Ulkis
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I'm into 31 minutes and so far PS is the only one who has made money on this.
I hope we stack this dude good soon...
We're 1 step ahead of this bozo so far but no real opportunity yet...
edit: into 41 minutes now, what is this shiat, we are getting housed....
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kondor101
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ChrisFinch
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Tonto
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Props to your opp cause it seems like we played directly into his hands. It seems that SO many players nowadays cant play postflop for S*** so they either 3bt or 4bt pre but NEVER flat/cc or whatever. This seems to be the universal 'problem'; Preflop is easy so lets keep it there...
It seems to me that 3bt & 4bt strategies should be disregarded to a high degree when your opp is so clearly bad/readable post-flop. Does that make any sense? I would personally limp a hell of a lot more & flat a little more oop just to see a flop. I mean, you were reading him like a book postflop so why kick up the variance when our edge skyrockets once the flop comes down?
Interested to hear your thoughts...
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KRANTZ
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Props to your opp cause it seems like we played directly into his hands. It seems that SO many players nowadays cant play postflop for S*** so they either 3bt or 4bt pre but NEVER flat/cc or whatever. This seems to be the universal 'problem'; Preflop is easy so lets keep it there...
It seems to me that 3bt & 4bt strategies should be disregarded to a high degree when your opp is so clearly bad/readable post-flop. Does that make any sense? I would personally limp a hell of a lot more & flat a little more oop just to see a flop. I mean, you were reading him like a book postflop so why kick up the variance when our edge skyrockets once the flop comes down?
Interested to hear your thoughts...
Great point that I didn't even think to address. If I wasn't so concerned with trying to get deep quickly towards the end of the video this would have definitely, definitely been worth trying and was probably the optimal way to play with 100bb stacks vs this guy. Boring as hell, but optimal.
Great point.
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dispatch3d
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sucks you got kinda killed and mayyyyyyy have tilted at times.
video was still good though,
in the 26hh hand, whats the actual minimum hand you need to call there? You said "for the sake of the video" at the time. Just wondering at what point you wouldn't tack that on.
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KRANTZ
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sucks you got kinda killed and mayyyyyyy have tilted at times.
video was still good though,
in the 26hh hand, whats the actual minimum hand you need to call there? You said "for the sake of the video" at the time. Just wondering at what point you wouldn't tack that on.
Do you mean call on the river or call preflop?
Posted about 4 years ago
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neekola
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Krantz,
Just a (basic) thought about 3 betting from the BB. You made it $ 100 to go all the time, got called very rarely with him snap folding a lot, and got 4 bet from time to time, having to fold. Wouldn't it be more profitable for you to make it $ 90 or $ 85 ? You would still get a lot of folds from him, maybe get a few more calls when you have a big hand, and save a few bucks when he 4 bets you. I think you would have a best compromise doing so. What do you think ?
Neekola.
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Mendez
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I love videos like this where everything goes wrong. Makes me feel better about my own train-wreck sessions.
Best piece of advice I've heard in a while: "Buy a new toothbrush". Did Tommy Angelo teach you that?
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KRANTZ
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both I guess, and yeah the first question is unbelievably basic.
preflop - pretty much anything suited that can make a straight I guess? Like I implied, it's definitely a -EV play in a vacuum but I thought I'd try to find myself in a spot that I might be able to bluff my way out of with position. Now of course this isn't relevant when you're not defending with REALLY marginal hands like 26hh, but knowing when and how to bluff when you defend with something stronger like JThh and whiff... that can be useful.
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KRANTZ
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Krantz,
Just a (basic) thought about 3 betting from the BB. You made it $ 100 to go all the time, got called very rarely with him snap folding a lot, and got 4 bet from time to time, having to fold. Wouldn't it be more profitable for you to make it $ 90 or $ 85 ? You would still get a lot of folds from him, maybe get a few more calls when you have a big hand, and save a few bucks when he 4 bets you. I think you would have a best compromise doing so. What do you think ?
Neekola.
Another pretty damn good idea.
Posted about 4 years ago
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FuzzyPuppy
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This video really highlights a weakness in my game ... something I call "noise." When I am playing well, I eliminate the extraneous factors (the noise) and focus on the most important things to note. In this case, this villain has only 2 potential ways to win money...both of which entail Hero making a mistake. 1) He 4-bet and stacked with a strong range and 2) He played his draws NUMEROUS times extremely passively.
Seeing a player the caliber of Krantz get distracted by this and shoving PF 1 or 2 times too many and playing his 4 on the 884 flop to a check-raise is unfortunate, but it does illustrate that even the best players occasionally do not focus on the most important facts. It should help me not berate myself as hard as I normally do when I do something similar.
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