Ulkis
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I hadn't really followed this series seriously but having seen this episode, I need to go back to older ones. I now understand what this is about, it's not strictly strategy, it's not strictly theory, nor practise, it's like a combo of these + cliff notes how to think in order to eliminate illogical actions.
A lot of it seems quite elementary and basic but from a fresh angle.
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danndann1
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cjpoker22
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Great vid. I thought there was some great nuts and bolts to making good decisions. If you could follow up with a replayer of hands and situations that would be awesome to kind of cement the concepts. Best vid so far.
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Gregster6
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Josh,
Great stuff as ever.
On the section about using reads to make C-bet decisions...vs player that "Calls rarely / raises a lot" (around 1:14:10) you say to:
"Check made hands / draws that can't take heat; polarize your range and value TP-big kicker more."
What do you mean here by polarize your range? and why is this the recommendation here?
Thanks
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sthief09
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Josh,
Great stuff as ever.
On the section about using reads to make C-bet decisions...vs player that "Calls rarely / raises a lot" (around 1:14:10) you say to:
What do you mean here by polarize your range? and why is this the recommendation here?
Thanks
ahh I really shouldn't have said that. not because it's wrong, but because it's a buzz word and instead I should have explained it. I'm glad you asked though. this is an important concept, because it applies to other situations too.
in this situation, he's playing raise-or-fold against you. if he folds, the value of your hand doesn't matter. if he raises and you fold, again the value of your hand doesn't matter. you rarely see the turn without being all-in, so equity only matters if you're 3-betting him and getting all-in. so it makes sense to bet the top of your range and the bottom of your range. the best hands that can get all-in (and usually a wider range, including more top pair hands since he can raise worse) and your valueless hands that you don't mind folding to a raise. when you have something like 2nd pair or a pocket pair under top pair, you're better off playing passively and picking off bluffs, to avoid walking into a big pot.
thanks for the love in this thread. i'm glad you liked.
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kflo
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Josh, again I very much like the video. I like have been digging the "factors" approach.
Question about double-barreling, and perhaps you can do a section on double barreling in a future video. "Hand Readers" did it, but it didn't quite satisfy me...
You talk about in one spot either betting 0 or 2 times against certain players as a possible way to exploit them (with air/semi-bluffs).
My struggle is this: Finding the right player types to double barrel. Certainly we can do better than waiting for "fold to turn c-bet" to converge over a large enough sample, right? What kinds of (early) clues can we look for to let us know? What textures are better for double barreling than others? Often you hear in videos "OK, a deuce came on the turn, so nothing has changed and whatever he called with on the flop, he'll keep calling". The board might be something like K562 two tone.
Then on a similarly textured flop in a different video, the pro says, "Clearly we can barrel him a lot here because he peeled the flop with A high, 5x, 6x, 77, 88, and we can make him fold all that." He's assessed the player in just a few hand (within the first 15 minutes of the video with minimal stats) and somehow magically determined that he is a good candidate for barreling.
I find my double barreling works best against regulars on Axx rainbow boards when the peel once with their pocket pairs. But I see the pros barreling even loose-passives in spots I wouldn't consider. The only other barrels I really exercise are the scare card turns. Seems like I should be able to do better than bottom feeding from regs and scare cards.
Some insight into how to think about approaching double barreling would be awesome...
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Trillos
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elcholodeamor
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