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Hand Readers: Episode Five

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Hand Readers: Episode Five by terp, orange

Those fun loving gypsy's are back in their next installment of Hand Readers. Terp and Orange continue their discussion of two-barrel bluffing and how it leads into semi-bluffing the turn.

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Ask any great No Limit player what his biggest strength is, and he’ll tell you it’s his ability to read hands. We hear the term “hand ranges” thrown around left, right and center. Why? Orange and terp explore the answer in this series, primarily focused on hand reading, equity distribution and balancing. A must watch for any micro or small stakes player.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 65 minutes long
  • Posted over 4 years ago

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TheBeloved

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Lateksi

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powerpoint link not working for me


something's messed up with the link :S
clicky

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Entity

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MattSLY

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On the Tc8c hand, you need your turn semibluff to work 60% of the time because 82/137 =.598...

edit:I think I screwed up this calculation however. Does anyone know how to do this correctly?

Posted over 4 years ago

Sugar Nut

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The Dude does.

Just set effstacks to 82 and Hero's equity to zero.

it's 37.44% needed FE assuming we're drawing dead if called (which we aren't)

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HonteleJ

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Please save the powerpoint as office 2003 compatible (.ppt)
This new Microsoft imposed OOXML format is horror.
Just google some and you'll understand.

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terp

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Please save the powerpoint as office 2003 compatible (.ppt)
This new Microsoft imposed OOXML format is horror.
Just google some and you'll understand.



will do for the next one, thanks and sorry about the issue. i would resave this one but i don't have access to my PC at the moment.

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Melting Clocks

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Is this meant for new players. You guys took what felt like forever on the 8Jc turn bet when it it was an obvious bet that you explained well within less than 5 minutes.

Take this as - A. It is meant for basic players shut up Melting Clocks or B. Thanks for the constructive criticism

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terp

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Is this meant for new players. You guys took what felt like forever on the 8Jc turn bet when it it was an obvious bet that you explained well within less than 5 minutes.

Take this as - A. It is meant for basic players shut up Melting Clocks or B. Thanks for the constructive criticism



the point of this series is to illustrate that while many of you already know what to do in many spots, you might not know why

having the correct thought process is useful in infinite situations; having the correct action is limited in use to one situation

we are trying to help people think better, not merely tell them "3bet a lot in position LOL watch them fold"

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On the Tc8c hand, you need your turn semibluff to work 60% of the time because 82/137 =.598...

edit:I think I screwed up this calculation however. Does anyone know how to do this correctly?



its bet / (bet + pot), or 82 / (82 + 137) = 37.4%

as an approximation tool, you can just remember that a full pot bet needs to work 50% of the time, a 2/3 bet needs to work 40%, and a 1/2 pot bet needs to work 33%, and as they said in the video if you are off by a couple percent its not a big deal.

good vid guys.

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Guys, loving the series. I don't think it gets enough love. People are just generally lazy and would rather want to watch KRANTZ spew off buy-ins at 2/4 than watch powerpoint glides and listen to good poker analasys and actually think. Keep it up.

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Thanks guys, best series for my development as a poker player so far imo, good analysis well thought out, keep up the good work.

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Entity

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Please save the powerpoint as office 2003 compatible (.ppt)
This new Microsoft imposed OOXML format is horror.
Just google some and you'll understand.


Here you go:

Episode Four Powerpoint (PPT format)
Episode Five Powerpoint (PPT format)

Rob

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Paracelse

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On the board KK37 at ~30min, you said we bluff the turn because we except him to fold TT-, and you said we'd bet JJ for value.

Obviously there is no value in a bet with JJ if he fold TT, so if we are betting JJ it's more for balance, for protecting our bluff than for value, am i right ?

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Liquid Cash

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How long did it take you guys to get good at hand reading?

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terp

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How long did it take you guys to get good at hand reading?



i don't really know. i think i felt confident in it when i developed a pretty good filter for considering situations and ranges, you also feel a lot of confidence the first time you do things that might eventually seem trivial or commonplace:
-ace high hero call
-turning hands into bluffs
-exploiting capped ranges
-incorporating overbets to generate folds (or calls!)
-etc

the main thing is to keep pressing yourself to assign ranges and keep checking your thinking against what you see. ie, was your opponent's hand inside the range you assigned? if not, why did you fail to include it. one example will never confirm the frequency, but the complete exclusion of a hand (in other words, 0% frequency) is going to be a mistake in hand reading.

keep practicing and refining!

Posted over 1 year ago

Liquid Cash

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I have heard the term capped ranges but can you tell me what that is exactly?

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terp

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np - capped range is just a short way to say that someone's range stop short of including the nuts

it's quite easy to overestimate the importance of this, though. for instance, if you have six nuts combos that they never have (say, AA and QQ on AQx) but also have a ton more air, the fact the top of your range >>> theirs isn't quite relevant.

what it does do is enable you to bluff more, since every few combos of value hands you can have but they can't open up another bluffing opportunity. if you bet pot, for instance, you 'should' have 2:1 value:bluffs

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Liquid Cash

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np - capped range is just a short way to say that someone's range stop short of including the nuts

it's quite easy to overestimate the importance of this, though. for instance, if you have six nuts combos that they never have (say, AA and QQ on AQx) but also have a ton more air, the fact the top of your range >>> theirs isn't quite relevant.

what it does do is enable you to bluff more, since every few combos of value hands you can have but they can't open up another bluffing opportunity. if you bet pot, for instance, you 'should' have 2:1 value:bluffs



Ah,
That makes sense. Thank you Smile

Posted over 1 year ago



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