Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by FoxwoodsFiend (Mid Stakes)

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Time Link to 00:34:45

I mean I am just a microdonkey so take my advice with a grain of salt.

But that KK hand just looks horrible.
For the sake of protecting the weak end of your Sb 3betting range in medium pots - you sacrifice the value of large bets with the strong part of your range. Particularly when villian is not 4betting TT then he actually has alot more 1 pr hands that can actually bluffcatch.
Furthermore - are you really needing to balance on the super- dry boards such as 633 anyway?
So either he does call down alot and you are missing a ton of value or he isnt and a very reasonable alternative is to barrel 2 or 3 sts with your entire range because you believe he cannot call down as much. Thus you can balance by checking thin value cause its he does not call down light and add overcards air with your strong value if you feel you cannot be exploitable on super-dry boards in steal range 3bet pots.

And I remember seeing a video of Balugas - where its ok to be exploitable and have a very narrow value range if you actually have the value range that you represent - because they can still be inelastic to your range anyway and if they arent then you can change in future. ( I hope that accurately reps what he said).

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guys can u plz put up ipod compatible downloads!

I think ipod compatible videos are released only for presentation or one-tabling videos. It's hard to watch 4tables on an ipod anyway.

I would just shove this ATo hand in the end when u get minraised on 248r 3-bet pot, that guy never has anything here.

Oh, and I find it kind of curious that you advocate folding small pairs in the SB vs a BTN open but still you call 3-bets w33 BTN vs a SB 3-bet, I think I would much much rather call in the first case and fold in the 2nd one than the other way around.

Great video, guys!

... are you really needing to balance on the super- dry boards such as 633 anyway

I guess we can barrel KK and also have our range somewhat balanced. What we need is to just check hands that are beating his floats, but are not good enough to extract 3 streets of value - 99, TT, some (trashy) Jx or hands like 6x, small PPs we were 3bet bluffing with. The stronger part of mentioned range we check if we don't think he is folding a lot on the turn and/or just love to bet for protection there and with weakest made hands we have no problems check/calling if he is very "floaty" .

What do you think?

The stronger part of mentioned range we check if we don't think he is folding a lot ...

Errata: "If we do think he is folding a lot ... "

Too late to edit it .

Time Link to 00:47:29

With the AT on that 832 flop, what do you think of shoving as opposed to clicking it back? Would you bluff some turns if he called your min3bet? Would you also click it back with AK or do you think that would make you pot committed anyway?
Thanks a lot

guys can u plz put up ipod compatible downloads!

I think ipod compatible videos are released only for presentation or one-tabling videos. It's hard to watch 4tables on an ipod anyway.

This. iPod compatible vids are reserved for 1 tabling or theory vids or vids where there isn't a lot of action (such as multitabling poker).

Time Link to 00:06:03

I find this 2ndBarell tbh very good and standard b/c when you do not 2ndBarell here even a FD+GS , then what your 2ndBarellrange is here? (only Trips, I guess -> seems to be not optimal).
Of course you also have here FEQ vs. K-high-hands and all kinds of 2ndPairs like Hielko mentioned.
But I also would not 3barell the river in this spot (have here also negative experiences and just hope that my memory is not too selective on this one).

Time Link to 00:15:11

C/R is here for mentioned reasons sure good and +ev, but on this board,
I woul probably C/Call more often my strong hands than C/Raising it -> hence I would slightly prefer here to start a OOP-Float here with my backdoorEQ (including the possibility to C/R certain turns...)

Oh, and I find it kind of curious that you advocate folding small pairs in the SB vs a BTN open but still you call 3-bets w33 BTN vs a SB 3-bet, I think I would much much rather call in the first case and fold in the 2nd one than the other way around.

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Time Link to 00:24:47

agree that a call cannot be too bad vs. a good-aggr. player b/c it is such a decent spot to turn weak hands into a bluff.
But one question:
Why didn`t you bet the river somewhat bigger to also rep some bluffs?
Or would you also bluff here with about half PS, if you would ever bluff?

With the AT on that 832 flop, what do you think of shoving as opposed to clicking it back? Would you bluff some turns if he called your min3bet? Would you also click it back with AK or do you think that would make you pot committed anyway?
Thanks a lot

I would prefer shoving above clicking it back since you should have decent equity a lot vs a calling range, but don't know how FWF sees this. Think shoving AK would be a lot better than AT though for all the times villain has TT-QQ.

agree that a call cannot be too bad vs. a good-aggr. player b/c it is such a decent spot to turn weak hands into a bluff.
But one question:
Why didn`t you bet the river somewhat bigger to also rep some bluffs?
Or would you also bluff here with about half PS, if you would ever bluff?

I would bluff the same amount. Not sure if my sizing is optimal, but half pot makes it more attractive for villain to bluffcatch and less attractive to check/raise as a bluff, so that's good for us. But yeah, gives him also better odds on a call when we are bluffing.

I would bluff the same amount. Not sure if my sizing is optimal, but half pot makes it more attractive for villain to bluffcatch and less attractive to check/raise as a bluff, so that's good for us. But yeah, gives him also better odds on a call when we are bluffing.

all right, thank you for answering.
The thing that it makes for him C/Raising the river less attractive (less deadmoney to collect, I guess) is indeed very interesting - even did not consider it before^^

Great series so far, really get alot from the foxwoodfiend sweating good regs videos. Got questions on a couple of hands:

A10 facing minreraise on 248 - I feel clicking back these days almost turns our hand face up here, are you really gonna click back sets, 2pairs and overpairs in this spot. I'd expect to get shoved on alot with air and kinda like clicking back to induce this when I flop big but know villain prob has nothing to pay me off with but a levelling shove.

55 in SB - Will you not be putting yourself in alot of tough spots later on 3betting this as the BTN is so likely to call?

in the aces hand on the diamands board, if we call there and give up on a diamand, are we any worried about getting bluffed off our hands by his total bluffs on the flop?

his total combo's of flushdraws that will fold the turn are pretty small anyways, probably like AdJ and some AdT KdJ if he doesnt fold those preflop and always raises em on the flop for a max of 9 combo's. He will also call those hands on T and J turns but thats not bad for us...

I did the math and it is indeed a bigger equity to call and shove non diamand turns against those hands (something like 220 profit against the 165 of getting it in on the flop) So if we think he never bluffraises the flop with air (or never continues on a diamand turn) its better to call and shove turn.

Time Link to 00:08:42

on the 55 you said you flop a set 1 in 11.5 but its actually 1 in 8.5, maybe just mixed up words because I think that's like 11.5% or so.

plz make heilko stop talking , most anoying accesnt ever

Time Link to 00:35:32

seems wierd to C/C w/ TT on the King high board top right table when the spade falls on the turn and then C/f the river when the 8 falls since he would probably not bet an 8 on the turn for value and so I would think he either has Kx a flush or a set and then some floats. Just wondering why you didnt just fold the turn if you plan on folding a river like an 8?

plz make heilko stop talking , most anoying accesnt ever

Sorry can't do that

seems wierd to C/C w/ TT on the King high board top right table when the spade falls on the turn and then C/f the river when the 8 falls since he would probably not bet an 8 on the turn for value and so I would think he either has Kx a flush or a set and then some floats. Just wondering why you didnt just fold the turn if you plan on folding a river like an 8?

It's obviously not a great spot on the turn, maybe check/folding is better. But you can of course call one street and fold the next even though nothing changes on the board. On the turn it looks like I could have total air that just check/folds, while on the river it is clear that that's not the case. So would expect him to give up with air a decent amount.

I mean I am just a microdonkey so take my advice with a grain of salt.

But that KK hand just looks horrible.
For the sake of protecting the weak end of your Sb 3betting range in medium pots - you sacrifice the value of large bets with the strong part of your range. Particularly when villian is not 4betting TT then he actually has alot more 1 pr hands that can actually bluffcatch.
Furthermore - are you really needing to balance on the super- dry boards such as 633 anyway?
So either he does call down alot and you are missing a ton of value or he isnt and a very reasonable alternative is to barrel 2 or 3 sts with your entire range because you believe he cannot call down as much. Thus you can balance by checking thin value cause its he does not call down light and add overcards air with your strong value if you feel you cannot be exploitable on super-dry boards in steal range 3bet pots.

And I remember seeing a video of Balugas - where its ok to be exploitable and have a very narrow value range if you actually have the value range that you represent - because they can still be inelastic to your range anyway and if they arent then you can change in future. ( I hope that accurately reps what he said).

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bump? no love

Time Link to 00:33:42

I get the reasoning of flatting here a 4bet, when i assume a high Bluff4betrange in this spot.
B/c I am absolutely not used to it , it seems anyway sick to me.
So,
What hands you would in general be inclined to flat here (instead of folding or jamming)?
KQs, AJs, ATs, KJs, , I guess.
AQ, I guess is a too nice 3bet/5bet-jam-hand in such a spot?
What about AJo, KQo...?
What about balancing in this spot?
And what about your flopplan - I guess, you would C/Jam in a high freq. with any BackdoorEQ and not to play only fit or fold?

There are certainly more questions which just don`t come into my mind atm.
Surprisingly that nobody already have asked you many questions about this b/c this strategy seems to be very interesting but also for the most, I guess pretty uncommon and somewhat mystic D:

It's obviously not a great spot on the turn, maybe check/folding is better. But you can of course call one street and fold the next even though nothing changes on the board. On the turn it looks like I could have total air that just check/folds, while on the river it is clear that that's not the case. So would expect him to give up with air a decent amount.

Ok ya that seems fair. Do you take that line a lot in spots like this call one street and then just give up if they fire 2 barrels? I guess you would need a specific read to make the call on the river.

Ok ya that seems fair. Do you take that line a lot in spots like this call one street and then just give up if they fire 2 barrels? I guess you would need a specific read to make the call on the river.

I guess,
you did not notice that Villain has betted here 1BB on the turn?

Time Link to 00:45:25

I can imagine myself to at least consider here to checkback with my ATo on the QJ5r-Board - just b/c the Board should hit a standard 3bet-Callrange of Villain pretty hard... -> so I can take my EQ with me 1 further street - But i am not sure about this...

For a similar reason, I actually love your plan to C/Jam the KJ-hand with the OESD in a 3betPot, which has appeared later.

Anyways, I am ready with watching the 2ndPart and wanna just say
Thank you to you both - great job and keep on

Time Link to 00:08:43

In spots like this with 55 in the SB, I thought I remember Grindcore would often just backraise the BB if he squeezed here. I think he'd do this with almost any pair he flatted here in the first place, unless the BB had a super-tight squeezing range. But I guess in order to balance this strategy, we should start flatting stronger pairs and AQ type hands too.

FWF, this probably doesn't fit in with your overall resteal strategy since you have a high 3bet % here and just 3bet all of these hands to begin with, but what do you think about calling/backraising here? If you don't like it with a 6% squeeze by BB, how high would his squeeze % have to be in order to make it a good play? Also, if you resteal 55, what do you do with 77-99 type hands?

Time Link to 00:40:01

I just dont understand why ur constantly making so small bets. Like all ur Cbet and barrels are like half pot.
Like in the KK hand where u checked the turn, all I was thinking was how ur small flop Cbet made it impossible to barrel all in on the river.

I just dont understand why ur constantly making so small bets. Like all ur Cbet and barrels are like half pot.
Like in the KK hand where u checked the turn, all I was thinking was how ur small flop Cbet made it impossible to barrel all in on the river.

When i remeber it right, all the 1/2-PS-Cbets were made in 3bet_pots which is b/c of the lower SPR good to do with your whole range in general (in most spots)

I guess,
you did not notice that Villain has betted here 1BB on the turn?

Ooops no I did not notice this the numbers are a little blurry. Well that changes things. Damn well im an idiot

Time Link to 00:23:14

Dont you think a larger value bet with top pair here on the river would look more like a bluff so youre more likely to get called down thin,and also reduce the risk of being check raised bluffed,a bigger value bet could also be interpreted as stronger reducing the risk of the check raise bluff further,what do you think?

I mean I am just a microdonkey so take my advice with a grain of salt.

But that KK hand just looks horrible.
For the sake of protecting the weak end of your Sb 3betting range in medium pots - you sacrifice the value of large bets with the strong part of your range. Particularly when villian is not 4betting TT then he actually has alot more 1 pr hands that can actually bluffcatch.
Furthermore - are you really needing to balance on the super- dry boards such as 633 anyway?
So either he does call down alot and you are missing a ton of value or he isnt and a very reasonable alternative is to barrel 2 or 3 sts with your entire range because you believe he cannot call down as much. Thus you can balance by checking thin value cause its he does not call down light and add overcards air with your strong value if you feel you cannot be exploitable on super-dry boards in steal range 3bet pots.

And I remember seeing a video of Balugas - where its ok to be exploitable and have a very narrow value range if you actually have the value range that you represent - because they can still be inelastic to your range anyway and if they arent then you can change in future. ( I hope that accurately reps what he said).

My range here is not very strong, so I can't just barrel all the time and be balanced because of the premium pairs in my range. I have a narrow value range, but I don't actually have that range since I 3bet plenty of other hands that especially on this board do not connect.

And if I think I will get floated a fair amount I think checking the turn with KK is good. He will very often valuecut himself with hands that call against my turn bet, and gives him the opportunity to stab air.

In spots like this with 55 in the SB, I thought I remember Grindcore would often just backraise the BB if he squeezed here. I think he'd do this with almost any pair he flatted here in the first place, unless the BB had a super-tight squeezing range. But I guess in order to balance this strategy, we should start flatting stronger pairs and AQ type hands too.

FWF, this probably doesn't fit in with your overall resteal strategy since you have a high 3bet % here and just 3bet all of these hands to begin with, but what do you think about calling/backraising here? If you don't like it with a 6% squeeze by BB, how high would his squeeze % have to be in order to make it a good play? Also, if you resteal 55, what do you do with 77-99 type hands?

Think restealing with all those pairs is totally fine, but not against this villain. You probably need a 9% squeeze percentage or something like that.

Dont you think a larger value bet with top pair here on the river would look more like a bluff so youre more likely to get called down thin,and also reduce the risk of being check raised bluffed,a bigger value bet could also be interpreted as stronger reducing the risk of the check raise bluff further,what do you think?

Don't really think so, unless you bet really big but you will still be vurnerable against a bluff simply because you are basically never strong in this spot. And the bigger the bet, the more you lose when you get bluffed, and the harder it is for villain to bluff catch. It might look a bit more polarizing, but he will get worse pot odds to make the call.

Hey guys, just wanted everyone to know I'm currently traveling for Thanksgiving and don't have fast enough internet to watch this video and click on time stamps, so I'll be getting to all your questions on Tuesday. My apologies for the delay

Time Link to 00:38:32

I think bet/calling here is a mistake. AA no spade is toward the bottom of your value range and you have basically 0% equity vs his value range.

I really don't see why a flush or set is a small portion of his range, and I also don't really see why you expect KxQs to check/shove this turn when he has to figure he's rarely ahead of your calling range. I think most regs are c/cing this turn with KxQs, happy to see a river with what may be the best hand, and if not, likely has outs to improve.

Maybe vs a fish bet/call and hope for the best, but if he's a reg this seems really optimistic.

Bet/folding > Bet/calling

I would prefer shoving above clicking it back since you should have decent equity a lot vs a calling range, but don't know how FWF sees this. Think shoving AK would be a lot better than AT though for all the times villain has TT-QQ.

Pretty much agree with Hielko here

Great series so far, really get alot from the foxwoodfiend sweating good regs videos. Got questions on a couple of hands:

A10 facing minreraise on 248 - I feel clicking back these days almost turns our hand face up here, are you really gonna click back sets, 2pairs and overpairs in this spot.

why not? especially given what you say here:

I'd expect to get shoved on alot with air and kinda like clicking back to induce this when I flop big but know villain prob has nothing to pay me off with but a levelling shove.

55 in SB - Will you not be putting yourself in alot of tough spots later on 3betting this as the BTN is so likely to call?

I don't think the button calls as often as you think and would 3bet 55 vs most buttons

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I agree with everything but don't really get the Baluga quote

I get the reasoning of flatting here a 4bet, when i assume a high Bluff4betrange in this spot.
B/c I am absolutely not used to it , it seems anyway sick to me.
So,
What hands you would in general be inclined to flat here (instead of folding or jamming)?
KQs, AJs, ATs, KJs, , I guess.
AQ, I guess is a too nice 3bet/5bet-jam-hand in such a spot?
What about AJo, KQo...?
What about balancing in this spot?
And what about your flopplan - I guess, you would C/Jam in a high freq. with any BackdoorEQ and not to play only fit or fold?

You're pretty much right on, but AJ and ATs I would jam (and AQo as well). Sometimes people try owning you with AJ which makes jamming KQ instead of seeing a flop with it somewhat bad

In spots like this with 55 in the SB, I thought I remember Grindcore would often just backraise the BB if he squeezed here. I think he'd do this with almost any pair he flatted here in the first place, unless the BB had a super-tight squeezing range. But I guess in order to balance this strategy, we should start flatting stronger pairs and AQ type hands too.

FWF, this probably doesn't fit in with your overall resteal strategy since you have a high 3bet % here and just 3bet all of these hands to begin with, but what do you think about calling/backraising here? If you don't like it with a 6% squeeze by BB, how high would his squeeze % have to be in order to make it a good play? Also, if you resteal 55, what do you do with 77-99 type hands?

I love flatting pairs to backjam them (and AJ and AQ as well) against aggro squeezers. I'd say something like 8% or higher squeeze. But the weaker your pair the worse it is to flat to backjam just because it's worse for you to see the flop if your BB doesn't squeeze

My range here is not very strong, so I can't just barrel all the time and be balanced because of the premium pairs in my range. I have a narrow value range, but I don't actually have that range since I 3bet plenty of other hands that especially on this board do not connect.

And if I think I will get floated a fair amount I think checking the turn with KK is good. He will very often valuecut himself with hands that call against my turn bet, and gives him the opportunity to stab air.

Sure you're not bluffing with much here you should go for less thin value, but KK is overdoing it. If you have a narrow bluffing range you can still value bet the monster end of your range, this isn't a spot where you have no bluffs whatsoever and thus can't go for value

I think bet/calling here is a mistake. AA no spade is toward the bottom of your value range and you have basically 0% equity vs his value range.

I really don't see why a flush or set is a small portion of his range, and I also don't really see why you expect KxQs to check/shove this turn when he has to figure he's rarely ahead of your calling range. I think most regs are c/cing this turn with KxQs, happy to see a river with what may be the best hand, and if not, likely has outs to improve.

Maybe vs a fish bet/call and hope for the best, but if he's a reg this seems really optimistic.

Bet/folding > Bet/calling

I actually agree with this and think we made a mistake. My standard is normally to bet/fold here

Time Link to 00:11:08

isn't this 4bet size too small, given that we are 150BB deep?
I assume it's still a pretty standard 4bet and get it in, but shouldn't we make it like 122$ or something like that?

In the 88 hand, would it be disasterous to raise there?
The guy behind calling would probably go away, the first guy would maybe be really unsure, because there's another guy with a decision after him.