Episode Three
Episode Three
Episode Three: The Valuetown Express (aka how to own people and take their money). Dan and Vanessa continue their series on small-stakes NL dominance with the next installment on how to get the most out of your hands. Watch and learn how to get induce bluffs, when to use strange post-flop lines, and how to use lines that blur your handrange to make your opponents spew chips in your direction as quickly as possible.
tags: dj sensei vanessa fslexcduck small stakes nl valuebetting minraise no-limit nlhe no limit ipod friendly
This Series: Unconventional Wisdom
Join DJ Sensei and Vanessa Selbst as they think outside the box. Hand after hand of unorthodox, tricky and engaging play for the small stakes No-Limit player. Bid goodbye to ABC poker but be careful not to spew!
Comments for Episode Three
Great ep as always and cant wait for next weeks.
Nice stack on the one table DJ!
I think the final hand was pretty awesome and its great to show just how far you guys will go with a little bit of early information.
Great video but I can't help thinking that the whole series is based on result oriented thinking. Maybe it's because the moves are so unconventional :s
Heh, $1500 stack is def a thinly veiled brag.
Great stuff again. Keep it up.
Great video but I can't help thinking that the whole series is based on result oriented thinking. Maybe it's because the moves are so unconventional :s
Well thats a reasonable conclusion, given that pretty much every hand we show is us owning somebody. Obviously we mostly picked hands where things went well, but as you'll see later on (when we show our stats and graphs) we actually did quite well overall. I think we might even show some "bloopers" where we make a play and run into the nuts, but that'll be in one of the last videos.
This video has already put a couple of hundred dollars
in my pocket. Thank you!
What I did was to play one table, take my time, and
every time that I had a hand stop and think;
"How can I extract the most possible from this hand?"
Not I have a set, never slow play a set, so bet.
The results were very interesting and profitable.
I'll be watching this video several times, not to
memorize, but to understand the thought process, yours
and your opponents.
the video fades out for me at 2:51 instead of lasting 72 minutes
the video fades out for me at 2:51 instead of lasting 72 minutes
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thanks,
Rob
Great video but I can't help thinking that the whole series is based on result oriented thinking. Maybe it's because the moves are so unconventional :s
Well thats a reasonable conclusion, given that pretty much every hand we show is us owning somebody. Obviously we mostly picked hands where things went well, but as you'll see later on (when we show our stats and graphs) we actually did quite well overall. I think we might even show some "bloopers" where we make a play and run into the nuts, but that'll be in one of the last videos.
Please don't do the "bloopers" video if it's only for entertainment. However, I would love to see some spots where you got an unexpected or undesired response and how you evaluated the situation at that point. Obviously this will not be spots where you push or call all in but some other spots like where you go for the delayed float but the player doesn't cooperate. Do you just give up? Do you alter his hand range? Do you come up with a new play? Do you store that info for later use? You get the point.
Love the series...thanks.
good stuff as usual. how about an episode on how to turn the best card in the deck? you seem to have that down to a science
Poker looks so easy, when everything you pull works out ;)
In the last hand, you raise JTo in the CO, habitual 3-bettor calls, AT8 flop. 2 questions:
1) You seemed like 100% sure he can't have an A here. He actually called with QJs. Isn't it quite possible, that he calls with a hand like Axs here as well?
2) Why open JTo in CO with OTB being such a pain in the butt? I usually tighten up in those situations and just fold JTo. Wrong?
Good series, looking forward to next week.
yeah i think this video series is excellent. lot's of interesting spots and good, detailed analysis. this is exactly what i wanted from a poker video, i just didn't know it.
great work.
i'd be very interested to see pt stats of you two of all your hands played at 200nl during this period.
those video are hard to understand and put in our play.
But I like those, I will listen to them again and again :)
Im already applying some of techniques you teatch and it work well, good job
i'd be very interested to see pt stats of you two of all your hands played at 200nl during this period.
We show and talk about our results in one of the last few episodes, so you've got that to look forward to!
Great video but I can't help thinking that the whole series is based on result oriented thinking. Maybe it's because the moves are so unconventional :s
Well thats a reasonable conclusion, given that pretty much every hand we show is us owning somebody. Obviously we mostly picked hands where things went well, but as you'll see later on (when we show our stats and graphs) we actually did quite well overall. I think we might even show some "bloopers" where we make a play and run into the nuts, but that'll be in one of the last videos.
this is a good idea to see what mistakes were made and learn from them... please do make a video of this...
UW is the best video series online. It crushes most other videos I've seen on most other sites. That's saying something.
So apparently I like to call pot-sized river checkraises with one pair when the flush hits for no apparent reason...oh wait its fslex, she doesn't know who i am, i know who she is, i know she can be bluffing a lot against a random 1/2 NL player, i call ;)
So apparently I like to call pot-sized river checkraises with one pair when the flush hits for no apparent reason...oh wait its fslex, she doesn't know who i am, i know who she is, i know she can be bluffing a lot against a random 1/2 NL player, i call ;)
hence our point that you should probably not be bluffing too many rivers ;-)
So apparently I like to call pot-sized river checkraises with one pair when the flush hits for no apparent reason...oh wait its fslex, she doesn't know who i am, i know who she is, i know she can be bluffing a lot against a random 1/2 NL player, i call ;)
hence our point that you should probably not be bluffing too many rivers ;-)
meh, i think the main problem is that you're fslexcduck, and every 2p2 1/2 reg knows who you are and wants to be the guy that made the hero call on a high stakes pro. also fwiw the way our hand played out, you weren't really repping anything that i could think of; with the pot-sized river raise i couldnt really put you on anything that you would be raising for value since it looked like i had a pretty weak holding.
UW is the best video series online. It crushes most other videos I've seen on most other sites. That's saying something.
I agree: something disappointing. Like, you know, awesome owning valuetown, dude.
There are nuggets in here, and I guess it may turn out to be worth the money, but finding them requires panning through a whole lot of verbal gravel.
Good stuff and I really appreciate that there is something new styles and ideas.
But I think too some of those tricky plays are just (stupid?) tricky plays which can't work in real or at least you gotta be very, very good hand reader.
I don't personally like minraises, though I know there is some points where it's a great move. But I can't see any idea why do you make miniraise in situation like this:
(Starts on video at time 1:00:00)You are on button with QJs. CO opens to 7, you call and flop comes Q
9
4
. CO cbets 10 and you almost minraise here to 25. Why on earth? Just like you said he gets great odds to almost all of his range. I think here is way too many dangerous cards on turn, so I can't see the point why do just make the pot bigger but don't get almost any idea what does he has. Okay, maybe because this hand is on the video the turn brings a blanco (3 :heart), but what would you do if it was a third club, jack, king, ace, eight or ten and he even bets like a 3/4 pots or makes big check-raise?
...and yeah, sorry for my english.
QJhh hand.. flop raise: 'not quite a min raise, certainly not a full raise.. just a little bitty.. kinda of uhhh piss him off a little bit raise".. awesome. hahaha
QJhh hand.. flop raise: 'not quite a min raise, certainly not a full raise.. just a little bitty.. kinda of uhhh piss him off a little bit raise".. awesome. hahaha
Just wanted to type that too :-)
You shoulda slow rolled him Dan, tanked it to the last second....
You shoulda slow rolled him Dan, tanked it to the last second....
I've only slowrolled somebody seriously once. It was a shortstacker allin preflop and I had AA. He sucked out on me. I decided karma wasn't a fan of slowrolling.
That being said, I fully encourage slowrolling when playing chinese poker with your friends, or playing blackjack at a stupid casino where they won't let you play your hand face up.
Great, great series. I've been playing poker for three years and this series makes me diverge from standard ABC poker and get a bit more creative/spewy ![]()
One question; why is the 77 a call preflop and the 33 hand a muck when we are not in a multiway pot?
Poker looks so easy, when everything you pull works out![]()
In the last hand, you raise JTo in the CO, habitual 3-bettor calls, AT8 flop. 2 questions:
1) You seemed like 100% sure he can't have an A here. He actually called with QJs. Isn't it quite possible, that he calls with a hand like Axs here as well?
2) Why open JTo in CO with OTB being such a pain in the butt? I usually tighten up in those situations and just fold JTo. Wrong?
Good series, looking forward to next week.
I was wondering the exaxt same thing, think he could easily flat stuff like axs because he doesn't want to face a 4b. I mean he flatcalled QJs here so in this hand he wasn't planning on 3bing light. Also on the river lot of stuff comes in so the call is pretty close instead of a snapcall imo.
Other then that this is a great series ![]()
