Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by sthief09 (Mid Stakes)

It's sad that I've been sitting here refreshing my page for the last 30 minutes to figure out who the coach would be, lol.

nice vid, though I'm not finding the series to be as interesting as I expected

mostly because most discussions center around optimal play in standard spots which simply isn't that interesting when you have a competent player like Hielko who doesn't make a lot of big errors in these type of situations

I think you should have either selected a less competent player or should have focused the series more on creative and unconventional play to get the most out of coach and player, which would have made the educational value for the viewer a lot higher (even though that might not have been the main objective of the series, I dunno, just saying)

can't wait for the Krantz vid though!

Yea I agree 100% with gring000h.
Nice vid and all, etc, but Hielko seemed like he had almost nothing to learn from this, he plays very goot Maybe we also got a bit unlucky and didn't encounter too many tough spots...
Oh and I prefer real-time coaching more than post-vid analysis, it gives more things to consider imo, like game dynamics, timing-tells, etc.

I agree with gring000h aswell. Take a NL25 player or something through all the coaches and you'll have a great series...but seeing as Hielko is so competent, it's just not really that great as it could have been.

11:45ish- When you guys are talking about the AK hand on table 4, Josh says that against tight 3bettors he likes to calls sometimes and then shove over cbets on low rainbow/paired boards. I'm probably missing something, but this doesn't really make sense to me. If his range is so tight that we can't felt AK preflop then we're saying that it consists of pretty much just big pairs, so why would we want to shove over his cbet?

fwiw I think this series is sweet

11:45ish- When you guys are talking about the AK hand on table 4, Josh says that against tight 3bettors he likes to calls sometimes and then shove over cbets on low rainbow/paired boards. I'm probably missing something, but this doesn't really make sense to me. If his range is so tight that we can't felt AK preflop then we're saying that it consists of pretty much just big pairs, so why would we want to shove over his cbet?

well first off, this comes up for me maybe once out of every 10k or 20k hands, so I'm talking about a very specific situation. I think we're in agreement, and that's why Hielko and I agreed that fold is correct in this spot. calling doesn't do us much good, because we're still going to be in bad shape on a low, dry flop. but if his range was a little bit wider, something like AA-JJ, AK-AQ, AJ, sometimes KQ, and some suited hands, then there is some merit to seeing how the flop comes out first. I'd usually still 4-bet vs. a range like that, but think about the flop situation if we call, even though you forgo your chance to take it down preflop.

if he has AA-QQ, it's no big deal because you were otherwise going to 4-bet/call your stack off anyway. if he has AJ/KQ and the flop comes low, you're still committed to stacking off, and AJ/KQ probably c-bet, so you've gotten 1/3 of his stack without letting him get to showdown. if you both flop pairs, you're going to get a lot of his money. sometimes he outflops you, but i would not stack off on Q- or J-high flops anyway, so i'm not giving those hands much action anyway. tactically, that's a huge advantage vs. these hands even though you forgo your chance to make them fold preflop.

there are 2 main arguments I can think of against calling. 1 is that when you flop a pair, it's going to be obvious. that's not really true. if you're a regular, another regular will not put you on AK here. if you flop an A and he has QQ, you don't stack him usually but you'll get some money in. if it comes K high, QQ and JJ will still sometimes stack off. plus sometimes you flop an A, and he has AQ or AJ, and you stack him. so i don't think collecting value when you flop big is a valid argument.

the #2 argument is that you don't flop enough big hands. this is true. you flop a pair about 1/3, and I'm pushing if i flop a flush draw on a monotone flop, or a gutter, so something like 40% of the time i've flopped something i consider to be big. and i'm probably pushing/calling 75% of the remaining flops, so i'm not folding very many flops.

but like i said originally, this hardly ever comes up for me. i just wanted to open the viewers' eyes to the idea that you can occasionally call AKo, and that it doesn't require folding every flop where you don't pair up. this is often my strategy for AQ though, since that's a hand i'm not usually thrilled 4-bet/calling off with, but frequently flops good enough equity to push over a c-bet.

cool that makes sense, I guess I just sort of misunderstood

the KT hand, on the river you were getting 5:1, not 6:1

really nice vid btw, enjoyed it.

Personally I dont think a nl 25 player getting coached by the EP and bigs coaches is gonna be something that worth it. ( I mean why a nl 25 player would get coached by a mid-high stake coach ?

My opinion imo

In the QT hand with 2par vs the fish. If he has QJ he has got 14 outs on the river, just nitpicking