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Pokersense: Episode Three

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Pokersense: Episode Three by WiltOnTilt

WiltOnTilt continues on the topic of bias and fallacies and how they relate to poker.

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Why do some players succeed and others fail? WiltOnTilt gets on his soapbox to explain his philosophies on a variety of issues that plague poker players, including personality traits, confidence, motivation, mind games, and logical biases that cloud our thinking.

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  • Game: other
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 60 minutes long
  • Posted about 1 year ago

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Steppin Razor

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Time Link to 00:52:27

The fix for your attention span could be the getting rid of your HUD though. For some people, the HUD is a short cut around fully thinking out a spot or observing their opponents. It's not the HUD's fault, but it's in the way. It may be wise to get rid of it, train oneself to play without it, then add it back in for appropriate use.

Kind of like an automatic transmission. As long as you have a car with it, you're never going to learn to drive a manual. Once you learn w/o an automatic transmission, you can always go back to it. Not a great example, but basically people who can drive a manual can drive any car and people who always had an auto can't drive anything else.

Posted over 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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I agree with you but I think it's the exception, not the rule. People should first try to do something else to increase their focus beside just getting rid of
a very valuable tool. For instance maybe just slim down the HUD to very basic stats like vpip pfr 3b and cbet % and leave out the rest if you think the HUD is distracting. IMO for most ppl completely removing it is overkill and not fixing the real problem. It's sort of like using a bulldozer for your flower garden. Sure it makes a hole to plant your flowers but isn't a small hand shovel a better solution?

Posted over 1 year ago

fishtastic

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Time Link to 00:41:37

That would be the legendary Ellix Powers vs Jim McManus(sp?) which can be seen here. The hand in question starts at 3:00, but if you haven't already seen it you should really watch the whole clip. It's hysterical.

Posted over 1 year ago

SpewKid

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I really love this series, but tbh some of that biases stuff seems a bit redundant. I don't think we need to hear for the millionth time that someone who won a big donkament might not be the greatest player in the world Smile

Posted over 1 year ago

infire

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Do you happen to have the Charlie Munger link you mentioned?

Posted over 1 year ago

fishtastic

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fishtastic

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I really enjoyed the last two episodes and am looking forward to more. I enjoy your presentation style and the fact that you are willing to give examples even though it might irritate some people.

It's very embarrassing to look back and realize how often I used the bandwagon fallacy when I first started learning poker.

Posted over 1 year ago

Bazman76

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What do you make of guys like Helmuth and Matusow? My theory is that they tilt and exhaust people with their antics but are sort of detached from their outbursts and not inclined to self-consciousness or self-criticism due to being narcissistic.

Posted over 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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I really love this series, but tbh some of that biases stuff seems a bit redundant. I don't think we need to hear for the millionth time that someone who won a big donkament might not be the greatest player in the world Smile



might get some more of that in the next episode, i can't remember exactly what i said in each because it blends together. I'll make sure to put a lid on that for ep 5-8 (haven't yet recorded)

I should come up with some different examples, but I guess the reason why I kept going back to it is because it's such a pervasive feeling in the poker world that it's hard not to beat this dead horse.

WoT

Posted over 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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Do you happen to have the Charlie Munger link you mentioned?



http://vinvesting.com/docs/munger/human_misjudgement.html

enjoy, it's quite a good read.

WoT

Posted over 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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What do you make of guys like Helmuth and Matusow? My theory is that they tilt and exhaust people with their antics but are sort of detached from their outbursts and not inclined to self-consciousness or self-criticism due to being narcissistic.



i think there's definitely some of that going on. there's also some self promotion/play a character/controversial figure = $ in pocket going on too.

It can't all be an act though, it has to be a good % of being a clown.

WoT

Posted over 1 year ago

KingJames_KJ

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Re: Bandwagoning in forum HH discussions.

Read the OP and write a response before scrolling down and reading the responses. It will help your thought process immensely. Than read the responses and respond to those. It will help your post count immensely, which will make you a grey-beard with 5k posts who doesn't have to listen to anyone Wink

Posted over 1 year ago

chewchew

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TheGfactor

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Great stuff, really enjoying your videos lately.

Posted over 1 year ago

DOMSTER

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Time Link to 00:40:27

Hey Aron,

great that you talk about Charlie Munger, I am about to read his book and one interesting concept he uses for investing but we can use for poker is the idea of "inverting". So besides asking yourself, what do i have to do to beat my opponent in general or in a specific hand we should also ask ourselves, what must i not do. Inverting is always looking at any given problem from the other side what we should absolutely refrain from doing when sitting at the table with an aggro monkey etc.

Loving your series, keep the good work up

Dominik

Posted over 1 year ago

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TazUltimate

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There are now mp3 versions of all pokersense episodes available.
-Rusty

Posted over 1 year ago

WiltOnTilt

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CremeDeLaKrem

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Time Link to 00:57:51

lol it seems like youre a lil biased here, contradicting your entire series! i dont remember all of the philosophies but to imply that phil hellmuth has run hot for his entire career is as illogical a statement as ive ever heard. i think thats a false cause as to why he blows up when he loses critical pots in tournaments. i guess hatas gon hate! Smile

Posted 8 months ago

WiltOnTilt

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lol it seems like youre a lil biased here, contradicting your entire series! i dont remember all of the philosophies but to imply that phil hellmuth has run hot for his entire career is as illogical a statement as ive ever heard. i think thats a false cause as to why he blows up when he loses critical pots in tournaments. i guess hatas gon hate! Smile



Just a theory... Wink

Besides, he doesn't run hot when he blows up, which is often these days... so its not like I think he runs hot his entire career Smile

But of course the entire example is a bit tongue in cheek. He is obviously very good, but no one wins that many bracelets w/o significant run hot. It doesn't mean it's the only reason he wins, but it is part of the reason. If Ivey had the same results I'd say the same.

You could be right though! It might be a false cause. The world may never know...

Posted 8 months ago



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