Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Entity (Mid Stakes)

just a comment from the beginning of the video.......nice seat cuz that guy niceos is awful , I have alot of his money in my account lol.

I think Rob made an amazing work with this video. If ur not a poker nit like me you gonna need a huge cup of coffee to stay awake. But if you are you will probably be as stunned as I was. Definitely an episode for the poker gourmet .

I think Rob made an amazing work with this video. If ur not a poker nit like me you gonna need a huge cup of coffee to stay awake. But if you are you will probably be as stunned as I was. Definitely an episode for the poker gourmet .

Thanks Peter, I had a great time recording this episode. I'll try to get some links posted to the excel sheet you sent me and to Pokerazor stuff as I round up some free time.

Rob

12 minute mark: In the hand where the villian had a full boat with his 88 on a JAJ8Q board. Sushi had A6..What do you think of going for a CR if you were the villian in this situation on the river? Sushi didn't cap the betting preflop so he shouldn't ever have QQ or AA. If you chose to do this would you fold to a 3bet?

12 minute mark: In the hand where the villian had a full boat with his 88 on a JAJ8Q board. Sushi had A6..What do you think of going for a CR if you were the villian in this situation on the river? Sushi didn't cap the betting preflop so he shouldn't ever have QQ or AA. If you chose to do this would you fold to a 3bet?

vs Sushi specifically it's not bad, but there are a lot of players who will have TT or 99 here who will check it back, and a lot of players are good enough to be able to bet-fold with Ax no kicker here.

Rob

If ur not a poker nit like me you gonna need a huge cup of coffee to stay awake.

I think everyone is still sleeping.

Rob

K6 hand on k92 twotone flop around 30 minutes in, are you suggesting to have a checkraise or check fold strategy only for balance purposes? As your hand range when peeling this flop would be pretty transparant to an observant player?

I had some Space Toast and now I'm really really into this deep poker discussion XD

K6 hand on k92 twotone flop around 30 minutes in, are you suggesting to have a checkraise or check fold strategy only for balance purposes? As your hand range when peeling this flop would be pretty transparant to an observant player?

The main question was if sushi check-calls A8 twice, but checkraises QJ, QT, JT on the flop along with 9x, A2, etc. and checkraises Kx on the turn, then his range for check-calling two streets is Ax entirely, which is super unbalanced as he's intending on c/c, c/c, c/c. Given that, the next question to ask (that we were asking) is to figure out how to shift his flop/turn play in such a way that his river play is less easily exploited. I discussed this at a dinner last night with a bunch of 2+2 LHE players, and the thoughts were pretty good -- I think the general consensus was that we could strongly consider check-calling some 9x and bottom pair hands as well as occasional gutshots (say, c/c c/c with QJ but c/r with QT and JT, for example), and also checkraise with hands like T8 occasionally (bare bluffs that will have some outs when called down, but not when raised). We were about 2 bottles of wine per person into the discussion at that point, but overall I thought it was a pretty interesting discussion.

Rob

I have given this issue some thoughts as well. TBH whenever you c/c c/c your hand is almost always hand that have too much equity to fold, but also too little equity to raise. If you do anything else you are giving up value. Of course, this is not to say you wouldn't have some other hand(s) for deception purpose, but those are not going to be of high frequency otherwise you are burning too much value to justify the benefits.

This all adds up to say basically life sucks because we have a marginal hand OOP. There is no way to completely solves it, you can only make your life a little worse for your opponents. But you are still going to hate life when you have A8 in BB and flops comes K92 no matter what.

Therefore from a theoretical POV, your remedies should be:
1) Sightly strengthen your ccx3 range so that he can value bet you less. So calling with bottom pair/ middle pair weak kicker(with some frequency) for example. Not 3betting pf OOP completely is a similar concept and helps in that regard as well.

2) "Slowplay" more: Punish your villain when they cbet relentlessly. For example, you can c/c A9 with the intention of c/r the turn (There is a small problem with this plan as you will have a difficult turn decision if the turn is T/J/Q. But then your life isn't easier if you c/r the flop either). With a better flop texture you may be able to even cc cc cr.

3) Raise more liberally and bluff: If your villain is going to make thin value bets against your, raise him more! Say the turn is a offsuit 5 and river is a J and you have JT. You should strongly consider c/r river (notice calling with some draws sometimes on the flop help you hitting these).

To balance that you need to make a complete bluff occasionally so that I) he needs to call you more but also II) His 3bet has less value. Well what if your range is very SD-able? It doesn't really matter, the bottom of your range has very little equity anyways. You may end up making a sick vbluff with Ax when villain has QJ.....

Anyways, there is nothing really new here and as I said, holding a marginal hand OOP ALWAYS sucks. Don't apply 2) or 3) to a bad opponent because they are probably not vbetting you thinly, even 1) you need to be careful because if you raise your opponent may pay you off light anyways.

On top of all these, just how often I should be calling a river bet here is a big enough headache for me.......

Great post IPL! Ty!