God is dead ?
Alright little doggies lets get back into the classroom. DOGISHEAD and Gman discuss Heads Up theory again with topics on preflop play, constructing raising and 3-bet ranges, board textures and c-betting/bluffing.
You asked for it. You got it. The DOG in all his glory along with Gman discuss theory and actual play as they move from 50NL to 5000NL Heads Up.
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God is dead ?
This is a great series, been waiting all week for it.
mp4 froze on me at around the 9:15 mark
Now I AM crying, its so good. I strangely like the theory parts better than the actual playing vids, but that may change in ep. 4. Your thoughts, analysis and most of all, way of breaking down concepts is by far the best I have ever seen. I have seen most of the vids on CR, many vids on DC and Pokersavvy, and all of the HU vids across the sites. Although MasterLJ still is better at commenting vids, and I liked his Bluff EV slides better, the way you talk about ideology and overall pictures, regarding poker and HU, this series will uppen the level of the average HU player by a mile.
Depending on how many episodes and how the rest of the series develops, this just might do for HU poker, what Harrington did for tournaments and basic NLHE.
Cant wait till next week.
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U
OK, now tell us how you really feel:-)
I love this series, episode 1 was golden and really got me thinking about my game and doing more effective range calculations, episode 2 was also really good.
The way both of you explain concepts and teach how to think in opposite of just telling you how to play is something really special.
I hope there are more theory vids coming up on 2scracked because I really think this is a far better teaching tool than sweat sessions.
(excuse my english, not my first language)
IU
Shall we maybe just log out for a minute and give you guys some time alone?
Hey guys,
Thanks a lot for the positive feedback again. Hopefully you guys are getting a lot out of this, as it is a ton of work.
Just a note, I've heard from a few people that the thing about the board textures is kind of confusing and they didn't fully understand that part. In episode 4, we will add a segment at the beginning that kind of summarizes the thing about board textures again and integrates the idea into the match, so we will try to point out different sorts of board textures and checkraising patterns from our opponent. Hopefully this will help you guys to understand exactly what we meant and how to utilize this within an actual match. So if you were confused, don't worry, next week it'll be very clear.
DOGISHEAD
I tried to calculate the fold equity for 5 bet shoving the 44 myself cause it seemed so low, but I come up with like 30% or so. Maybe you can verify in case I'm doing something wrong.
... Although MasterLJ still is better at commenting vids, and I liked his Bluff EV slides better...
maybe so, wouldn't know as I haven't seen those, but this series will teach you a ton of elegance and flair in a politically correct fashion which CR video can't teach you...;-)
I tried to calculate the fold equity for 5 bet shoving the 44 myself cause it seemed so low, but I come up with like 30% or so. Maybe you can verify in case I'm doing something wrong.
Yeah, actually you're right, I did it wrong. The actual fold equity is 29.7%, so we need him to fold 3/10 times.
Math is hard yo.
it's great! i can't wait another week i wish i could watch the whole series in one day!
I just wanted to post a comment thanking you guys for all of the hard work that has gone into this series so far.
This is exactly the type of video I have been wanting for some time now, as it really allows us an insight (and a much deeper one than I had ever expected) into how to work on poker away from the table.
This is a fantastic series.
Great series DOGISHEAD. Thank you!
Yeah, actually you're right, I did it wrong. The actual fold equity is 29.7%, so we need him to fold 3/10 times.
Math is hard yo.
Haven't watched it yet. I'm sure it's as great as the first one was.
If you need some help with FE calcs, watch this
Sugar Nut
Eff Obama - DOGISHEAD for PRES. Wait, Obama is the man n/m. I don't know whats more genius the content in general of this series or the awesomely hilarious pictures(the LOL gay prince hahaha). Would have liked to see the Bluff FE discussion right at the end hashed out in more detail in the future, loved where that was going. You gave us the cliff notes now read us a chapter or two. After 2.5 years of various Leggo/CR/DC I think I can say that DOGISHEAD illustrates his concepts as concisely, intelligently and clearly as any. Plus you a'int so boring my man. OK - preposterous slurpage over, impatiently awaiting for ep 4.
Dog and Gman. Your ideas and thoughts for the series are extremely well organized and narrated. The only disappointment I have is the idea of either of you not doing another series. Please say it isn't so!!!!!
Keep up the great work.
F
Very nice video I agree the board texture part is a little confusing. I think it would clear things up a bit if you refered to the villian as (for example) having equity check raising tendancies, instead of being an equity check raiser, because most villians will have a checkraising range that includes more then one type of check raising.
Very nice video I agree the board texture part is a little confusing. I think it would clear things up a bit if you refered to the villian as (for example) having equity check raising tendancies, instead of being an equity check raiser, because most villians will have a checkraising range that includes more then one type of check raising.
Ya I agree that makes the most sense. Basically I approached that segment of the episode from purely theoretical perspective in that virtually everyone will pull off a power, equity, and brute force c/r from time to time in real game conditions. Certain opponents are simply more likely to do one more than the other, so I wanted to offer some counterstrategies for each. But if anyone else was at all confused or wants further clarification on the board texture discussion, please feel free to post a comment and I can elaborate further. Glad to see the positive responses again!
Great vid guys. Just wanted to say that I really enjoy these theory vids.
I love u guys
Just wanted to say this was a great vid. I don't really play HU but I'm glad I watched this as it def applies to all poker. Also, the board checkraising segment wasn't confusing to me, I actually thought it was very well done and best part of the vid. I'd like to see a lot more of that kind of stuff ![]()
excellent video again guys -tytyty and greetings from germany !
I think this deserves a 6th star for using the word "vicarious".
Can someone provide a full fold equity calculation here? I get a different number:
36.6 equity means we lose $26.8 when we are called (100 * 0.366 - 100 * (1-0.366))
x = how often he folds
$38*x - 26.8*(1-x) = 0 (to find how often he needs to fold for us to be break even)
solving gives us
x = 0.41
so we're breaking even if villain folds 41% of the time. Did i get this wrong?
exactly the kind of video I joined DC for. Keep it up
you guys should finish the series off ultimate fighter style, a vid of coach for coach HU for the last epsiode
V good vid
theory vids have been awesome (and thats not to take anythin away from the liveplay one)
If u did a series exactly like this but 6max next season, I would pay double ![]()
Sick series.
This episodes just blow off my head and at some point, I had to
stop to take notes...That's usually a good signal ;-)
ty guys, can't wait till next wesneday
These theory ones beat the live play by a mile. The work yous are putting in really shows i want season 2 6max then season 3 FR and you can have a break then ![]()
Can someone provide a full fold equity calculation here?
EV = (calling frequency)*(avg. amount won when he calls) + (folding frequency)*(amount won when he folds)
Calling frequency is just 1-(folding frequency). The avg won when he calls is (equity)*(size of pot) - (bet size), and when he folds we win the dead money in the pot. So,
EV = (1 - FE)*(E*200 - 89) + FE*38
Setting EV=0 and solving for FE gives us (89-E*200)/(127-E*200), or about 29 percent.
Oh, and this is my favorite series so far and I don't even play HU. Good work guys!
your theoretical vids for me now are as important as pr1nnyraiding series at that time. thank u so much
really really great series!
and it'd be nice to see you guys playing against each other in ep.8 or maybe in bonus ep.9 (;
Great video series, especially the theory videos. I think the theory videos are the more efficient way to learn poker. Thanks for all the hard work, it definitely shows.
I totally have to agree with whats been said so far. This really is an amazing piece of poker-art!
Hey Dog,
Can you give some examples of when bet-folding would be the optimum play instead of checking for pot control.
Great series btw, I got a lot out of your duel vids, so I knew you wouldn't disappoint.
Awesome, and I don't bandy out praise that easily. It's quite amazing how rational and easy you guys make it look.
Really enjoyed the bluff calculation and has left me looking at bluffing in a different way.
Also the combination of pairs mentioned by gman was an eye opener. Roll on next week, I'm really looking forward to learning about manipulating my bet sizing. Something I have been trying out as of late.
Dogisheadisgod
lol, when dog was high he thought dogishead was an anagram of god is dead.
great vids!
Great series!
Both of you guys have amazing ability of articulating your thought process!
you guys should finish the series off ultimate fighter style, a vid of coach for coach HU for the last epsiode
yes
All posters in the poker forums should watch the "concrete analysis" part.
Awesome vid guys!
Hey vid dudes...When I downloaded the ipod version it stops playing after about 10 min.......Can anything be done about that???
Thanks,
F
I approve of this series
I am getting the fold equity of the 44 hand to be 20.8%.
I calculated as follows, please help me where I went wrong.
ALL in EV = (38+89)(0.366) - (89)(0.634) = $-10. so on average we lose 10 dollars when we make this play and he calls every time, with the range given.
To calculate fold equity, let fold equity = x,when he folds we win $38 and when he calls we lose on average $10. Equate to 0 to find the break even point.
x(38) - (1-x)(10) = 0
From the above calculation i get the fold equity equal to 0.208 or 20.8%.
Please let me know where I made my mistake.
exactly the kind of video I joined DC for. Keep it up
Same here, this dog guy is fantastic to say the least
Wow I guess I am the only one that is kind of EH about this one. I love the series so far, and I come from a math background. But I think this would have been alot better if you had actual hand examples and how they played out, especially on the bluff calculations. I so see the value in much of this, I just don't see many players calculating this on the fly, if any. The math is great, but I think it gets lost as a math class and not so much on really applying it to actual play.
Just a quick note, you can make a HUD just for HU play, if you go into HEM there are filter options for amt of players and which HUD to use. So you can use a separate HUD for HU, 6m and even FR.
Please fix iPod version. Sound dies at 37:45min. Thanks
Please fix iPod version. Sound dies at 37:45min. Thanks
I have fixed the ipod version.
-Rusty
Why do you want to 3b bluff the bottom of you're calling range vs somebody who is folding to 80% of our 3b instead of 3b bluffing the top of you're folding range?
( I know this vid if about 3 years old )
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Hi guys,
how come fold equity is 20,7%?
We are risking 100$ in order to win 27$.
So fold equity must be 27% or not???
so this means if villian folds more than 1 in appr. 4 times our push is profitible.
thank you and by the way great video man
cheers
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Man I don't understand even the basics math...
It appears to me very difficult....
CAn anybody explain?
thank you guys
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