Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DosXX (High Stakes)

Time Link to 00:04:13

What are your thoughts calling a river bet when at best we're chopping? Against a fish? Against a solid player?

What are your thoughts calling a river bet when at best we're chopping? Against a fish? Against a solid player?

You are talking about the hand where the board ran out 6798T right?

I think against both player types you should call because when you check it's very unlikely for you to have a J, so their bet is sort of a freeroll. Of course it's not that simple, but I do think you should probably be calling.

Time Link to 00:29:47

I just joined the site ( actually still the free trial ) and the first video I have a look at I find this :
calling a cap with J7o ? This has to be a joke .
I'd appreciate any light here !!

Ummm...huh. I can't seem to watch this video past 33.31...it just stops there and sticks. I can't jump it forward or back at that point. Tried opening other videos and they all play fine.

Has anyone else had that problem with this?

I just joined the site ( actually still the free trial ) and the first video I have a look at I find this :
calling a cap with J7o ? This has to be a joke .
I'd appreciate any light here !!

Hello and welcome wascom! It's good to see you in here asking questions. The simple answer is that you should not be folding very much here, because you need just over 20% equity to make the call. With close hands, I would lean towards folding hands like A3o and K7o because they are going to be harder to play postflop, than say a hand like 78o. J7o is somewhere in that awkward middle range. Finally, you are also going to induce lighter coldcapping against you if you continually fold more often than you should, which is a disaster.

I stoved this hand and it actually has less equity than I originally believed:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 18.557% 18.19% 00.37% 3785704730 76679345.50 { Jh7c }
Hand 1: 32.654% 31.21% 01.45% 6494912283 301444430.00 { 66+, A5s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+ }
Hand 2: 48.789% 47.46% 01.33% 9878967922 275820025.50 { 88+, ATs+, KJs+, AQo+ }


These results probably indicate a fold, especially since the 4 bettor's range may actually be slightly tighter. It looks like J9o is the spot that gives us plus 20% equity. FWIW, I stoved A3o and it was very similar to J9o equity wise, but I would fold A3o and call J9o for the reasons above.

So, had I known my exact equity at the time would be about 18%, I would probably fold.

Time Link to 00:38:25

Could you discuss you reasoning for I'm assuming a raise ATC strategy BB vs SB open limp. I have my opinions, but I'm interested your reasoning for doing so. I think you planned on doing this in the video, then just forgot about it.

Time Link to 00:42:20

I thought this was closer to value raise (on the turn) than a crying
call down. How wide of a range were you thinking kauper could have in this spot? Do you think he Checks some AT/AJ type hands because I can certainly see that swaying our decision to just call down?

Could you discuss you reasoning for I'm assuming a raise ATC strategy BB vs SB open limp. I have my opinions, but I'm interested your reasoning for doing so. I think you planned on doing this in the video, then just forgot about it.

Heh, yeah I totally forgot didn't I?

The reasoning is that these players are generally limping a weak range and will c/fold often enough preflop combined with our equity to make immediately raising an attractive option. You have to be careful, because even most fish will adjust after it happens 1 or 2 times and start playing differently, but some won't and then you just don't ever get up

I thought this was closer to value raise (on the turn) than a crying
call down. How wide of a range were you thinking kauper could have in this spot? Do you think he Checks some AT/AJ type hands because I can certainly see that swaying our decision to just call down?

I don't see him having many worse hands, because I think his 3 betting range is mostly for value, and, like you suspect, I also think he checks a lot of his Ace high no pair type hands.

Time Link to 00:06:36

Right hand table. Is it ok to think about check-calling turn and river here against this opponent?

Time Link to 00:18:10

Table on the right: Why not call the turn? With an AK2 flop, there he might even fold a mid pocket pair when we raise the flop. We can consider raising the river after having called the turn.

REPLY TO DOSXX

Hi and thanks for your time .

I see the reasoning behind calling with J9o,78o rather than with A3o and K7o as more often than not we are severely dominated . My point was to emphasize the fact of willing to call a cap with J7o , which is far from being close to J9 , maybe not in terms of equity (-2% ) but certainly in terms of playability as we have no str8 , no flush potential and playing just for card strength we would need at least to make a two pair hand to have a chance , which is a very long long shot , far from close to a 20%.
IMO your assigned capping range is far to light for a tighty player ( 99+,AJs+,KQs,AQo+ probabbly more adequate ) making things much worse .

At first sight my thought was like " what the hell ? " as it seemed to me a very obvious intuitive dump , and while playing , you made no further fuss about it as if it was a common/natural play .

Finally I would like to mention that I hate to fold to a cap as much as you do but sometimes we just have to do it when it is the obvious right play : that not means that folding becomes exploitable in any way and they would start to take advantage of it.

Thanks for clarifying , I appreciate it .

Time Link to 00:35:38

What is the reasoning for your cap here and what other type hands would you be capping? Kx,Qx etc.

I would cap 88 or 99s here but 55s seems a bit loose unless you have a read these two can be run over.

Table on the right: Why not call the turn? With an AK2 flop, there he might even fold a mid pocket pair when we raise the turn. We can consider raising the river after having called the turn.

Fixed my post.

Right hand table. Is it ok to think about check-calling turn and river here against this opponent?

I think while he is laggy, without a read that my opponent is very inducible in spots where I'm obviously calling down, we miss too much value against his weak showdownable range. He is also never folding a gutshot type hand on the turn, but might check it back.

Table on the right: Why not call the turn? With an AK2 flop, there he might even fold a mid pocket pair when we raise the flop. We can consider raising the river after having called the turn.

Calling turn/raising river is ok, but I think we lose value to hands that make a pair/small flush and check it on the river. Even a weak king may check/call the river, same as queen high type hands if the river is a brick. All those hands will gladly put in 3 bets on the turn/river, but calling the turn often means they will only have to out in 2 bets.

I just don't think the positives of waiting for the river (getting complete bluffs without a diamond to bet again) outweigh the positives above of raising the turn.

What is the reasoning for your cap here and what other type hands would you be capping? Kx,Qx etc.

I would cap 88 or 99s here but 55s seems a bit loose unless you have a read these two can be run over.

I would be capping things like KQ and KTs and ATo/ATs, basically, I'm going for mostly value against their 2 ranges (which I think Kauperwood's is fairly well defined). I'm also adding in hands like JTs, 89s, 78s, and some one gappers too, depending on my image. Hands which probably don't have an equity edge, but stand to improve greatly by the ability to take a free card on the flop or turn and don't have terribly equity.

Bumping for EP3

Time Link to 00:23:40

I think this vbet is pretty thin on the river with K6o though I don't mind it given how people like to call.
I think it depends basically on if you think he will call the river with the bottom end of his Khighs like K4/5/7.
Also his BB V Steal play probably comes into it as if he doesn't ever 3b on the BB he should have some more big A's in his flop + turn calling range.
All in all it's probably a good thin vbet, I'm pretty sure I'd miss it.