Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (High Stakes)

Time Link to 00:16:24

I think that vs intelligent opponent is check on river best. Turn and river was worst cards in deck because every good oponnent will expect that you do not bluff this flop with K or Q high and he will expect you continue with your bluffs because board look scary. I will much more scared with my 55 if
turn was 7 and river 9.

BBB: you made a comment that you are upset that you found yourself taking an acton you otherwise wouldnt in a review process.

Firstly - I think you should view it very positively - as it shows room for improvement which is good, right?

Secondly - you might consider that you have found a process leak. If you narrow down the differences between a review process and in-game decision making - you might be able to find the reason for these aberrant bets.

a) amount of time for decision assessment - you could be playing too many tables
b) when in the session they were - you might have been tilting or tired

Both of which you can remedy....

good vid anyway.

Maybe that was just stating the obvious - but sometimes we forget the obvious.

oh funny you mention it near end of vid anyway.

I think that vs intelligent opponent is check on river best. Turn and river was worst cards in deck because every good oponnent will expect that you do not bluff this flop with K or Q high and he will expect you continue with your bluffs because board look scary. I will much more scared with my 55 if
turn was 7 and river 9.

Yeah, I agree, vs a solid reg who I know better I might not bet river. But since this guy was unknown to me at the time I think I should have bet.

BBB: you made a comment that you are upset that you found yourself taking an acton you otherwise wouldnt in a review process.

Firstly - I think you should view it very positively - as it shows room for improvement which is good, right?

Secondly - you might consider that you have found a process leak. If you narrow down the differences between a review process and in-game decision making - you might be able to find the reason for these aberrant bets.

a) amount of time for decision assessment - you could be playing too many tables
b) when in the session they were - you might have been tilting or tired

Both of which you can remedy....

good vid anyway.

I like your post. I've been trying to stick to a maximum of 4 tables in the last day or two and I feel a little less harried and with more thinking time.

babar, your voice makes me horny.

You won 30BBs without seeing a flop over the course of 350 hands? That's 0.5BB / 1 big blind per orbit you stole.

Hand 2 with the QQ: I think turn checkraise on the Kxx board is actually pretty awesome. You are going to have to put in 2BB on the turn anyway if the opponent has a king (because he is going to raise you and you'll have to call down). I think you guys dismiss the play too fast because you feel your hand isn't strong enough to checkraise, but don't note that by leading turn you open yourself up to getting raised anyway.

So check-raising gets an extra BB vs some hands. Often villain is drawing dead or to 3-5 outs so giving a free card isn't devastating, there's the chance villain improves to a worse hand. Also makes you a bitch to play against. You do miss value from Ax that may call turn and river but that's not a cert. You might induce bluffs from hands that would otherwise fold. On the flip side... checkraising opens us up to a 3bet. Also leading turn may induce some bluff raises.

So there's lots to consider with a turn checkraise but i think it's a great play to have in your arsenal in spots like this.

I think that vs intelligent opponent is check on river best. Turn and river was worst cards in deck because every good oponnent will expect that you do not bluff this flop with K or Q high and he will expect you continue with your bluffs because board look scary. I will much more scared with my 55 if
turn was 7 and river 9.

Pretty much my thoughts. The K and Q are great bricks for him. You say in the vid you don't want to see him call down with 77 here because they are the hands you are targetting; 77 should be happy to see how the board came out - no clubs, no 7s or 8s. There's now no K highs for you to fold.

Really not sure why you guys think this is a good board texture to barrel off on.

18:44: it's not 100% clear but i think you say on this k77 board vs a button steal you would rather have QJ than A3, is that right?

I don't quite follow. Sure A3 has less ways to improve than QJ if our opponent holds a good ace; but vs his range (that includes lots of pairso f Ks), the ace fairs better. By my calcs it has around 10% more equity vs a button steal range. Ax seems easier to play too when we improve.

Regarding mistakes - what DD says seems right, looks like you may be misreading the action, in that you look at these spots and just assume you have the initiative.

Do you have Live Tracking enabled in HEM? works great on stars and FT now, and is excellent for reading the betting actions on previous streets to see who has initiative.

babar, your voice makes me horny.

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You won 30BBs without seeing a flop over the course of 350 hands? That's 0.5BB / 1 big blind per orbit you stole.

Yeah the import of this didn't really sink in until I watched the video after we made it.

Regarding mistakes - what DD says seems right, looks like you may be misreading the action, in that you look at these spots and just assume you have the initiative.

Do you have Live Tracking enabled in HEM? works great on stars and FT now, and is excellent for reading the betting actions on previous streets to see who has initiative.

No, what's live tracking?

No, what's live tracking?

http://www.sickread.com/blog/article/holdem-manager-update-live-tracking/

http://www.sickread.com/blog/article/holdem-manager-update-live-tracking/

Wow nice, thanks for that!

Time Link to 00:42:59

Just to make sure, because we're more likely to semibluff on this type of board with something like Q9, rather than c/c, we should also be c/r our good hands? And because our peeling range is pretty narrow and confined to mid pair (ish) hands?

What would you do on such a board with a hand like A4? c/c and see what comes on turn?

Quick question about your HUD. Is there any particular reason you don't show AF or AFq on your HUD? I mean, sure it converges slowly, but so does WTSD/W$SD. Is just easy to use it to differentiate the fish if there loose passive or loose aggro or the TAG fit/fold rakeback grinders.

Quick question about your HUD. Is there any particular reason you don't show AF or AFq on your HUD? I mean, sure it converges slowly, but so does WTSD/W$SD. Is just easy to use it to differentiate the fish if there loose passive or loose aggro or the TAG fit/fold rakeback grinders.

I'm certainly open to tinkering with the HUD. For a long time I had more on it than I really used. I stripped it down as you see it now and have been happy with it recently. I think the aggression numbers and the fold blinds to steal and the steal stats would be the three that I'd add on, but then all of a sudden I get up over 10 or 11 different things, which I feel like is too many.

Just to make sure, because we're more likely to semibluff on this type of board with something like Q9, rather than c/c, we should also be c/r our good hands? And because our peeling range is pretty narrow and confined to mid pair (ish) hands?

What would you do on such a board with a hand like A4? c/c and see what comes on turn?

I don't think that our peeling range is confined to 'mid pairish hands' its just basically we don't peel this board 100% so there is less merit in "protecting" our peels by waiting til the turn for value. Our flop call here has at least some meaning. Compare that to a 3 bet pot where you raised in MP and the flop comes 234, I highly doubt anyone check/folds that flop with any 2 cards, so a peel means basically nothing (unless you give it meaning by raising with some range there).

Time Link to 00:16:20

might it be better to c/r the turn as a semi-bluff with the 66 paired to give you cover,its a brave man that calls with what he has.
I suspect they do respect turn raises?

might it be better to c/r the turn as a semi-bluff with the 66 paired to give you cover,its a brave man that calls with what he has.
I suspect they do respect turn raises?

I don't know what specific hand (KQ) he has though - just a range of reasonably strong hands. My checkraise flop then check turn line would look pretty suspicious, so I suspect he'd either check back, or bet/call down with almost all of his range. With KQ or smaller pairs checking back seems fine. With Ax he'd bet/call down. I could even get 3bet by strong hands, other draws, or air since my line looks so oddball. Then I'm putting in way more money than I want to. Plus, if he had a hand he would have considered folding the turn if I'd bet, now with my check I don't get that fold out of him.

I'd say in general they don't respect turn raises much these days, especially in blind vs blind battles.