I think the overbet in the first hand (AQo on 567 with a fd) is a mistake. It's probably +ev ,and you will get him to fold a lot. But it's way better if we can get him to call once (or twice), and then get him to fold.
Terp and Orange continue to talk about perceived hand ranges against better opponents and manipulating it so they think what we want them to think . . . I think.
Ask any great No Limit player what his biggest strength is, and he’ll tell you it’s his ability to read hands. We hear the term “hand ranges†thrown around left, right and center. Why? Orange and terp explore the answer in this series, primarily focused on hand reading, equity distribution and balancing. A must watch for any micro or small stakes player.
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I think the overbet in the first hand (AQo on 567 with a fd) is a mistake. It's probably +ev ,and you will get him to fold a lot. But it's way better if we can get him to call once (or twice), and then get him to fold.
I think the overbet in the first hand (AQo on 567 with a fd) is a mistake. It's probably +ev ,and you will get him to fold a lot. But it's way better if we can get him to call once (or twice), and then get him to fold.
yeah, I agree with this
I don't know how common c/raise bluffing is at 400NL, but if it happens with anywhere near the same frequency as it does at 100NL (low) I really see no reason not to induce a few more light calls on the flop from villain, it also saves us money from when villain does c/raises us as we'll be doing it way more often as a bluff than for value
great vid otherwise though
Yeah the overbet might have been unnecessary on the first hand. A PSB probably accomplishes the same thing in most cases. I think terp wanted to do this in this instance though to widen the range in which he does this (despite it being low in frequency). I think it might've been better with deeper stacks but meh.
This is a kinda goofy non poker video suggestion, but if possible in future series can you avoid having a solid white back ground it really blasts my already blasted sore poker eyes. i would think a lot of other people would appreciate it too. a light blue or any kinda colored background would be better... thanks, i enjoyed the series and your efforts
This is a kinda goofy non poker video suggestion, but if possible in future series can you avoid having a solid white back ground it really blasts my already blasted sore poker eyes. i would think a lot of other people would appreciate it too. a light blue or any kinda colored background would be better... thanks, i enjoyed the series and your efforts
I love the white background on my laptop as it makes everything easier to read.
I think the overbet in the first hand (AQo on 567 with a fd) is a mistake. It's probably +ev ,and you will get him to fold a lot. But it's way better if we can get him to call once (or twice), and then get him to fold.
it will be difficult for us to forecast exactly how many calls we will get prior to a fold with a PSB, whereas an overbet likely defines his hand immediately (without defining mine, since I will do this with my monsters, too). it will also have the benefit of making his mistakes the most pricey when i have a hand...
Hi,
First --> Terp/Orange --> Thank you for this series. I think it's fantastic and I learned a lot.
Second --> I'm kind of new to the poker training sites and have a question that will probably seem super-basic but I guess I'd rather ask/understand then get taken at the tables.
With the hand with the pocket 44's where you check-raise and I guess one of you said you'd prob call with Ace-high cause it looks like a bluff --> why does it look like a bluff?
I'm not disagreeing that it looks like a bluff (I'm neutral), but I think I have a bad tendency of assuming that the other player always has something when they check-raise --> an overpair, or a board-pair or at least a monster-draw (not in this hand, but in general).
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated -- thx!
hi hairybear,
thanks for the very nice comments.
would you mind using the time-link feature? we made these a very long time ago and i happen to be a bit old, especially in this industry ![]()
Hi Terp,
Thank you for responding so immediately/professionally -- one thing I really like about this site is that the instructors seem so available.
I'm only a month old in DC member years so I'm going to try to figure out which link you're referring to (I think it's the "Comment from Timeline" link -- sorry if I'm wrong...).
I'll try to keep it short/simple so as not to mess up the integrity of the video.
Time Link to 00:21:18
Hi -- why does it look like Hero is bluffing? I'm not disagreeing -- I'm just neutrally asking. Thx!
thanks a lot! i agree that DC is a very good community and the coaches here are pretty thrilled to stay involved. the dashboard interface is very good too for making sure that people stay involved in discussions.
ok, it looks like a bluff because it seems like hero is not immediately representing a value hand. hands that are overpairs are quite likely to 3bet preflop, and those that didn't (88/99 etc depending on the player) are not strong enough to automatically c/r for value, given how many stronger hands our opponent (BTN) has in his range.
you might ask: what is or what should be our value c/r range here after we flat call preflop? we cannot represent a flush draw (rainbow board!). we have virtually (or zero) 2x. 7x and 88 are a bit weak to c/r unless we expect our opponent to monkey spew. even if he spews, he has so many hands better than either of these that it might not be spew, since his range is strong.
thus, since we can't really have a value c/r range, it appears a bluff.
Hi Terp,
Thank you for the explanation -- it definitely makes a lot more sense to me now. I really appreciate you taking out the time to write back a very well-thought out response.
WiltonTilt immediately wrote back to one of my questions too (diff. series) -- he also really took out the time to give a well-thought out response and explanation.
So, I'm def. really happy with this site -- thx again!
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