Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DosXX (High Stakes)

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Time Link to 00:05:26

I would fold the turn here against this guy. If he was betting his whole range on the turn the call would be thin at best. Unfortunately, he should be checking the hands we have beat. you could have some RIO if a 9 or a T hits.

I like it,good video.

Time Link to 00:15:30

Not sure how i like this bet on the right table. Your never getting folds around with the blinds beeing who they are, and with the button beeing a passive player he might check behind giving you a shot to hit a pair which will be pretty strong on this board.

Time Link to 00:19:46

Too thin of a spot for a turn raise with the 44? Chessnok shows down very light and its not really a board he would 3bet semibluff the turn with that often.

Time Link to 00:36:42

Id just fold the turn. He`s been somewhat passive (exept that 23s hand), he raised utg, this board smashes his range and you have a real bad RIO hand, and the pot is tiny.

Time Link to 00:50:33

Again i think this is a fold. Fair enough youre hoping chicken to have JQ type stuff, but he can as easy have AQ which he wouldnt fold for 1 bet on the flop. And after IcanHold9Donuts checkraises the flop, bet-calls the turn and calls in front of you on the river i think you should save one bet, and fold. Do you really think he will call with 10x with you behind who raised him on the turn?

Time Link to 00:14:34

Yo Phil Dawg,

Whats the top of your turn checking back range here? Would you check back 4x or even 5x ever? AJ? Just curioso.

Time Link to 00:05:21

You call turn and say you'll fold if an A or K hit on the river. We're really only beating an under pair here already (I think any A's or K's he 4-bets preflop already have us crushed). An A or K doesn't change that. There is some chance he is betting the turn with his underpair. I guess you're saying that he bets some turns with underpairs but never bets the river if an A or K hits the river? Do you have a value bet if an A or K rivers and he checks?

I would fold the turn here against this guy. If he was betting his whole range on the turn the call would be thin at best. Unfortunately, he should be checking the hands we have beat. you could have some RIO if a 9 or a T hits.

I'm assuming you mean the T8s hand where it gets capped preflop?

If so, I think the turn call is close, but correct. He's an unknown fish, so I'm not sure we can "trust" his action, meaning I fully endorse the idea this guy could have 66 or something like that. We have some RIO if a 9 or T, but we can also make a straight and get paid off. Just think we have too much equity in this spot.

Not sure how i like this bet on the right table. Your never getting folds around with the blinds beeing who they are, and with the button beeing a passive player he might check behind giving you a shot to hit a pair which will be pretty strong on this board.

Certainly its close? I think with a spade we should bet definitely, would you agree? The reason I bet is because I rarely think (contrary to the actual action) that we get raised on this board. So I'm mainly hoping a bet lets me see the river for 1/2 bet which I think is more valuable than seeing the turn (maybe - depending on button - but you could also say this for betting) for free.

I don't really mind the blinds never folding, because I'm doing fine equity wise against their preflop range with my hand so bets don't go in very poorly when even everyone calls.

Too thin of a spot for a turn raise with the 44? Chessnok shows down very light and its not really a board he would 3bet semibluff the turn with that often.

Agree with you on point 2 but maybe not on point 1. In my experience he doesn't showdown super light. But maybe I haven't played with him enough or he plays me different. I totally agree, if someone shows down a lot I like the turn for value. It also depends how they play say a medium Ax, are they more likely to bet for value or check and induce bluffs?

Id just fold the turn. He`s been somewhat passive (exept that 23s hand), he raised utg, this board smashes his range and you have a real bad RIO hand, and the pot is tiny.

I think I agree on retrospect. Tough spot against a laggy guy with a very very marginal hand and a very very marginal draw. But, small pot I think we can fold.

Again i think this is a fold. Fair enough youre hoping chicken to have JQ type stuff, but he can as easy have AQ which he wouldnt fold for 1 bet on the flop. And after IcanHold9Donuts checkraises the flop, bet-calls the turn and calls in front of you on the river i think you should save one bet, and fold. Do you really think he will call with 10x with you behind who raised him on the turn?

I'm debating this spot and haven't done any math yet. I think you make a very strong argument which has very good merits. Then, I think laggy guy who can be overplaying a worse hand + thinking player who likes to showdown who doesn't always have to have my hand beat. It's really that last portion that is key, i.e. what is Ich9's range to call the river?

I'll try and get the bat signal out for OTR or DD or anyone else to give some solid input. I guess I'm not comfortable saying either way is the "right play," and could easily be convinced by a strong argument either way.

Yo Phil Dawg,

Whats the top of your turn checking back range here? Would you check back 4x or even 5x ever? AJ? Just curioso.

JUICE whatup, I think I would be betting wide for value, because TLW doesn't like to fold. When I don't get c/r on the flop, I take most of his pair range out of the equation. Since a lot of tens get folded on the flop, I think AJ is definitely a value bet as well as AT and A9, so I guess I draw the line around A8. TLW has a ton of hands he is peeling and isnt going to mindlessly bluff river, so I like a bet on the turn with strong ace highs.

You call turn and say you'll fold if an A or K hit on the river. We're really only beating an under pair here already (I think any A's or K's he 4-bets preflop already have us crushed). An A or K doesn't change that. There is some chance he is betting the turn with his underpair. I guess you're saying that he bets some turns with underpairs but never bets the river if an A or K hits the river? Do you have a value bet if an A or K rivers and he checks?

Good question, check out my response to psychobingo's question above on the same hand as well. I do think it's premature to assume he doesn't bet all pairs on the turn. I do think he can also bet Ax as well. There are a significant amount of fish who have the initiative with a strong preflop hand but poor relative hand on the board texture who continue firing. This is basically the type of player I'm hoping for. I don't think a player with an underpair will bet an A or K river because at that point, they know their bet has no value (vs. the turn where it could conceivably have value) and would be a bluff, and I would suspect most wouldn't turn their hand into a bluff.

All of this is based on a stereotype of a general "fish" that is only based on a very few hands and a general philosophy of trying to show down pairs in BvB inflated pots.

Certainly its close? I think with a spade we should bet definitely, would you agree? The reason I bet is because I rarely think (contrary to the actual action) that we get raised on this board. So I'm mainly hoping a bet lets me see the river for 1/2 bet which I think is more valuable than seeing the turn (maybe - depending on button - but you could also say this for betting) for free.

I don't really mind the blinds never folding, because I'm doing fine equity wise against their preflop range with my hand so bets don't go in very poorly when even everyone calls.

Yes it is close and i wouldnt mind betting at all with one spade on the flop. But its pretty likely knowing tuan and chessnok that they would always fastplay hearts or pretty much any straightdraw on this board hoping that you fold out overs, and given that the button is most likely passive since he coldcalled the button pf i think i would check and hope that i got checked around.

Agree with you on point 2 but maybe not on point 1. In my experience he doesn't showdown super light. But maybe I haven't played with him enough or he plays me different. I totally agree, if someone shows down a lot I like the turn for value. It also depends how they play say a medium Ax, are they more likely to bet for value or check and induce bluffs?

Well i guess we have a different dynamic because i find him to be very showdown bound in spots just like this. And i think he is the kind of player who will just mindlessly bet KJ/KQ here three times as well, which makes the call okay i guess? But in my experience he bet-calls down every ace high on this turn, and we beat almost all of them. Board is such that we cant get counterfeited on the river, which is also very good for us.

I'm debating this spot and haven't done any math yet. I think you make a very strong argument which has very good merits. Then, I think laggy guy who can be overplaying a worse hand + thinking player who likes to showdown who doesn't always have to have my hand beat. It's really that last portion that is key, i.e. what is Ich9's range to call the river?

I'll try and get the bat signal out for OTR or DD or anyone else to give some solid input. I guess I'm not comfortable saying either way is the "right play," and could easily be convinced by a strong argument either way.

Well i think when he coldcalls 2 from the sb and raises the flop he can have a ton of broadways and some pp right. When he bet-calls the turn we can narrow his range down to two pair or pair + straightdraw, i dont think he has many sets in his range given the board was so highcard heavy, but if he did have a set i think he`d 3bet them a very high % of the time. When he calls the river i dont think he has very many one pair hands, because i think hes worried that you have Qx or better behind him because you capped preflop and bet-called-raised the turn on a 910x Q board which makes your hand very likely to be just KQ/AQ, and if hes thinking somewhat close to that, he should be folding all worse hands, which should make us wanna fold just one pair here. I mean i know the pot is huge and we can beat some hands, but 3way i think were just burning monies when we click call here.

Again i think this is a fold. Fair enough youre hoping chicken to have JQ type stuff, but he can as easy have AQ which he wouldnt fold for 1 bet on the flop. And after IcanHold9Donuts checkraises the flop, bet-calls the turn and calls in front of you on the river i think you should save one bet, and fold. Do you really think he will call with 10x with you behind who raised him on the turn?

Obviously he can "just as easily have AQ" .. good thing were getting better than 1:1 on a call... were actually getting 21:1 on a call so I think its not a matter of what he can easily have, its what he might have once out of 21 times.

Time Link to 00:52:25

Can we consider just giving up when raised on this flop? Playing around with it, I compute that button has an ace > 80% of the time and the times when he is on a draw, our average equity is only about 50% anyway. This is ignoring that cutoff is still in the hand as well and could potentially have us in a bad way.

Obviously he can "just as easily have AQ" .. good thing were getting better than 1:1 on a call... were actually getting 21:1 on a call so I think its not a matter of what he can easily have, its what he might have once out of 21 times.

But its 3 handed on the river in a huge pot and we have a relatively mediocre/weak hand according to all the action that has gone in. Feel like im harping the same thing over and over, and nobody wants to agree, so ill stop.