost 3 years ago

DonkHero

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Still rigged. Playing for the nut low now.

Posted almost 3 years ago

Deszcz

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So does JT have some East European / Russian ties or something?

Posted almost 3 years ago

Joe Tall

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[quote]So does JT have some East European / Russian ties or something?[/quote

I am 100% Lithuanian, but 3rd generation US citizen.

Posted almost 3 years ago

Joe Tall

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Melville

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I am 100% Lithuanian, but 3rd generation US citizen.

so your 8 grand grand parents were all lithuanians? wow Smile

Posted almost 3 years ago

Joe Tall

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so your 8 grand grand parents were all lithuanians? wow Smile



Yep, pure O-positive blood.

Posted almost 3 years ago

WeekendWarrior

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I like this series!!
The intro tune is awesome
TUTUUTUU TUU TUUT TUU TUU TUUU lol xD

Posted almost 3 years ago

improva

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8Diamond 6Diamond in the SB. I would not hate a small raise (1.5$) just to get the initiativ. The idea is that the weak player will call the small raise with all of his limping range but our perceived strength goes way up and we take it down post flop with a higher frq - because our c-bet carries more weight and the limper turns into a fit or fold player.

It would be a mistake to raise BIG preflop but the small raise is a sweet sweet way to milk the limper. The reason that we don't want to raise BIG preflop is that a big raise is likely to give the limper a stronger range post flop.

Some might argue that we are OOP. This only matters if the limper understands how he can use his position post flop. I would be very surprised.

Posted almost 3 years ago

danndann1

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8Diamond 6Diamond in the SB. I would not hate a small raise (1.5$) just to get the initiativ. The idea is that the weak player will call the small raise with all of his limping range but our perceived strength goes way up and we take it down post flop with a higher frq - because our c-bet carries more weight and the limper turns into a fit or fold player.

It would be a mistake to raise BIG preflop but the small raise is a sweet sweet way to milk the limper. The reason that we don't want to raise BIG preflop is that a big raise is likely to give the limper a stronger range post flop.

Some might argue that we are OOP. This only matters if the limper understands how he can use his position post flop. I would be very surprised.



i like this very much

Posted almost 3 years ago

Jewlian

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Betting the betting AJ on the xTQQ board on the turn vs the loose passive opponent is BAAAD.

1.) Since he called the flop and nothing changed on the turn to make his hand weaker, he is definitely calling the turn.

2.) There are many draws on the turn so if we fire the turn we will have to fire most rivers. Since we don't know just how much of a calling station he is we may be burning money in doing so.

3.) Since the guy doesn't seem to like to bet big a check call would be a lot cheaper than the price we'd be giving ourselves if we in fact bet with nearly 0% fold equity.

Posted almost 3 years ago

whitelime

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I was going to use this excuse too, then I remembered we all have the same info at the beginning so I couldn't use it. Nice try though Smile

AQo is a crap hand OOP, probably even more so in a big pot (?) so are we 3betting this just as a squeeze or is it something that we should really do anyway? The reason I am asking is I am wondering if it is really that bad to just fold it when the chances of us getting a call are pretty high due to the multiway action so far. Are we really losing money folding it compared with 3betting it?



I think folding this hand would be a huge mistake. Even if you are below average postflop for the stakes you play, I think AQ turns a profit in this situation. Given that it's a squeeze situation, I think this is a fist pump reraise.

Posted almost 3 years ago

whitelime

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8Diamond 6Diamond in the SB. I would not hate a small raise (1.5$) just to get the initiativ. The idea is that the weak player will call the small raise with all of his limping range but our perceived strength goes way up and we take it down post flop with a higher frq - because our c-bet carries more weight and the limper turns into a fit or fold player.

It would be a mistake to raise BIG preflop but the small raise is a sweet sweet way to milk the limper. The reason that we don't want to raise BIG preflop is that a big raise is likely to give the limper a stronger range post flop.

Some might argue that we are OOP. This only matters if the limper understands how he can use his position post flop. I would be very surprised.



If the limper were a straight forward fit or fold player postflop, I still think raising is bad because we have 8 high and there's no need to balance our range against these players. Given that he is a pretty big loose passive fish calling station, I think raising is really bad. This is a situation where completing the SB is significantly better than any other option.

Posted almost 3 years ago

rocketragz

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G4L

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I got a question about the AJo hand where it is btn vs sb. So the button was like 15/13 w/fold-to-3bet 76% (or something) - what are we trying to accomplish with this 3bet? I mean I dont see much weaker hands he is really calling us with and we could easily get ourselves to very tough spots postflop because of his tightness and us being OOP in a bloated pot. So are we turning the hand into a bluff here or what? Shouldn't we try then to just call the pfr and play a smaller pot vs. a wider range of hands (obv including lots of hands we beat (and dominate))?

Posted almost 3 years ago

improva

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If the limper were a straight forward fit or fold player postflop, I still think raising is bad because we have 8 high and there's no need to balance our range against these players. Given that he is a pretty big loose passive fish calling station, I think raising is really bad. This is a situation where completing the SB is significantly better than any other option.



If it matters that we have 8 high here the argument for raising small goes away I could not agree more. But I guess that you would then not be isolating him with a wide range OTB? With a hand like 65s?

Posted almost 3 years ago

whitelime

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I got a question about the AJo hand where it is btn vs sb. So the button was like 15/13 w/fold-to-3bet 76% (or something) - what are we trying to accomplish with this 3bet? I mean I dont see much weaker hands he is really calling us with and we could easily get ourselves to very tough spots postflop because of his tightness and us being OOP in a bloated pot. So are we turning the hand into a bluff here or what? Shouldn't we try then to just call the pfr and play a smaller pot vs. a wider range of hands (obv including lots of hands we beat (and dominate))?



We are turning almost an automatic profit because he is folding so much but even when called, the only hand that dominates us is going to be AQ, AK/JJ+ would probably just 4-bet preflop. I don't think we're going to have too many issues postflop. If anything, we can bluff him off AQ when the flop misses.

Posted almost 3 years ago

guruman

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love the 65s commentary.

Play some poker folks, what are you waiting for!

awesome. Smile

Posted almost 3 years ago



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