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Crossfire: Episode One

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Crossfire: Episode One by MagicNinja

MagicNinja and his magical PLO videos return as he debuts with a 2-tabling session at $3/6 PLO.

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MagicNinja presents a series of mid-stakes PLO videos, intending to analyze both solid fundamentals and the subjective/emotional aspects of play. You'll get caught up in it!

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  • Game: plo
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 59 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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Noah.

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First vid of his I've watched. Love his style, can't wait for the rest!

Posted over 2 years ago

random1

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Time Link to 00:32:08

are there any club rivers that you would value bet in this spot(other than board pairs) in the 7744 hand. or do you think its too thin?

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Enso

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Time Link to 00:21:59

If the river bricked (say an offsuit 5) would you be bluffing to make him fold overpairs as you don't have many bluffs in your range?

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bamyeah3

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awesome video, very insightfull..can't wait for more

Posted over 2 years ago

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limitpoker1

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I like that you played some hu and shourthanded.if you dont play at the bigger sites,it happens quite often,that you have to play hu or shourthanded to get some games going.

Posted over 2 years ago

delcrossb

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You'll get caught up in the...

CROSSFIYAAAH.

HUUUUH!

Posted over 2 years ago

vanHelsing

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Time Link to 00:28:18

We just turned a 17-wrap, so we could call a raise, right?

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 3Heart8ClubjDiamondaSpade
9sqdtd5d 40.16% (239,646 wins, 2,685 ties)
aa** 59.84% (357,669 wins, 2,685 ties)

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orestto

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Time Link to 00:22:01

What about leading the turn here on the 7d, repping 9T. You can barrel some brick rivers, and you can't really x/call the turn anyway. He basically has to have a flush draw to semi-bluff raise here.

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MagicNinja

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What about leading the turn here on the 7d, repping 9T. You can barrel some brick rivers, and you can't really x/call the turn anyway. He basically has to have a flush draw to semi-bluff raise here.



yea this play is probably strong, also leading jacks up in that spot would be reasonable. i don't think much of his reraising range can call a lead there even if he thinks you're full of it (what's he going to do with aces or kings really?).

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MagicNinja

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We just turned a 17-wrap, so we could call a raise, right?

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 3Heart8ClubjDiamondaSpade
9sqdtd5d 40.16% (239,646 wins, 2,685 ties)
aa** 59.84% (357,669 wins, 2,685 ties)



yea my bad.

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MagicNinja

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If the river bricked (say an offsuit 5) would you be bluffing to make him fold overpairs as you don't have many bluffs in your range?



actually there are a lot of 'bluffs' in my range there i think, 789 89Q, 879, QT8 style hands.

you might bluff with those hands against a player you saw as not knowing your true range etc but many people will think you are trying to get them to fold an overpair with your combo draw and call. but yes, a bluff would be reasonable. as someone mentioned below, really i should have bet the turn in this hand, i think thats a pretty strong move.

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MagicNinja

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are there any club rivers that you would value bet in this spot(other than board pairs) in the 7744 hand. or do you think its too thin?



i think the 6c is as good a card as possible. i did consider betting again on the river (the logic being that he'd lead a flush on the river 100% of the time and i beat everything else) but i figured the probability of getting called by worse (EG KK9T) was lower than the probability he checked a flush rather than lead it.

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This video made my week. Your vids are so good its sick!! please make this a long series!!!

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Just watched the intro and thought yay HU PLO Frown

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Nice video.

I wonder though, why is reraising with 7744 good? Obviously its deep with position and with passive and presumably weaker player, but still are we even ever able to get it in good with 7744? Or the main profit here comes from us taking down middle sized pots without a showdown?(that still forces us to make lots of bluffs without eqity(7744) which at first doesnt sound like a good idea imo). Can you please explain?

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Nice video.

I wonder though, why is reraising with 7744 good? Obviously its deep with position and with passive and presumably weaker player, but still are we even ever able to get it in good with 7744? Or the main profit here comes from us taking down middle sized pots without a showdown?(that still forces us to make lots of bluffs without eqity(7744) which at first doesnt sound like a good idea imo). Can you please explain?



Basically deception value of having a set on a 7xx or 4xx board in a 3-bet pot with position where you can barrel pretty widely otherwise. It's not the best hand in the world but adding it to your arsenal doesn't really hurt in terms of 3-betting in position because it's very hard to counter with deep stack-sizes.

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Time Link to 00:49:04

In this spot you are in BB with 8d9h8s10d

Its raised up pre and called in 2 other spots and you call along.

Flop Js4c7d - you bet to take it down FTA and get raised and re-raised and fold - This seems a good spot to a micro player like myself and potentially a leak in my game as you almost auto mucked - can you explain your thought process here??

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MagicNinja

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In this spot you are in BB with 8d9h8s10d

Its raised up pre and called in 2 other spots and you call along.

Flop Js4c7d - you bet to take it down FTA and get raised and re-raised and fold - This seems a good spot to a micro player like myself and potentially a leak in my game as you almost auto mucked - can you explain your thought process here??



its never going to be a good spot since one of them almost certainly has JJ which makes your equity about 33% at best (try giving one 77 and other JJ). i just assumed one of them would have the 89 or 9T covered with a reasonable frequency. if this happens you are totally screwed (prob ~20% equity).

with the pot odds it might be a tiny bit closer but i folded quickly because i just assumed there was no good situation for our hand.

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MagicNinja

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Nice video.

I wonder though, why is reraising with 7744 good? Obviously its deep with position and with passive and presumably weaker player, but still are we even ever able to get it in good with 7744? Or the main profit here comes from us taking down middle sized pots without a showdown?(that still forces us to make lots of bluffs without eqity(7744) which at first doesnt sound like a good idea imo). Can you please explain?



plays well vs 4 bets at this stack size, and in terms of post flop scenarios, you are either going to flop a set and win a bunch, flop a good board to bluff (eg A82 or K38 or 995) or check and give up. i feel like it just plays out pretty well, your hand is really defined and you will get all the money in wiht good equity for 200 bb if you both flop something.

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Hi, I really enjoyed your video :-)

I would like to know - what are your OH stats / what are the ideal stats? And which stats are most important to take a look upon if you want to improve your game?

Thx mate, and keep the vids coming!

Posted over 2 years ago

DaKaJ

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I dont think I would ever squeeze AAT8 rainbow oop 200bb deep, as you said you're just getting into very bad spots postflop.

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AlexB182

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very interesting video, already looking forward to the next one!

Posted over 2 years ago

billbobongerbinger

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Man I was so disapointed when they didn't have anything by you last season.

Just awesome your back. You are an animal at playing, explaining, and getting me to relate to what your saying.

By far the best DC has to offer in Omaha.

Also as another poster asked, would be curious about...

What your Omaha stats are, and what are the ideal stats in micro, in your opinion. Also which stats are most important to take a look at to help improve your game?


Thanks in advance, and please make this a 20 episode series Smile

You rock the Omaha!

Posted over 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:06:01

So, this might be a noob question but since you think you are only up against a a pair and a gutter you have 50% equity so that is what makes this a call.

How about if the board was Q45r or Qs4s5h would this now be a shove because it is more likely that villain could have a pair and a straight draw in the former case or a pair and a fd in the latter? Thanks!

Posted over 2 years ago

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i know this is late, but i just have to say how epic that intro is. SO GOOD

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