Good work guys. The vandweller owns.
In this fourth installment of RLMSG, veloblank is having trouble wrapping his head around medium-stacked headsup play, and he and vandweller take a look at some relevant hands.
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Good work guys. The vandweller owns.
This series is the best SNG series at any site, ever. Period.
Does he collude w/ other microstakes players?
hahahahahaha
yay! go for the sweat session
maybe you should try mikogo or showmypc, for me they work better than teamviewer ![]()
Am I right to call allins in both of these?
Villain 1 is 8/5/3
Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 4 players - View hand 105301
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: t1065 M = 1.52
Hero (BB): t7560 M = 10.80
CO: t3455 M = 4.94
BTN: t1420 M = 2.03
Pre Flop: (t700) Hero is BB with K
3 
2 folds, SB raises to t1040 all in, Hero calls t640
Flop: (t2180) Q
4
T
(2 players - 1 is all in)
Turn: (t2180) 4
(2 players - 1 is all in)
River: (t2180) 8
(2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: t2180
SB shows J
J
(two pair, Jacks and Fours)
Hero shows K
3
(a pair of Fours)
SB wins t2180
Villain 2 is 17/11/2
Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 4 players - View hand 105305
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: t1005 M = 1.44
Hero (BB): t6220 M = 8.89
CO: t3455 M = 4.94
BTN: t2820 M = 4.03
Pre Flop: (t700) Hero is BB with J
J 
1 fold, BTN raises to t2795 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls t2395
Flop: (t5890) A
T
8
(2 players - 1 is all in)
Turn: (t5890) 9
(2 players - 1 is all in)
River: (t5890) 6
(2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: t5890
Hero shows J
J
(a pair of Jacks)
BTN shows A
6
(two pair, Aces and Sixes)
BTN wins t5890
I would post these hands in the tournament forum, not here.
In the first hand it costs you 640 to call to win 1740 so you are getting 2.7:1. Any time you are getting 2:1 or better in these situations you are most likely correct in calling, especially w/ K3s.
The second hand is a definite call. People at these stakes will be shoving a TON of hands and JJ is way ahead of their range. As you can see, he had A6 and you were a huge favorite.
Thanks Tec. I will post these in the tourney forum in the future.
This was the same tournament and went from 6-7k to 2k still 4 handed with very high blinds. Placed third and had to rethink my allin calls that got me to that point, but I feel better about them now. Was trying for KO in K3 hand obv KO in JJ, but didn't know if I should be getting involved or not, due to hands vs. stack size in both of them.
thanks
These now appear in the tourney forum anyway -- no need to post them elsewhere, really.
Equity considerations could distort the plain-sense conclusions, but not here. In both hands, you're risking relatively little equity.
Note that in the K3s hand you're getting odds to call K3s against any opposing hand except KK and AA. His range is above average, because good players realize that you're virtually forced to call and so shouldn't shove a much below-average hand here. But even (pretending we're in brick-and-mortar poker) if he showed you two jacks, you'd have to call getting almost 3:1.
Veloblank, it sounds like you may be lapsing into results-oriented thinking. It happens to us all at some point, and it's especially easy in SNGworld where the theory is less intuitive (because of equity distortions). You can find some threads a couple of months ago where I was frustrated about shoving AK in very obvious situations because I kept getting into confrontations with low pairs.
If you need convincing, run this in an ICM calculator such as Wiz or EGT. For example, the JJ call only becomes dubious (but still EV of +0.1%) if you think he's shoving less than 5% there, i.e. he's folding 99. That's just not realistic. For it to be clearly bad his range needs to be 3%, JJ+ and AK. Nobody's folding tens there.
When is the next episode scheduled?
great series...vandweller, you got me thinking in such a better way about high blind play...hope you do the "chip accume" section you mentioned... can't wait for your book!
After a really promising start, this series seems to be going downhill. Maybe I had unrealistic expectations. I'm nothing special as a poker player, but I am a professional teacher, and I would get fired if I went into a lesson with as little preparation as you put into this last episode.
I'm hoping the delay on episode 5 indicates that we can expect something a bit more ... polished.
Yeah... First three episodes were top quality.
The fourth seemed a little rushed.
Overall a thing that puzzles me is that Vandweller keeps apologizing for the videos being so long... I wan't them to be long, as long as they're good! So stop apologizing! :-P
.. and Velo... Don't be afraid to speak up! I'd rather hear you make a lot of wrong statements that can be corrected, than having to guess what you think. We've all been there! That said, it actually sounded like you have a better grasp on things in the fourth episode.
Please release the next episode soon!
The series is on schedule. It comes out every 2 weeks and last week was overall sweeps week for all of DC vid series. We should have RLMSG 5 out this week.
...but I am a professional teacher, and I would get fired if I went into a lesson with as little preparation as you put into this last episode.
That's probably a bit of hyperbole. One bad day and you'd be fired? In that case, I'm glad I don't have a job!
I'm hoping the delay on episode 5
There's no delay in episode 5; it's all on schedule.
indicates that we can expect something a bit more ... polished.
The fourth seemed a little rushed.
I think these are valid criticisms. I *was* a bit rushed. I was behind schedule on a lot of things going on at the time. I had an idea of what I wanted the video to be, but it didn't quite go that way, and I didn't leave myself enough time to re-consider or re-do it. I am making this series as the season goes on, not having it all done in advance. I think that adds some "real life" drama and immediacy to it, but there are risks inherent with that approach. Anyhow, every coach with any significant catalog has put out a clunker or two, and I'm not exempt from that.
</defensiveness>
Anyway, I plan on making videos for as long as they'll keep me around and I have stuff in the works for the future that will knock your collective socks off.
If anyone has constructive suggestions, I'd be happy to entertain them.
I posted in the Tourney Poker forums for this, but Van itd be GREAT if you or one of the other SnG Guys (AMT, Bones or Goggles) did a vid on Super Turbos, i posted why in the tourney poker forum...but thought id post here as well since you specifically asked or ideas.
That and HUSnG since there is no definitive series out there on those
I posted in the Tourney Poker forums for this, but Van itd be GREAT if you or one of the other SnG Guys (AMT, Bones or Goggles) did a vid on Super Turbos, i posted why in the tourney poker forum...but thought id post here as well since you specifically asked or ideas.
That and HUSnG since there is no definitive series out there on those
I hope you noted my response in your original thread.
I did, i posted this a long time ago ![]()
Thanks guys for the vids! I'm definately learning here!
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Do you really think this is an easy fold here? We're gettin' about almost 2:1 and our hand isn't that bad. King could be good, maybe the nine, flushdraw, bdstraightdraw.
i was thinking that myself. i'm pretty much going with this hand. i think a donk bet shove or check/raise looks strong enough to have some FE vs Ax hands where there's no flush draw. also lower pairs may fold as well. you did bet and call a 3bet here. also the boards not looking all to good with a hnad w/no diamond. i do agree a fold preflop is much better here though. but post flop i think i go with it.
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