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GMandatory takes on our own Vanessa Selbst on two tables of $2/4 HU NLHE. He reviews his play after the fact and enlightens you to his thought processes and his analysis of Vanessa's play.
Gman’s debut heads up NL series. In each episode Garret will play a DC Executive Producer heads up. The catch? The EP must play according to certain restrictions designed to mimic player types. Featuring in-depth discussion on developing optimal counter-strategies vs obvious leaks, as well as high-level psychology and leveling. Can the EPs escape their straitjackets, or will Gman dominate?
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dude: fslexcduck; something like: physlexic-duck not felix-duck ![]()
Yes! Made my day
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the vid is not loading for me anyone else having this problem?
edit: works now
This series is one of the most interesting ever put out on DC and I love that the rules aren't know ahead if time now. It creates such a great dynamic and Gman's commentary is superb.
looks good, thanks!
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Excellent commentary Gman.
However i can't help but feel that these rules are something of a distraction, and that it would be more interesting to simply see you playing against each-other. possibly separate videos from each of you would be an option.
Excellent video and the best one in this series so far :-)
Great play from both of you and an excellent commentary.
Btw. please, please do not post any of the rules here in the forum, it was so much fun to watch the video and try to figure them out.
Hey Garret,
thanks for all the kind words about my play! I really did have a lot of fun playing this and I wish I had more time because once I figured out how to play more optimally, the match was over!
I had a few general comments - I think the rules actually influenced my play more than you think. I fired a looooot fewer double barrels than I normally would, because I had to bluff the river and you seemed to not like to fold that much (that was my impression anyways), so I didn't want to bluff the pot and set myself up for an expensive -EV play. I wish I could have checked more flops to fully balance for the strategy of not 2nd barreling too much, but unfortunately the rules didn't allow me to do that.
I think not playing buttons has more of an effect than you think - you wind up 3betting way less, if really at all, and it just creates a much different dynamic than we're necessarily used to. I don't know who it's better for necessarily in general, but personally, I love defending light 3bettors in position, and I didn't get a chance to do it that much.
Finally, the idea about flatting all of my hands out of position - I think you did a great job of explaining some of the reasons, but I wanted to expound a little bit. Basically, I didn't stop because I was afraid you wouldn't call necessarily. I just thought that a) it would be super easy to realize I only showed up with strong hands after 3 betting and I wouldn't get paid off, b) it would make my calling OOP range very unbalanced b/c instead of all medium strength hands I would only have low and medium strength hands (and once again I thought it would be fairly easy to pick up on this), and c) I didn't want to bloat the pot OOP because of the rule where I had to bluff the river... so if I 3bet with KQ and the flop came A34r, I had to cbet and bet the river, which means I was committing my entire stack in a situation in which you are really rarely going to fold. There is an argument that you might get leveled the first time and make a big fold since "I shouldn't be bluffing," but even if that were the case (which I doubt and still think that line would be hugely -EV), if you figured out it was a rule, I would really really be screwed.
Anyway, great analysis. You definitely definitely outleveled me in many spots and I'm really looking forward to playing again.
<3
Duck (Pronounced "fyslexic duck" ;-) )
Excellent video and the best one in this series so far :-)
Great play from both of you and an excellent commentary.
Btw. please, please do not post any of the rules here in the forum, it was so much fun to watch the video and try to figure them out.
I agree. In all videos including this one I will include the rules at the end of the audio (don't cheat)!
Hey Garret,
thanks for all the kind words about my play! I really did have a lot of fun playing this and I wish I had more time because once I figured out how to play more optimally, the match was over!
I had a few general comments - I think the rules actually influenced my play more than you think. I fired a looooot fewer double barrels than I normally would, because I had to bluff the river and you seemed to not like to fold that much (that was my impression anyways), so I didn't want to bluff the pot and set myself up for an expensive -EV play. I wish I could have checked more flops to fully balance for the strategy of not 2nd barreling too much, but unfortunately the rules didn't allow me to do that.
I think not playing buttons has more of an effect than you think - you wind up 3betting way less, if really at all, and it just creates a much different dynamic than we're necessarily used to. I don't know who it's better for necessarily in general, but personally, I love defending light 3bettors in position, and I didn't get a chance to do it that much.
Finally, the idea about flatting all of my hands out of position - I think you did a great job of explaining some of the reasons, but I wanted to expound a little bit. Basically, I didn't stop because I was afraid you wouldn't call necessarily. I just thought that a) it would be super easy to realize I only showed up with strong hands after 3 betting and I wouldn't get paid off, b) it would make my calling OOP range very unbalanced b/c instead of all medium strength hands I would only have low and medium strength hands (and once again I thought it would be fairly easy to pick up on this), and c) I didn't want to bloat the pot OOP because of the rule where I had to bluff the river... so if I 3bet with KQ and the flop came A34r, I had to cbet and bet the river, which means I was committing my entire stack in a situation in which you are really rarely going to fold. There is an argument that you might get leveled the first time and make a big fold since "I shouldn't be bluffing," but even if that were the case (which I doubt and still think that line would be hugely -EV), if you figured out it was a rule, I would really really be screwed.
Anyway, great analysis. You definitely definitely outleveled me in many spots and I'm really looking forward to playing again.
<3
Duck (Pronounced "fyslexic duck" ;-) )
Not much to add, agree w/ all of this. I really appreciate you taking the time to consider all of this before/during the match. It made my life much more difficult, thus making for a more interesting video.
Vanessa did you bluff the board 6QQ6Q on the river because of the rules or because you think it is a +EV bluff?
Gman says you have complete immunity for pushing the river, but this bluff should work 2 out of 3 times. Gman doesnt have the board beat really often but I assume he will call with 77+ Qx.
By giving up the river, you share the pot quite often, So i guess its not so bad to give up. Or do you think its a mandatory bluff since your value range is wide as well?
Very interesting hand !
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