alexhandros
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Time Link to 00:21:53
You say if your opponent had 3bet you on the A76, you would have 4bet because he never has anything given his tendencies. Don't you get more money in the pot by flatting the 3bet and check/raising the turn? Or do you feel he's gonna 3bet something goofy and then take a free one on the turn
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OnTheRail15
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Time Link to 00:33:32
Mike,
Let me preface this by saying that I think this is the perfect spot to not cap. I take issue with the statement "I cap all kinds of stuff in this spot". I hear this kind of phrasing all the time in spots where your ranges plus your opponent's ranges just don't merit it. Given the two villains involved here and your own very tight range, it would be ridiculous for you to cap anything but the strongest parts of your range, which is why I think you should give up a bit of value preflop in order to disguise your hand for later.
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jesse8888
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Time Link to 00:39:51
What about raise/folding the river, basically taking advantage of the same thing you did in the A9 hand (live players don't raise the river without the nuts)? It sounds ridiculous I know, but if you don't want 3 bets to go in so strongly that you check the turn, it could be a viable option.
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jesse8888
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Time Link to 00:50:50
I think calling here would be pretty bad. Didn't Mike put seat 1 on AQ, AK, and like 88-JJ? She's not folding any of those hands even for 2 bets here and you beat all but exactly 3 combos of 99, so isn't this a great spot to get fast value for your hand with like 95% equity against her range?
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DeathDonkey
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What about raise/folding the river, basically taking advantage of the same thing you did in the A9 hand (live players don't raise the river without the nuts)? It sounds ridiculous I know, but if you don't want 3 bets to go in so strongly that you check the turn, it could be a viable option.
Shrug that whole hand was weird to me. I think you'll see that throughout this series, Mike remembers odd hands more often than boring standard hands so we have to tolerate some strangeness

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DeathDonkey
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I think calling here would be pretty bad. Didn't Mike put seat 1 on AQ, AK, and like 88-JJ? She's not folding any of those hands even for 2 bets here and you beat all but exactly 3 combos of 99, so isn't this a great spot to get fast value for your hand with like 95% equity against her range?
I agree with you yeah
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Busting you
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this is so true about people who hit the flop instantly looking away. I catch myself doing it , so in the past i have tried to reverse level by staring when i have it and looking away when i miss etc. problem is that's easy to decipher as well , keeping our reactions consistent whether we miss or hit is ideal in order to not tip off the more coherent players at the table.
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mike l.
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You say if your opponent had 3bet you on the A76, you would have 4bet because he never has anything given his tendencies. Don't you get more money in the pot by flatting the 3bet and check/raising the turn? Or do you feel he's gonna 3bet something goofy and then take a free one on the turn
most live players three bet the flop and take a free card on the turn like it's going out of style. if you let them.
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mike l.
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mike l.
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What about raise/folding the river, basically taking advantage of the same thing you did in the A9 hand (live players don't raise the river without the nuts)? It sounds ridiculous I know, but if you don't want 3 bets to go in so strongly that you check the turn, it could be a viable option.
yes i think raise folding the river has a lot of merit in this spot.
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bellatrix
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Time Link to 00:27:05
This hand went all circular on me. From being very optimistic on the flop (with that strange read that opponent will 3bet any pp 88+) to extremely pessimistic on the river even discussing the merits of c/f. And I didn't think we were ever warranted to be so black and white pessimistic/optimistic.
Why not let "bet first, ask questions later" barrel off and play it classic WA/WB -> c/c, c/c, b/f?
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