Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by danzasmack (Mid Stakes)

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lol nice

remember the railbords series is over?
thought it was coming up new one today

bing!

Totally disagree about you guys saying guy cant value bet a Jack on the 10/10 hand.

not intending this as an insult, but Danza's voice and speaking style reminds me of Rainman =)

<<< Chomping at the bit to watch this at work!

lmaoooooooooooo

Nice vid guys. You say that vs a player that folds almost always vs your 4bet you dont want to have a value 4betting range. I feel this is the case also with 3bets. A guy that plays 30/26 and folds 80%vs3bet opens on the BTN and you have AJ KJ KQ QJ... in the BB. Should i be implementing the same logic here?

BING!

wow danzasmack, quit poker aaaand..

start rapping!

impressive doubletime

Haha the so hilarious with the phone comment

Couple of questions about not cbetting the K56 board.

1) Is that because it's deep?
2) I assume you would then c/c the flop, so won't you put yourself in tough spots vs aggressive opponents?
3) Exactly what part of this board makes it bad to cbet, cause it looks to me that if you don't cbet this, then you're not cbetting a lot of boards.

just a quick one: is this 6max or Hu?

Tag says 6max but the stats and the 2 seats kind of make be think its HU

is krantz wearing the chili pepper suit in the intro? (which was hilarious btw)

just a quick one: is this 6max or Hu?

Tag says 6max but the stats and the 2 seats kind of make be think its HU

Yeah it's HU.

Nice vid guys. You say that vs a player that folds almost always vs your 4bet you dont want to have a value 4betting range. I feel this is the case also with 3bets. A guy that plays 30/26 and folds 80%vs3bet opens on the BTN and you have AJ KJ KQ QJ... in the BB. Should i be implementing the same logic here?

3-bet your junk and just call your bigger hands ya

is krantz wearing the chili pepper suit in the intro? (which was hilarious btw)

yup yuppp

Maybee you should take a break from vids for a while Jay? I dont know whats going on in your life etc atm so I´m gonna try not to sound to judgemental, but seriously, try to atleast sound like you give a shit while recording dude.

Solid vi apart from that as always (and you know I friggin adore you (big big mancrush) so dont take it the wrong way)).

Sadly i have to agree with vadskajagha, although i couldn't have any more respect or any much of a mancrush on you Krantz, you do come of like you don't really give a shit in this video, but i guess it doesn't matter because the video is great nonetheless.

quite some "juicy" content..

bing, spike... I like slam the most. "I slammed a 9."

FFS... I got tilted by the video-intro. Epic

Yeah KRANTZ sounded a little bit 'pissed off' with some of DanzaSmack's questions. Don't deny it KRANTZ you did.

Some constructive criticism for you... Great video! But I think it could have been better. Just seemed like there was a lot of fluff/unrelated chat going on and you guys coulda got a few more hands in. And, "bing" kinda seems, ummm, gotta be pc here, weak.

00:51

"Not agaaaain..."

01:21

"I don't know straight flushes it's pretty looking..."

03:28

"We did a video together?"

He doesn't even remember if he did a video with Danza. How embarrasing for him.

19:50 "He doesn't have a jack cos he would have bet a king on the turn"

He sounds sooo annoyed at something.

Bingo, bango, bongo!

It was a good video and I liked the format (two commentators with preplayed hands and a thematic focus).

I do agree that Krantz sounded unfocused at parts and failed to go in-depth in a couple spots. With a format like this you really have the time to expand on the hypotheticals and discuss the alternative plays you could make if some of the variables were different.

So it was watchable and there was some good strategic content, but I think it's obvious it could have been better.

Krantz sounds high and out of it but Danzasmack keeps it movin pretty good. Reminds me of a vid CR would do tryin to copy DC and falling short.

LOL the convo @ 44 mins smoke another one sir

Oh forgot to mention: Danza did an awesome job trying to involve Jay and get him to talk about interesting stuff. If it wasnt for his efforts, I just dont know man.

Krantz sounds like hes tied to a chair and forced to participate

good video . could you maybe elaborate why the k56ss board is so terrible and what other flops are terrible ?

Really liked the format, this replay hands are really good!
Just one question, 40 minutes in, what are we representing by raising? just 44 and 77 I think, dont you think it's better to float? If it's better to raise than should we be raising thigs like top pair to balance?

Ahahahahahahahaha this was pretty nice.

Spike FTW

robertkgv clearly doesn't understand my sense of humor.

i am sorry it came off like i didn't care. my cat had been missing all week and right before we recorded this video i discovered a box outside my front door. inside it was my cat's head. :-(

so you can imagine i was kind of distraught and i'm sorry that came across to y'all in my commentary. i will do better next time.

PS will answer all questions at some pt tonight or tomorrow, in the meantime please say a prayer for my dearly departed tabby...

ps I YOU GUYS ESPECIALLY YOU VADSKAJAGHA YOU WILL LIVE TO RE

robertkgv clearly doesn't understand my sense of humor.

i am sorry it came off like i didn't care. my cat had been missing all week and right before we recorded this video i discovered a box outside my front door. inside it was my cat's head. :-(

so you can imagine i was kind of distraught and i'm sorry that came across to y'all in my commentary. i will do better next time.

PS will answer all questions at some pt tonight or tomorrow, in the meantime please say a prayer for my dearly departed tabby...

god i hope this is just a joke inspired by the recent cat-sacrificing discussions....if not

robertkgv clearly doesn't understand my sense of humor.

i am sorry it came off like i didn't care. my cat had been missing all week and right before we recorded this video i discovered a box outside my front door. inside it was my cat's head. :-(

so you can imagine i was kind of distraught and i'm sorry that came across to y'all in my commentary. i will do better next time.

PS will answer all questions at some pt tonight or tomorrow, in the meantime please say a prayer for my dearly departed tabby...

jesus wtf

oh and great video guys, really like this.

my cat had been missing all week and right before we recorded this video i discovered a box outside my front door. inside it was my cat's head. :-(

so you can imagine i was kind of distraught and i'm sorry that came across to y'all in my commentary. i will do better next time.

PS will answer all questions at some pt tonight or tomorrow, in the meantime please say a prayer for my dearly departed tabby...

omg

who's petey?

robertkgv clearly doesn't understand my sense of humor.

i am sorry it came off like i didn't care. my cat had been missing all week and right before we recorded this video i discovered a box outside my front door. inside it was my cat's head. :-(

so you can imagine i was kind of distraught and i'm sorry that came across to y'all in my commentary. i will do better next time.

PS will answer all questions at some pt tonight or tomorrow, in the meantime please say a prayer for my dearly departed tabby...

What the... That's one of the saddest thing I've read this year, even though it seems unbelievable (like, Se7en). If it's true that's awful Krantz.

On the last hand, if K6c5c is bad to cbet, what would a more ideal flop to cbet look like?

ok...the intro has joe tall...holding a stick...with a cat head on it. draw your own conclusions.

edit: i don't have a cat. joking imo.

I want to apologize if it appeared like I didn't care, I promise it is not a result of anything life threatening or a general sadness - I will do better for y'all in the future. Contrary to popular belief, I have never made videos (other than that infamous youtube one) under the influence of any fairy dust and this one was no exception.

I need to rewatch the vid tomorrow or the next day so I can answer your strat questions fully, will post when I do.

Notwithstanding the way I may sound in the video, it is full of very important strategy for people playing HU NL at these stakes, so give me the benefit of the doubt and listen close!

who's petey?

krantz and i have called each other petey for some time

also part of krantz's tone may also be due to the fact that I have been asking him questions like this non stop for a few months now lol. my bad guy.

ok...the intro has joe tall...holding a stick...with a cat head on it. draw your own conclusions.

epic ldo

epic ldo

i wish i could post a ray romano picture on our forums SO BADLY

(despite the fact that i don't even get the joke seein that guys mug pop up in every DC-2p2 thread gives me great pleasure)

If KRANTZ didn't care and the video was already so good how will it be if he gives his best?

You guys want to see whitelime when he doesn't care?

I really liked this type of format but I didn't really get the last hand. I am mainly playing HU now but I feel like I probably cbet too much in 3bet pots.

Why is it bad to cb on K56 FD? What if we have JK/QK/AK/AA/KK? I understand there are a lot of gutshots/draws which might shove on us but isn't K a good card to rep? Isn't that board much better than say T42 where we have an overpair or nothing at all?

Thanks for your time guys.

.....Contrary to popular belief, I have never made videos (other than that infamous youtube one) under the influence of any fairy dust and this one was no exception.

Youtube link any1, please?

"I don't remember making that video....must've been a Krantz robot or something"


bahahahahahaahahahahaha


(excellent vid as usual imo)

Why is the K65 flop THAT bad? its not the best but surely its worthy of a cbet. the king alone almost makes this profitable? u have backdoor clubs and u can barrel T, Q, A, J turns. ps wats result in the final hand??? and WTF does danzasmack say at 47.13???

Danza/Krantz,

At ~16:53 w/ TT, why are you so confident that this villain wouldn't vbet any spade on the end? If your hand is face up as a bluff catcher, wouldn't it be good to vbet any flush?

What was the plan w/ 76s if it was a low dry flop that didn't hit you, save a gut shot, and it was checked to you? Bet/fold? Check and bet turn if a blank hits and it's checked to you? Also, IME, you're right, when I go for an out right steal when checked to on this type of flop, I get shoved on more often then not. Also, what if you were in villain's shoes, do you like his play? How would you have played that draw? What if you were the 3 bettor w/ a broadway type on this flop? Bet flop and, obv. bet turn?

At 30:30, "spiked" FTW.

@ 41:00 w/ JT the donk/call, donk/... line is always a monster from donks, IME. I def. think you should check the turn to hit the g/s.

@47:00, AQo, would you have played AK on the river the same way or would a check call be best?

Great video, but as some of the guys mention you do come off as you didn't really care about this video. But whatever - u prolly had a bad day

-Chris

good video . could you maybe elaborate why the k56ss board is so terrible and what other flops are terrible ?

i think the intro and epilogue are a bit inside jokey for my taste, but it has content. who cares how much people care about the video. what matters is the final product, and it is a good video

just to clarify, you were planning on calling all brick rivers in the TT hand?

i think the intro and epilogue are a bit inside jokey for my taste, but it has content. who cares how much people care about the video. what matters is the final product, and it is a good video

the end was just GI Joe.

Basically on the K56 board

There are flush draws, straight draws, and only the king. This is the kind of board you're going to get called on by all pocket pairs pretty much as well as some weaker hands and gutshots. At the same time he's going to call with some more stubborn hands like draws and mediocre kings. I'm not going to be able to profitably barrel the turn because I don't know (really) enough about his hand for me to make that bet. So I'm essentially just bloating the pot OOP.

The other thing you have to consider is that he's not going to bet this flop anywhere near 100% when I check to him.

I really don't think it'd be the WORST thing in the world to c-bet here, but if your opponent is over aggro or just in general aggro I'd look for dryer boards to be c-betting on.

Danza/Krantz,

At ~16:53 w/ TT, why are you so confident that this villain wouldn't vbet any spade on the end? If your hand is face up as a bluff catcher, wouldn't it be good to vbet any flush?

What was the plan w/ 76s if it was a low dry flop that didn't hit you, save a gut shot, and it was checked to you? Bet/fold? Check and bet turn if a blank hits and it's checked to you? Also, IME, you're right, when I go for an out right steal when checked to on this type of flop, I get shoved on more often then not. Also, what if you were in villain's shoes, do you like his play? How would you have played that draw? What if you were the 3 bettor w/ a broadway type on this flop? Bet flop and, obv. bet turn?

At 30:30, "spiked" FTW.

@ 41:00 w/ JT the donk/call, donk/... line is always a monster from donks, IME. I def. think you should check the turn to hit the g/s.

@47:00, AQo, would you have played AK on the river the same way or would a check call be best?

with the TT hand I think you misunderstood. He has to VB a flush obv. Krantz and I were talking about whether or not he would jam a naked spade as a bluff - say AX, and if that call, given the size of the shove vs. the size of the pot is profitable.

Given my read on the 67s hand I would take a free one if I flopped say, 259r. I expect to be getting c/r'd here by my opponent because his c-bet is very close to 100%.

Guys take a look at the post I quoted here and my post directly before that, about the frequency of flop check/raises in reraised pots and then consider why krantz and I so favor a flop check on the K56 board. A hand I would be peeling (67s on say a 952r board) is also checking. So again, I'm not bloating the pot OOP.

I don't mind his c/r there w/the 78s.

with the JT i can't check the turn he bet the flop and then bet the turn and I raised.

For the same reasons discusses with AQ I think check/call would be best.

i think the intro and epilogue are a bit inside jokey for my taste, but it has content. who cares how much people care about the video. what matters is the final product, and it is a good video

Here's the joke so the NL guys can get it - I like to make fun of Joe. A lot.

really nice, liked it a lot!

Here's the joke so the NL guys can get it - I like to make fun of Joe. A lot.

"I can not stress this enough."

everybody loves raymond

I still completely misunderstand the AQ on K65 board.
Sure there are flush draws, pocket pairs and random crap he is going to float with. And we are not folding better or getting called by worse very often, but we do fold like 22 and we do get called by flush and straight draws that we got decent equity against. If we check to him, he bets all his air and we fold the best hand a lot of the time. I just always used to think that K high boards not coordinated boards are pure gold to cbet on and its very hard to comprehend whats going on here.

What do you do if the board was rainbow?
What do you do if it was 100bb deep?

Basically on the K56 board

There are flush draws, straight draws, and only the king. This is the kind of board you're going to get called on by all pocket pairs pretty much as well as some weaker hands and gutshots. At the same time he's going to call with some more stubborn hands like draws and mediocre kings. I'm not going to be able to profitably barrel the turn because I don't know (really) enough about his hand for me to make that bet. So I'm essentially just bloating the pot OOP.

The other thing you have to consider is that he's not going to bet this flop anywhere near 100% when I check to him.

I really don't think it'd be the WORST thing in the world to c-bet here, but if your opponent is over aggro or just in general aggro I'd look for dryer boards to be c-betting on.

do u agree that if this was K65r this is a dream flop to c-bet on? if so, a flush draw definitely makes it worse but i still dont c how it becomes, to use krantz's words, "atrocious" as though it were some massive leak. also, if u c-bet and just get called u can (as u said in the vid) also narrow down his range greatly and if he just calls a turn barrel as well then you can almost certainly triple barrel as well profitably. if hes the type of player to call 3 barrels with K9o here then yeah maybe don't turn barrel since that entails a river one a lot of the time, but a c-bet still seems called for.

as an aside, if u check u intend to c/f i assume? i think this is one of those flops where ur hand is a little too good to open c/f since u have some outs if ur c-bet fails. so if u do want to c/f this flop some of the time i think itd be better to do it with like T9s instead where u have no equity. as an anology, say in 6 max (since im a 6max player) u raise 88 and get called by the button and the flop comes TJ6 with 2 hearts. this is a pretty terrible flop for ur hand but at the same time i dont want to c/f 88 which is still the best hand a lot of the time. so in those situations id cbet the 88 and c/f my 55 or 45s. what do u think of this randomisation procedure on these flops? and do u think using that logic c-betting AQ bd clubs here but c/f'ing T9s is better than c/f'ing ur entire range that missed?

with the JT i can't check the turn he bet the flop and then bet the turn and I raised.

right. I meant just call his small turn bet looking to spike a gutter to stack him. But, then again, If I know I'm this far behind (and, I can't remember what odds he's giving you to hit), I'd just fold the turn.

Are you talking about Muckleshoot in washington?

On the T9s at 30 minute, what is your plan if you don't hit a pair facing a bet ? Fold ?
If it's the case the flop float seem spewy since this villain seem fire second barrel with a high frequencie.

Thanks for the video guys, loved the 2-man discussion, loved the intro. I don't play HU much but it was great for just thinking about hand ranges and how to play vs them.

ok, the K56cc board is easy. think about the player you are playing, then think about what kinds of hands he is defending, then think about how often he will call your bet (more often and with a wider range given stack sizes), then think about how difficult it will be to win the pot any other way than hitting a Q or A (it will be like I said in the video nearly impossible to determine exactly what this guy has, whether it's a pair, gutshot, top pair, etc.), and checking becomes clearly superior.

if we had shallower stacks, not only do you have more fold equity on the flop with a bet, you can way more easily threaten his stack with a double barrel than you can here, so you also have more fold equity with a potential turn bet. also, if this were a tighter opponent we could more profitably c-bet.

lastly, think about what not c-betting every time you reraise does for you. it lets you maintain momentum, catch bluffs, and also buys you free cards and prevents you from getting put in really tough situations OOP this deep against aggressive players who have realized you c-bet 100% (not that this guy may ever notice, but he will certainly check back hands that would call c-bets and earn you free cards).

Danza/Krantz,

At ~16:53 w/ TT, why are you so confident that this villain wouldn't vbet any spade on the end? If your hand is face up as a bluff catcher, wouldn't it be good to vbet any flush?

What was the plan w/ 76s if it was a low dry flop that didn't hit you, save a gut shot, and it was checked to you? Bet/fold? Check and bet turn if a blank hits and it's checked to you? Also, IME, you're right, when I go for an out right steal when checked to on this type of flop, I get shoved on more often then not. Also, what if you were in villain's shoes, do you like his play? How would you have played that draw? What if you were the 3 bettor w/ a broadway type on this flop? Bet flop and, obv. bet turn?

At 30:30, "spiked" FTW.

@ 41:00 w/ JT the donk/call, donk/... line is always a monster from donks, IME. I def. think you should check the turn to hit the g/s.

@47:00, AQo, would you have played AK on the river the same way or would a check call be best?

At 47 min I would have bet AK because he can call me with worse kings but check AQ because there's no value with that hand. A medium king would probably be the cutoff point where I'd start to use it as a bluff catcher.

Guys, lemme know if I skipped any of your questions or you have any others, I will be monitoring this thread over the next few days but then it's off to work hard on my Season Five series!

Excellent vid.
Lol at the nitpicking in this thread.
Excellent combination with Danza really pushing Krantz to reveal his wisdom.
I have a hard time believing Krantz wasn't high as a kite. But good content, so keep smokin'

you playin two accounts or am I just an idiot? anyways, loved the format and I learned a lot. keep it up.

I have a hard time believing Krantz wasn't high as a kite. But good content, so keep smokin'

Man, you get high in 1 youtube vid and everyone just assumes you are stoned 24/7 lol.

The 2 accounts question. I was going to make a joke about multiaccounting but I'm not.

Some hands are stars and some are FTP. You can double check my LHE vids.

Man, you get high in 1 youtube vid and everyone just assumes you are stoned 24/7 lol.

The 2 accounts question. I was going to make a joke about multiaccounting but I'm not.

Some hands are stars and some are FTP. You can double check my LHE vids.

ahhh... so I am an idiot than...

Great vid, pity that the season 5 vid wont be with both of you, as I think the discussion aspect is what makes the videos so good.

With the TT hand, do you really think that he's incapable of vbetting a jack on the turn (especially on the offsuit king "what if" situation?) It seems like a pretty easy vbet for him to make in my eyes...

Maybe I'm just a spewtard

Thanks for the k56cc answer both you guys . i think DC's customer relations is one of the sites best quality's . hats off to everyone at DC .