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KRANTZ and WIltOnTilt discuss different player types and how to deal with their respective check raises. They will analyze WiltOnTilt's previous play and talk some theory behind the moves.
KRANTZ and WiltOnTilt are back as we do some more Pr1nnyraiding. This season we move up to the midstakes of HU NLHE and take on a whole new identity of aggression and dominance.
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starting to watch the video
Could you guys turn off the Show Win% option in HM reviews, I hate knowing when the hand gets to showdown/basically what the villain has.
this should be good, thanks guys!
On the 86o hand I agree with krantz on the bluff river shove. My reasoning is that there arent that many hands he crs on the flop and bets turn heavy with that contain a 5 for the straight, so I think that there are a ton of things that are bet-folding so its just a matter of taking them to foldsville.
On that note I think in msnl most players when they bet the turn heavy on 3straight turns where pair+oesd's are prevelant they tend to have a good hand that they dont wanna get outdrawn with, so against a lot of people a fold on the turn would be even better than calling to do something on the river.
other than that , good stuff as usual
-bright
great video. you guys seemed to have shed whatever i didnt like in the other one.
In the 86 hand, a guy who is capable of check raising and betting the turn+river with K9 may be capable of bet/calling a wider range than normal. Your river shove range is polarized to hands that are turning themselves into bluffs and straights afterall. And its hard to make a straight.
then again I'd never play against someone as good as the k9 guy. so what do I know.
I just dont get that K9 riverbet at all if its a valuebet.. what does he hope u have that is worse+is going to call?.. one of the 3 remaining nines I guess(that isnt A9/97), but all overpairs and some 2 pair hands are in your range+ there is some fives in your range.. I think u guys give him too much credit and he probably was bluffing with the K9? I mean.. if I was him I would not put u on just a 6, since all other sixes that didnt made the straight on the river would have folded the turn.. are you guys sure this riverbet wasnt a bluff? good video btw ![]()
Do you think you could restate in this thread what was said by Krantz between 32:37 and 33:27 because the audio completely cuts out?
Do you think you could restate in this thread what was said by Krantz between 32:37 and 33:27 because the audio completely cuts out?
I reuploaded the mp4, it seems to work fine now.
-Rusty
I was curious and looked up ACSLAM (86os hand) on poker table ratings. I know it's not always accurate, but this guy is a pretty solid loser at various stakes from 3/6 to 25/50 NLHE. He's down about 160K over 112K hands.
Doesn't mean he didn't play that hand well though. I doubt he was bluffing with that sizing, however I think he might of called a shove.
In one of the hands against UB is great you c-bet pot. This was on Ultimate Bet I think and I saw some other hand histories where villain c-bet pot. Seems like betting pot is a lot more common on that site.
In one of the hands against UB is great you c-bet pot. This was on Ultimate Bet I think and I saw some other hand histories where villain c-bet pot. Seems like betting pot is a lot more common on that site.
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In this hand you get check raised on a dry board OTF and you float. Villain checks the turn, you bet and he folds.
However what if he leads the turn / what if he check raises you again? Its a weird line but do you give up assuming he has something or do you peel again and see what he does OTR? I think you mentioned you give up to any further resistance but if you could elaborate a little I would appreciate it because I get in these spots frequently.
I know that having reads on your opponent obviously must play a large roll when deciding if you want to continue or not but lets say this is towards the start of the match and you have not played that much. Is your default to fold to further turn action? What if he has been doing this sort of thing a lot?
In this hand you get check raised on a dry board OTF and you float. Villain checks the turn, you bet and he folds.
However what if he leads the turn / what if he check raises you again? Its a weird line but do you give up assuming he has something or do you peel again and see what he does OTR? I think you mentioned you give up to any further resistance but if you could elaborate a little I would appreciate it because I get in these spots frequently.
I know that having reads on your opponent obviously must play a large roll when deciding if you want to continue or not but lets say this is towards the start of the match and you have not played that much. Is your default to fold to further turn action? What if he has been doing this sort of thing a lot?
if it's toward the top of the match and we dont have the read about what type of player he is or what his c/c and c/r range looks like, we can either fold the flop or fold the turn. I would rather save the double floats (flop and turn bet) on a board where it's easier to represent some more combos of monsters that are slowplaying (like say a paired board).
if we know he c/r the flop and bets the turn often, then we need to adjust 2 things, our flop cbet range and our flop 3bet range. We need to be willing to either bluff 3bet the flop more or polarize our cbet range to make it easier to play. Against guys who play tough/tricky/more balanced, you might want to check behind some bottom pairs, A high, or even this K high here. Vs guys who just sort of c/r really polarized and auto bet the turn just to be aggressive without thinking of their ranges (you see this a lot) you might just prefer bet/calling with bottom pair and letting him bluff.
if it's toward the top of the match and we dont have the read about what type of player he is or what his c/c and c/r range looks like, we can either fold the flop or fold the turn. I would rather save the double floats (flop and turn bet) on a board where it's easier to represent some more combos of monsters that are slowplaying (like say a paired board).
if we know he c/r the flop and bets the turn often, then we need to adjust 2 things, our flop cbet range and our flop 3bet range. We need to be willing to either bluff 3bet the flop more or polarize our cbet range to make it easier to play. Against guys who play tough/tricky/more balanced, you might want to check behind some bottom pairs, A high, or even this K high here. Vs guys who just sort of c/r really polarized and auto bet the turn just to be aggressive without thinking of their ranges (you see this a lot) you might just prefer bet/calling with bottom pair and letting him bluff.
Ok,
Thank you. I will keep that in mind I think it makes a lot of sense. I run into some guys that just c/raise air and will actually call a 3-bet with it. Then maybe even call a turn bet. I know that sounds nuts but against those guys it's better to just wait to value town them than to try and out aggress them right?
Ok,
Thank you. I will keep that in mind I think it makes a lot of sense. I run into some guys that just c/raise air and will actually call a 3-bet with it. Then maybe even call a turn bet. I know that sounds nuts but against those guys it's better to just wait to value town them than to try and out aggress them right?
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