fnupple
1117 posts
Joined 11/2007
Hey guys, title and episode description are wrong. (Assuming Sushi and OnTheRail haven't converted to maxbetting lately, this should be "Omakase LHE and "Sushi's first ever session playing HU LHE")
Anyway, really looking forward to this!
Oh and obv: First!
Posted over 3 years ago
Reply to Topic
Reply w/Quote
PygmyHero
4276 posts
Joined 08/2007
Joe Tall
6642 posts
Joined 11/2006
bluffindeuce
174 posts
Joined 06/2008
OnTheRail15
Coach
1373 posts
Joined 06/2008
Tightness is a strange thing in HULHE: preflop tightness doesn't translate to postflop straightforwardness. In fact it's often the opposite: people who are tight preflop often have pretty polarized ranges when they bet and raise postflop. This seemed to be the case with this villain and we had seen him get out of line on the flop before. An example I always use: let's say my hand is +2 on a 1-10 scale (only beats bluffs), I'd be much more likely to call if my opponents range is either a 10 or a 1 than if my opponent's range is +1,+2,+3,+4, +5, etc.
This is how good lags win. Their opponents beat bluffs, which they have in their range, so they call, but a good lag's range is so balanced with thin value that calling when you can only beat a bluff is often a mistake.
That being said in the hand in question perhaps you're right that villain's range is still too strong to justify a cd, we aren't crushed always here though as these players (all players really) tend to get out of line on A high flops, and we've seen him fight back in these spots before.
Posted over 3 years ago
Reply to Topic
Reply w/Quote
HLS2k6
699 posts
Joined 11/2007
I enjoyed this video alot. The discussion of difficult 'what if' contingencies on otherwise straightforward hands is especially helpful.
Really liked the discussion on the turn raise with Qx9h on the flush/wheel board. One thing I've noticed is that, like seemed to happen here, I tend to make these plays particularly when I feel like I'm getting run over and am anxious to turn the momentum around. Def gotta work on incorporating it into my overall game at other, perhaps better, times.
Posted over 3 years ago
Reply to Topic
Reply w/Quote
KCStrom
442 posts
Joined 02/2007
About 20 minutes in we defend K7o and get a JT7r flop and you mention that this would be a good spot to C/R vs. showdown bound opponents. Given the board, I'm not even sure our equity is all that great, and we're going to be facing a whole lot of crappy turns that will either cripple our hand, or kill our action.
More importantly, how does a flop C/R w/ BP effect our C/C range? I can't think of many hands we're C/Cing down, which can't be good thing.
Posted over 3 years ago
Reply to Topic
Reply w/Quote
sushiglutton
2752 posts
Joined 11/2007
More importantly, how does a flop C/R w/ BP effect our C/C range? I can't think of many hands we're C/Cing down, which can't be good thing.
This is a very interesting topic. U are saying that weshould always have a reasonbly wide XC-3 streets range? Is that to protect our peels?
Posted over 3 years ago
Reply to Topic
Reply w/Quote
DeathDonkey
5229 posts
Joined 11/2006
This is a very interesting topic. U are saying that weshould always have a reasonbly wide XC-3 streets range? Is that to protect our peels?
Might not have to be wide but here he's saying if we don't xc bottom pair then we only have ace highs left and its not really a great board texture to call down ace high, so we might not have any range to xc that isn't folding turn unimproved. I think he's right.
Posted over 3 years ago
Reply to Topic
Reply w/Quote
OnTheRail15
Coach
1373 posts
Joined 06/2008
About 20 minutes in we defend K7o and get a JT7r flop and you mention that this would be a good spot to C/R vs. showdown bound opponents. Given the board, I'm not even sure our equity is all that great, and we're going to be facing a whole lot of crappy turns that will either cripple our hand, or kill our action.
More importantly, how does a flop C/R w/ BP effect our C/C range? I can't think of many hands we're C/Cing down, which can't be good thing.
hm... I'd generally c/c with worse sevens against someone very sd bound, but maybe c/c with all sevens is better. There is a balance to be struck on these board textures between c/r marginal hands, which you have to do on draw heavy boards, and maintaining a balnced c/c range on the flop.
Posted over 3 years ago
Reply to Topic
Reply w/Quote
PygmyHero
4276 posts
Joined 08/2007